Eddie Vedder fan to fan face value marketplace?

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  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,128
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:

    This is nuts.  Check out all the Orch seats just released as platinum, but for face ($199 plus fees) Really sucks for anyone trying to sell F2F or for those who spent big money on similar seats. 

    Wait… we’re complaining that they released really good tickets for face?
    I’m not complaining at all.  I was lucky enough to score though 10club.  Just wild that every time I log into TM there are more and more seats released that were held for platinum. Rows and rows at a time. Guess they realize that the market of people willing to pay over face for this show has diminished so they are now listing at face. 

    That being said, anyone who still needs a newark, Go to TM now and have your pick! 
    I was just referring to the “really sucks” comment. 
    Well it does suck for them! Lol 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,521
    on2legs said:

    This is nuts.  Check out all the Orch seats just released as platinum, but for face ($199 plus fees) Really sucks for anyone trying to sell F2F or for those who spent big money on similar seats. 

    Wait… we’re complaining that they released really good tickets for face?

    No, I think we're complaining that the portion of tickets they held back for platinum was insanely large, and a bunch of people bought overpriced tickets not fully understanding how many tickets were left for sale.

    I think I'm better than most, but so far for Seattle, If I'd been more patient I could be 6 rows closer and spent $120 less per ticket.   Not sure how the Seattle situation is going to change over the next few weeks.  I don't think F2F has been activate yet.. you can search for tickets but people don't seem to be able to sell them.
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,938
    Zod said:
    on2legs said:

    This is nuts.  Check out all the Orch seats just released as platinum, but for face ($199 plus fees) Really sucks for anyone trying to sell F2F or for those who spent big money on similar seats. 

    Wait… we’re complaining that they released really good tickets for face?

    No, I think we're complaining that the portion of tickets they held back for platinum was insanely large, and a bunch of people bought overpriced tickets not fully understanding how many tickets were left for sale.

    The tickets released tonight are less than 1% of the venue. 
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  • This dynamic pricing is going to be tough to figure out for future shows.  In addition to the price always changing the availability always changes.  I guess as a buyer you have to figure out how much you’re willing to pay to sit where, how long you’re willing to wait to buy before the show, and try not to look back once you decide.  
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  • This dynamic pricing is going to be tough to figure out for future shows.  In addition to the price always changing the availability always changes.  I guess as a buyer you have to figure out how much you’re willing to pay to sit where, how long you’re willing to wait to buy before the show, and try not to look back once you decide.  
    Playing mind games just to see a show. It’s messed up. 
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  • So the platinum pricing bs bit me big time. My wife knew I wanted NY 1 or 2, lost on 10C tix so she was excited to buy at 3x face for me for Christmas. I thanked her but at the same time told her I would never pay that! Low and behold TM or whomever we’re holding back more and more tix. Total bs, better tix available for far less available every single day, new ones popping constantly. That’s not dynamic pricing, it’s a monopoly.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,521
    skootboy said:
    So the platinum pricing bs bit me big time. My wife knew I wanted NY 1 or 2, lost on 10C tix so she was excited to buy at 3x face for me for Christmas. I thanked her but at the same time told her I would never pay that! Low and behold TM or whomever we’re holding back more and more tix. Total bs, better tix available for far less available every single day, new ones popping constantly. That’s not dynamic pricing, it’s a monopoly.

    That is dynamic pricing.  It goes up and down based on the demand for tickets.  There wasn't enough demand at 2x to 4x face value so now the prices have dropped.

    I agree it blows though.   I didn't quite understand just how many tickets they'd blocked out for platinum.   If I was ever tempted to buy platinum tickets again I think I've learned that patience is key.
  • KL159781KL159781 Posts: 118
    Tickets for both Chicago shows are selling for below face on Stubhub. I just looked and there are tickets as low as $90 for one night and $94 for the other. These are probably $129 tickets at this price, but unless interest picks up greatly next week, the prices are likely to drop lower.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    Patience is always key!! There are always folks needing to dump tickets last minute. Just so happens TM is one of those this time.
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  • It really looks like the Newark orchestra and grand level seating was reserved for the platinum tickets, and the Ten Club seats are in tiers 1-4.   Mine are in tier 1.  How about other members?
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,521
    I know the tickets aren't cheap, but the low demand for small venue shows is kind of crazy.   I guess covid is still having a big impact on peoples willingness to attend live music.
  • It really looks like the Newark orchestra and grand level seating was reserved for the platinum tickets, and the Ten Club seats are in tiers 1-4.   Mine are in tier 1.  How about other members?
    I grabbed tier 1 for Newark for face (standard admission price) through TM the other day.  Wasn't a platinum or face-to-face exchange sale so I was happy.
  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,128
    It really looks like the Newark orchestra and grand level seating was reserved for the platinum tickets, and the Ten Club seats are in tiers 1-4.   Mine are in tier 1.  How about other members?
    Tenclub Orch R row J for me! But friends I know are in a tier one box others in tier 2
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  • Struck out with 10c but got something pretty nice in a tier 1 box at standard price in last week’s drop.  
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  • Braz71Braz71 Posts: 101
    I have 2 tickets for night two in chi if anyone is looking, I can no long make the trip from NYC. Selling @ face value of course
  • CFO93CFO93 Posts: 166
    I have two tix for Beacon Friday night together in Loge 1. Face value, obviously.
    PM if interested.  
  • pthomnpthomn Posts: 116
    Probably a long shot but selling my platinum ticket that I paid 1090 for for $750. 

    LBalc4 Row A aisle seat. location is great. I can transfer via Ticketmaster. 

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    Cant beat the front row!!

  • JM73055JM73055 Posts: 127
    These NYC platinum prices are just absolute bananaland. I have been watching prices like a hawk for about 10 days since I bought my platinum ticket. Never again! There's one for tomorrow night's show on TM right now, 11 rows from stage in Orchestra 2, nearly the middle of the theater for $350 all in. Meanwhile good people paid $1k+ to sit in the damn balcony.  How did TM not sell a ticket in the 11th row until the day before the show?!?!  Why not sell the 11th row seat for $1500 a few weeks ago and sell the balcony seats for $300 when prices were dropping? I know there are people smarter than me behind this but I just imagine I'm going to see a lot of empty seats tomorrow night. Oh wait, maybe I'll sneak up and stand at one.
  • JM73055 said:
    These NYC platinum prices are just absolute bananaland. I have been watching prices like a hawk for about 10 days since I bought my platinum ticket. Never again! There's one for tomorrow night's show on TM right now, 11 rows from stage in Orchestra 2, nearly the middle of the theater for $350 all in. Meanwhile good people paid $1k+ to sit in the damn balcony.  How did TM not sell a ticket in the 11th row until the day before the show?!?!  Why not sell the 11th row seat for $1500 a few weeks ago and sell the balcony seats for $300 when prices were dropping? I know there are people smarter than me behind this but I just imagine I'm going to see a lot of empty seats tomorrow night. Oh wait, maybe I'll sneak up and stand at one.
    What pisses me off the most is they only trickled out the hold backs. If it’s dynamic and based on supply and demand, put the entire supply out and not hold back. That would allow people to watch the availability and weigh the price. The way they did it was release ~ a dozen at a time when they were holding more than 100 (at least it seems about that many).
  • JM73055JM73055 Posts: 127
    skootboy said:
    What pisses me off the most is they only trickled out the hold backs. If it’s dynamic and based on supply and demand, put the entire supply out and not hold back. That would allow people to watch the availability and weigh the price. The way they did it was release ~ a dozen at a time when they were holding more than 100 (at least it seems about that many).
    I would agree that I've seen at least 50 different tickets, both platinum and verified fan / normal sale. You think they have as many as 100 as hold backs?

  • JM73055 said:
    skootboy said:
    What pisses me off the most is they only trickled out the hold backs. If it’s dynamic and based on supply and demand, put the entire supply out and not hold back. That would allow people to watch the availability and weigh the price. The way they did it was release ~ a dozen at a time when they were holding more than 100 (at least it seems about that many).
    I would agree that I've seen at least 50 different tickets, both platinum and verified fan / normal sale. You think they have as many as 100 as hold backs?

    They were popping up in every orchestra section. Different tickets every day, at times there were almost 2 entire rows available.
  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,833
    At least for the Chicago shows, lots of the boxes look like they became available - guessing those are based off Auditorium Theatre donors choosing not to attend the shows. Definitely a good chunk of balcony and dress circle also becoming available in waves the past few weeks - nothing in the way back though as I’m betting those were set aside for Verified Fan.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,392
    edited February 2022
    I have two for sale for Newark.  Tier 1 center row d.  $470  Thanks! 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JM73055JM73055 Posts: 127
    skootboy said:
    They were popping up in every orchestra section. Different tickets every day, at times there were almost 2 entire rows available.
    I was talking about just during a few hours this afternoon, at least 50 different tickets in the first 15 rows

  • pthomnpthomn Posts: 116
    JM73055 said:
    These NYC platinum prices are just absolute bananaland. I have been watching prices like a hawk for about 10 days since I bought my platinum ticket. Never again! There's one for tomorrow night's show on TM right now, 11 rows from stage in Orchestra 2, nearly the middle of the theater for $350 all in. Meanwhile good people paid $1k+ to sit in the damn balcony.  How did TM not sell a ticket in the 11th row until the day before the show?!?!  Why not sell the 11th row seat for $1500 a few weeks ago and sell the balcony seats for $300 when prices were dropping? I know there are people smarter than me behind this but I just imagine I'm going to see a lot of empty seats tomorrow night. Oh wait, maybe I'll sneak up and stand at one.
    count me in as one of the idiots. expensive lesson learned. at least my 1k ticket is row A. I guess front row balcony is a positive. but its been a real bummer seeing the prices roll out at 300 and less for a seat. 

    after getting shut out of the fan club seats and TM verified, I thought for sure that was going to be my only opportunity to grab a ticket. especially for beacon theatre no less. 

    I'm getting pumped for the show, but this won't ever leave the back of my mind... 



  • MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 629
    Letting it be a lesson for all of us when the next tour is announced.

    Simply put

    don’t buy platinum.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,521
    MUZIK said:
    Letting it be a lesson for all of us when the next tour is announced.

    Simply put

    don’t buy platinum.

    or wait it out, knowing there's a shit tonne in reserve and decent tickets will probably show up for lower prices by the sale date.
  • KL159781KL159781 Posts: 118
    MUZIK said:
    Letting it be a lesson for all of us when the next tour is announced.

    Simply put

    don’t buy platinum.
    The other lesson from these Vedder tickets is don’t buy unless you are 100% going to attend.  At this moment there are 170+ tickets remaining on Stubhub for each New York and tomorrow’s show has tickets as low as $150 each. That means the seller will actually lose a little money on those. 

    For Chicago, Stubhub has 500+ tickets remaining for each show, with tickets as low as $88. The $88 pair seem to be $159 face value, which would have cost the buyer around $180 each with fees. Once Stubhub takes their fees, the seller will lose $85-90 per ticket.

    far worse are the Fan To Fan only cities, where you cannot price below face value, thus some people are likely going to lose everything they paid.
  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,465
    I live 25 minutes from NJPAC and tried to get thru 10club and verified fan and failed. I'm pricing it out now and I'm still over $500 for a pair I like (back row, at least no one behind you) with fees. Too much.

    I think the lesson, which has been true for every sporting event the past year as well, is don't buy until day of the event. If I go to NJPAC, ill probably decide last minute, and only if prices come down.

    The truth would be with Uber to and from, drinks, merch almost 1k night.
  • branscopbranscop Posts: 1,183
    JM73055 said:
    bananaland

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