Nothing new here..the issue now is who knew and covered it up..
I suggest you read the actual source article that I posted.
As far as who covered it up, they are called the Chinese. You should boycott all of your Chinese made products.
They don't think it came from natural means from an animal.
It will come out eventually the transmission came from. Even Jon Stewart thinks it came from the lab and he's not a conspiracy nut.
It very well may have come from the lab. But I don't give credit to wild ass guesses without grounding, even if it turns out to be right later. Because the other 10 things you guessed about random other things were wrong. I'll wait until the US gov't comes out with its official consensus. This was one agency and others have different conclusions.
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I was supposed to have Colon surgery this Thursday as part of pre-testing I had to get a COVID test yesterday! Well last night I got the email that I had tested positive so now I had to reschedule my surgery for March 16th! This blows I haven’t had any really bad symptoms at all, I’m tripled vaccinated and I had tested positive for back in late September and I have to quarantine for 5 days no work ughh
Well the first two vaccines are way gone by now, so it's really more accurate to say that you are boosted. But either way, don't be frustrated. The good news is that you don't have symptoms. That's great news.
No I know that I’m just pissed about moving my surgery back two weeks! I had already set up the scrub tech and circulating nurse and anesthesia team, that’s one of the perks of working for in a hospital/operating dept I know everyone involved have known the surgeon for 20 years
Good thoughts and best wishes going out for you, Jose. Good to know your symptoms are not bad and hoping your surgery goes well when they are able to get it. Keep us posted and take good care!
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Nothing new here..the issue now is who knew and covered it up..
I suggest you read the actual source article that I posted.
As far as who covered it up, they are called the Chinese. You should boycott all of your Chinese made products.
They don't think it came from natural means from an animal.
It will come out eventually the transmission came from. Even Jon Stewart thinks it came from the lab and he's not a conspiracy nut.
It very well may have come from the lab. But I don't give credit to wild ass guesses without grounding, even if it turns out to be right later. Because the other 10 things you guessed about random other things were wrong. I'll wait until the US gov't comes out with its official consensus. This was one agency and others have different conclusions.
I'm looking forward to the Contagion type findings eventually. I had thought it would take 5 years or so to come up with patient zero because of Chinas lack of help.
Nothing new here..the issue now is who knew and covered it up..
I suggest you read the actual source article that I posted.
As far as who covered it up, they are called the Chinese. You should boycott all of your Chinese made products.
They don't think it came from natural means from an animal.
It will come out eventually the transmission came from. Even Jon Stewart thinks it came from the lab and he's not a conspiracy nut.
It very well may have come from the lab. But I don't give credit to wild ass guesses without grounding, even if it turns out to be right later. Because the other 10 things you guessed about random other things were wrong. I'll wait until the US gov't comes out with its official consensus. This was one agency and others have different conclusions.
I'm looking forward to the Contagion type findings eventually. I had thought it would take 5 years or so to come up with patient zero because of Chinas lack of help.
It will be interesting to know.
it will be a lot of fun, however, to find out who knew..
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Also some people: Government said it was a lab leak. I knew it!
Some people: The Chinese and Joe Biden tried to kill us with the deadly China virus! Same people: It's no worse than a cold!
Also, it's a hoax, and masks don't work but Ivermectin does and the vaccines are worse than the fake virus itself that definitely doesn't exist.
"It will be a lot of fun to find out who knew" all of these things that are somehow impossibly true.
I don't trust drug companies. So take this drug that was made for a totally different reason. You can rely on this one, but not that one.
I had a friend complaining about the boosters ask me "how much of this shit are we going to put into our bodies without knowing what it does?", and knowing how much he drinks and that he still smokes cigarettes, I kindly asked him if he thought it could be any worse for him than those things he consumes on a regular basis.
Also some people: Government said it was a lab leak. I knew it!
Some people: The Chinese and Joe Biden tried to kill us with the deadly China virus! Same people: It's no worse than a cold!
Also, it's a hoax, and masks don't work but Ivermectin does and the vaccines are worse than the fake virus itself that definitely doesn't exist.
"It will be a lot of fun to find out who knew" all of these things that are somehow impossibly true.
Don't forget hydroxychloroquine and bleach.
I am interested to find out how and why it came about though.
The hydroxychloroquine thing was also weird. This whole pandemic has been so f'ed up.
I too am interested to find out the origins,
Like many others, I was skeptical about the lab leak theory early on (I have this thing when people like trump push narratives; I'm inclined to think the opposite of what they're saying is probably the case... weird, I know) I've come around to realizing it's possible. Some of our government thinks it's the case, others don't... it's still inconclusive. I was wrong to not entertain the possibility, but I'm still not convinced either way.
With all that being said, I am also curious what will change if it is determined to have come from a lab. A lot of people will get to say "I told you so", and responsible nations / governments will look at ways they can prevent this from happening again... but less responsible countries and governments won't.
& unfortunately, there's a good chance we probably never will know, because you know... China.
I really suggest you read the WSJ article I posted. It's been known for months that the FBI was one of the agencies that concluded that it was a lab leak. This isn't new. By contrast, the CIA believes it was natural. So the US agencies are split and there is no final conclusion. There may never be unless China comes forth and is honest.
Also some people: Government said it was a lab leak. I knew it!
Some people: The Chinese and Joe Biden tried to kill us with the deadly China virus! Same people: It's no worse than a cold!
Also, it's a hoax, and masks don't work but Ivermectin does and the vaccines are worse than the fake virus itself that definitely doesn't exist.
"It will be a lot of fun to find out who knew" all of these things that are somehow impossibly true.
Don't forget hydroxychloroquine and bleach.
I am interested to find out how and why it came about though.
The hydroxychloroquine thing was also weird. This whole pandemic has been so f'ed up.
I too am interested to find out the origins,
Like many others, I was skeptical about the lab leak theory early on (I have this thing when people like trump push narratives; I'm inclined to think the opposite of what they're saying is probably the case... weird, I know) I've come around to realizing it's possible. Some of our government thinks it's the case, others don't... it's still inconclusive. I was wrong to not entertain the possibility, but I'm still not convinced either way.
With all that being said, I am also curious what will change if it is determined to have come from a lab. A lot of people will get to say "I told you so", and responsible nations / governments will look at ways they can prevent this from happening again... but less responsible countries and governments won't.
& unfortunately, there's a good chance we probably never will know, because you know... China.
I remember China sending someone off to the death penalty for shipping out all that tainted dogfood. You think the person(s) that are responsible for this are alive still to even tell the story? Absolute speculation on my part but like you said, China, lol.
It would be beneficial to the whole world on knowing if it did come from a lab. We have ol' Harvard mutating it as we speak so it is a good thing to learn how stuff got out.
I do think both ideas from the FBI and CIA are plausible. Maybe it came from natural causes and was brought into the lab to study it? Pure speculation by me.
This is just something that was so big, globally that the truth is owed to the world and a shame that we will get only a "based on" study.
I really suggest you read the WSJ article I posted. It's been known for months that the FBI was one of the agencies that concluded that it was a lab leak. This isn't new. By contrast, the CIA believes it was natural. So the US agencies are split and there is no final conclusion. There may never be unless China comes forth and is honest.
I think our friend here is more concerned w/ confirming a predetermined conclusion* than they are in trying to better understand what happened. *What that conclusion is is anyone's guess.
Also some people: Government said it was a lab leak. I knew it!
Some people: The Chinese and Joe Biden tried to kill us with the deadly China virus! Same people: It's no worse than a cold!
Also, it's a hoax, and masks don't work but Ivermectin does and the vaccines are worse than the fake virus itself that definitely doesn't exist.
"It will be a lot of fun to find out who knew" all of these things that are somehow impossibly true.
Don't forget hydroxychloroquine and bleach.
I am interested to find out how and why it came about though.
The hydroxychloroquine thing was also weird. This whole pandemic has been so f'ed up.
I too am interested to find out the origins,
Like many others, I was skeptical about the lab leak theory early on (I have this thing when people like trump push narratives; I'm inclined to think the opposite of what they're saying is probably the case... weird, I know) I've come around to realizing it's possible. Some of our government thinks it's the case, others don't... it's still inconclusive. I was wrong to not entertain the possibility, but I'm still not convinced either way.
With all that being said, I am also curious what will change if it is determined to have come from a lab. A lot of people will get to say "I told you so", and responsible nations / governments will look at ways they can prevent this from happening again... but less responsible countries and governments won't.
& unfortunately, there's a good chance we probably never will know, because you know... China.
I remember China sending someone off to the death penalty for shipping out all that tainted dogfood. You think the person(s) that are responsible for this are alive still to even tell the story? Absolute speculation on my part but like you said, China, lol.
It would be beneficial to the whole world on knowing if it did come from a lab. We have ol' Harvard mutating it as we speak so it is a good thing to learn how stuff got out.
I do think both ideas from the FBI and CIA are plausible. Maybe it came from natural causes and was brought into the lab to study it? Pure speculation by me.
This is just something that was so big, globally that the truth is owed to the world and a shame that we will get only a "based on" study.
I do agree that knowing how it happened would be hugely beneficial for the future... I'm certainly not convinced that's why people like Paul Gosar are hell bent on finding out though.
What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right.
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It will come out eventually the transmission came from. Even Jon Stewart thinks it came from the lab and he's not a conspiracy nut.
Good thoughts and best wishes going out for you, Jose. Good to know your symptoms are not bad and hoping your surgery goes well when they are able to get it. Keep us posted and take good care!
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It will be interesting to know.
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Also some people: Government said it was a lab leak. I knew it!
Same people: It's no worse than a cold!
"It will be a lot of fun to find out who knew" all of these things that are somehow impossibly true.
He doesn't talk to me about vaccines any more.
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I am interested to find out how and why it came about though.
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-usa-china/fbi-director-says-china-lab-leak-likely-caused-covid-pandemic-idUSL1N35905Y
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
I too am interested to find out the origins,
Like many others, I was skeptical about the lab leak theory early on (I have this thing when people like trump push narratives; I'm inclined to think the opposite of what they're saying is probably the case... weird, I know)
I've come around to realizing it's possible. Some of our government thinks it's the case, others don't... it's still inconclusive. I was wrong to not entertain the possibility, but I'm still not convinced either way.
With all that being said, I am also curious what will change if it is determined to have come from a lab. A lot of people will get to say "I told you so", and responsible nations / governments will look at ways they can prevent this from happening again... but less responsible countries and governments won't.
& unfortunately, there's a good chance we probably never will know, because you know... China.
It would be beneficial to the whole world on knowing if it did come from a lab. We have ol' Harvard mutating it as we speak so it is a good thing to learn how stuff got out.
I do think both ideas from the FBI and CIA are plausible. Maybe it came from natural causes and was brought into the lab to study it? Pure speculation by me.
This is just something that was so big, globally that the truth is owed to the world and a shame that we will get only a "based on" study.
*What that conclusion is is anyone's guess.
But that's just like, my opinion, man.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-slashed-cdc-staff-inside-china-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3N5
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm
A lot of things might have been different about the last 3 years, but we'll never know for sure.
*takes dog to vet for another rabies shot.
I think it was on the news last night? I'll try and google that story, someone here must have picked that up too?