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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    I'm going to mess this one up but just saw that a Trump picked staff person admitted that his actions caused more harm than good.

    I think it was on the news last night?  I'll try and google that story, someone here must have picked that up too?
    I thought I read or heard that Birx said trump's response (or lack thereof) led to a lot of preventable deaths, but don't quote me on that. 

    She HAS been very critical of how his administration handled it, I know that much. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
    edited March 2023
    I believe it was Raskin or someone in a House hearing tell Lorena Bobert or Maggie Three Names to complain about POOTWH because in Birx’s book, she admitted that POOTWH’s policies did more harm than good and hundreds of thousands of’Muricans died as a result, and POOTWH had praised China’s handling of their response over twenty times and that Brandon wasn’t POTUS until January 2021, and that he hoped the honourable congresswoman would be as critical of the former president as she was being of Brandon. Then he yielded the remainder of his time.

    These banana repubs are just stupid and as micky said, “we’re only 2 months in.” You’re watching the destruction of democracy in wicked slow motion.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    A little perspective for anyone who thinks the vaccine was just a money maker..  

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3879823-covid-vaccine-maker-novavax-notes-substantial-doubts-about-its-future/
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,224
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,103
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    you don't know if you were right or not...you may very well be right...but you can't prove it

    If the fucking FBI can't prove it we sure as hell aren't going to rely on your opinion.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    expiration dates have been extended...


     

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    your excuses are incredible..lol..

    Mine? How about you answer the question you have ignored? how long after Davos 2020 was that statement made? Also interested to know just what it is you are suggesting here?

    I think they’re so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even know what they’re suggesting. 

    It’s a bunch of random posts w/ no coherent point behind it. 

    It’s all just nonsense. 

    Totally agree.  This thread has pretty much become  pointless.

    Well, It has been overrun by fanatical recipients of the latest booster - small minority of over vaccinated far left individuals. We need some people in the middle here that won't be chased away within 2 posts. 
    And your point is? Backed up with what, exactly?

    ”Over vaccinated far left individuals.” Do they bother you? If so, how? Like taking a knee at NFL games? Or knocking on your door and trying to turn you gay? Or making you carry a baby to term? Maybe teaching your kids CRT? What is it about “over vaccinated far left individuals?”
    Somebody mentioned that this thread is pointless. It is not, but gets a bit boring when disproportionate number of radicals post here. Seems like we're in a group therapy where most here are just patting each other on the back or jerking each other off with this infinite loop of crazy conspiracy jokes, excuses for another booster and vindication of mandates.
    The loop you’re complaining about is from what you said five words later about excuses for boosters. A good example of how anti-vaxxers make ignorant statements about the science behind vaccines, people then point this out, then the anti-vaxxer bounces over to another false claim, and so on until it makes a circle when two weeks later the claim is made again that the vaccines aren’t effective. 

    Covid vaccines aren't effective. Do you need a link, too? 


    Ineffective af.
    From the link: Covid vaccines ‘saved innumerable lives’. 
    From the link: ineffective in preventing covid transmission. You were arguing about it the other day. Note the authors. 
    Nice try but nowhere in the link that you provided, that I could find, does it state, "ineffective in preventing covid transmission." Perhaps cut and paste that which you claims says as much so we can consider it in its full context. And by "note the authors," do you mean Dr. Fauci? It'd be nice to know we're discussing the same "circle jerk."

    Hakuna Matata.
    I'll be forever grateful if you reread it and come back with copy+paste wherever it says "effective in preventive covid transmission."

    Sorry for the delay. Kids had 9 days off from school. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
     bro just don’t get the vax what’s the big deal? @23scidoo @AW124797 I’m a libtard and I didnt get the most recent booster. so what?

    Attitude like this gets us situations like East Palestine. They voted 70% for trump who eliminated a regulation for a safer train braking system that could have spared their town the toxic nightmare they will sleep in for the rest of their lives, unless they move. But yeah, it’s all the old mans fault because he’s senile or something 
    I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Trump is vaccinated and he endorsed vaccines on numerous occasions. Even at the end of last year at one of his rallies, if I remember right. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    your excuses are incredible..lol..

    Mine? How about you answer the question you have ignored? how long after Davos 2020 was that statement made? Also interested to know just what it is you are suggesting here?

    I think they’re so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even know what they’re suggesting. 

    It’s a bunch of random posts w/ no coherent point behind it. 

    It’s all just nonsense. 

    Totally agree.  This thread has pretty much become  pointless.

    Well, It has been overrun by fanatical recipients of the latest booster - small minority of over vaccinated far left individuals. We need some people in the middle here that won't be chased away within 2 posts. 
    And your point is? Backed up with what, exactly?

    ”Over vaccinated far left individuals.” Do they bother you? If so, how? Like taking a knee at NFL games? Or knocking on your door and trying to turn you gay? Or making you carry a baby to term? Maybe teaching your kids CRT? What is it about “over vaccinated far left individuals?”
    Somebody mentioned that this thread is pointless. It is not, but gets a bit boring when disproportionate number of radicals post here. Seems like we're in a group therapy where most here are just patting each other on the back or jerking each other off with this infinite loop of crazy conspiracy jokes, excuses for another booster and vindication of mandates.
    The loop you’re complaining about is from what you said five words later about excuses for boosters. A good example of how anti-vaxxers make ignorant statements about the science behind vaccines, people then point this out, then the anti-vaxxer bounces over to another false claim, and so on until it makes a circle when two weeks later the claim is made again that the vaccines aren’t effective. 

    Covid vaccines aren't effective. Do you need a link, too? 


    Ineffective af.
    From the link: Covid vaccines ‘saved innumerable lives’. 
    From the link: ineffective in preventing covid transmission. You were arguing about it the other day. Note the authors. 
    Nice try but nowhere in the link that you provided, that I could find, does it state, "ineffective in preventing covid transmission." Perhaps cut and paste that which you claims says as much so we can consider it in its full context. And by "note the authors," do you mean Dr. Fauci? It'd be nice to know we're discussing the same "circle jerk."

    Hakuna Matata.
    I'll be forever grateful if you reread it and come back with copy+paste wherever it says "effective in preventive covid transmission."

    Sorry for the delay. Kids had 9 days off from school. 
    You made the claim. Copy and paste it.
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    your excuses are incredible..lol..

    Mine? How about you answer the question you have ignored? how long after Davos 2020 was that statement made? Also interested to know just what it is you are suggesting here?

    I think they’re so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even know what they’re suggesting. 

    It’s a bunch of random posts w/ no coherent point behind it. 

    It’s all just nonsense. 

    Totally agree.  This thread has pretty much become  pointless.

    Well, It has been overrun by fanatical recipients of the latest booster - small minority of over vaccinated far left individuals. We need some people in the middle here that won't be chased away within 2 posts. 
    And your point is? Backed up with what, exactly?

    ”Over vaccinated far left individuals.” Do they bother you? If so, how? Like taking a knee at NFL games? Or knocking on your door and trying to turn you gay? Or making you carry a baby to term? Maybe teaching your kids CRT? What is it about “over vaccinated far left individuals?”
    Somebody mentioned that this thread is pointless. It is not, but gets a bit boring when disproportionate number of radicals post here. Seems like we're in a group therapy where most here are just patting each other on the back or jerking each other off with this infinite loop of crazy conspiracy jokes, excuses for another booster and vindication of mandates.
    The loop you’re complaining about is from what you said five words later about excuses for boosters. A good example of how anti-vaxxers make ignorant statements about the science behind vaccines, people then point this out, then the anti-vaxxer bounces over to another false claim, and so on until it makes a circle when two weeks later the claim is made again that the vaccines aren’t effective. 

    Covid vaccines aren't effective. Do you need a link, too? 


    Ineffective af.
    From the link: Covid vaccines ‘saved innumerable lives’. 
    From the link: ineffective in preventing covid transmission. You were arguing about it the other day. Note the authors. 
    Nice try but nowhere in the link that you provided, that I could find, does it state, "ineffective in preventing covid transmission." Perhaps cut and paste that which you claims says as much so we can consider it in its full context. And by "note the authors," do you mean Dr. Fauci? It'd be nice to know we're discussing the same "circle jerk."

    Hakuna Matata.
    I'll be forever grateful if you reread it and come back with copy+paste wherever it says "effective in preventive covid transmission."

    Sorry for the delay. Kids had 9 days off from school. 
    You made the claim. Copy and paste it.
    It's a proper study to replace ineffective vaccines. It's in the title. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
    Left always mocked and ridiculed this theory. Labeled it racist, too. Didn't you make fun of Rand Paul recently for it? 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    AW124797 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
    Left always mocked and ridiculed this theory. Labeled it racist, too. Didn't you make fun of Rand Paul recently for it? 
    Being ridiculed doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. And I pointed out the Rand Paul was trying to say something was established fact that’s still undecided. I made fun of people who cite intelligence agencies and politicians as a trustworthy sources when they’re saying something they want to hear, when for four+ years I heard they were corrupt and untrustworthy because they were investigating Trump. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    AW124797 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
    Left always mocked and ridiculed this theory. Labeled it racist, too. Didn't you make fun of Rand Paul recently for it? 
    Being ridiculed doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. And I pointed out the Rand Paul was trying to say something was established fact that’s still undecided. I made fun of people who cite intelligence agencies and politicians as a trustworthy sources when they’re saying something they want to hear, when for four+ years I heard they were corrupt and untrustworthy because they were investigating Trump. 
    It was always a conspiracy according to Dr Fauci aka Science and this article...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2023/02/26/timeline-how-the-covid-lab-leak-origin-story-went-from-conspiracy-theory-to-government-debate/
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    edited March 2023
    lab leak? investigate and correct breakdown

    wet market? investigate and come up with enough and better safety measures.

    EITHER way, this is still a thing.....


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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
    Left always mocked and ridiculed this theory. Labeled it racist, too. Didn't you make fun of Rand Paul recently for it? 
    Being ridiculed doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. And I pointed out the Rand Paul was trying to say something was established fact that’s still undecided. I made fun of people who cite intelligence agencies and politicians as a trustworthy sources when they’re saying something they want to hear, when for four+ years I heard they were corrupt and untrustworthy because they were investigating Trump. 
    It was always a conspiracy according to Dr Fauci aka Science and this article...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2023/02/26/timeline-how-the-covid-lab-leak-origin-story-went-from-conspiracy-theory-to-government-debate/
    I didn’t see Fauci refer to the lab origin theory as a conspiracy in the link. There’s a reference and link to a article published in the Lancet about a group of scientists calling that a conspiracy. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    AW124797 said:
    Yes, people are using the term conspiracy theory incorrectly. That’s gold I guess. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Yesterday was a conspiracy..today its a fact..


    What was labeled a conspiracy theory was that the lab leak was planned by a cabal of global and state leaders, working with “big pharma” and the Chinese government, designed ultimately to enslave the population. This is why people should stop proudly declaring that they used to be called a conspiracy theorist and it turned out they were right. 

    you can see things the way you want, we live in a free world, at least I do..but no matter how we do it, we were right..it was common sense..but some people still insist..
    A lab leak isn’t a conspiracy theory. 
    Left always mocked and ridiculed this theory. Labeled it racist, too. Didn't you make fun of Rand Paul recently for it? 
    Being ridiculed doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. And I pointed out the Rand Paul was trying to say something was established fact that’s still undecided. I made fun of people who cite intelligence agencies and politicians as a trustworthy sources when they’re saying something they want to hear, when for four+ years I heard they were corrupt and untrustworthy because they were investigating Trump. 
    It was always a conspiracy according to Dr Fauci aka Science and this article...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2023/02/26/timeline-how-the-covid-lab-leak-origin-story-went-from-conspiracy-theory-to-government-debate/
    I didn’t see Fauci refer to the lab origin theory as a conspiracy in the link. There’s a reference and link to an article published in the Lancet about a group of scientists calling that a conspiracy.  
    I didn’t see it either. I saw the part about trump pushing a lot of misinformation along with the lab leak theory, but I missed where Fauci referred to it as a conspiracy. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    AW124797 said:
    Yes, people are using the term conspiracy theory incorrectly. That’s gold I guess. 
    Did you even read it? Their "overwhelming evidence" is gold. That's what Fauci used as evidence.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-throws-cold-water-conspiracy-theory-coronavirus-escaped-chinese-lab-2020-4

    All liberals labeled it as conspiracy besides you. Congratulations. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
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    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    Yes, people are using the term conspiracy theory incorrectly. That’s gold I guess. 
    Did you even read it? Their "overwhelming evidence" is gold. That's what Fauci used as evidence.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-throws-cold-water-conspiracy-theory-coronavirus-escaped-chinese-lab-2020-4

    All liberals labeled it as conspiracy besides you. Congratulations. 
    Do you have a link to the survey data showing all the liberals except me labeled the lab leak a conspiracy theory? 🙂
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    The victimhood is never ending. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,917
    The victimhood is never ending. 
    Both sides.   Everyone is playing the victim right now.  Loved the  South Park episode on the royals.

    Victim.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    The victimhood is never ending. 
    Both sides.   Everyone is playing the victim right now.  Loved the  South Park episode on the royals.

    Victim.
    Can’t relate, it’s been a long long time since I watched South Park. 

    I’m very unsurprised to hear they’re also “both sides” guys though. That tracks. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,917
    The victimhood is never ending. 
    Both sides.   Everyone is playing the victim right now.  Loved the  South Park episode on the royals.

    Victim.
    Can’t relate, it’s been a long long time since I watched South Park. 

    I’m very unsurprised to hear they’re also “both sides” guys though. That tracks. 
    There is a company in the episode that is there to help change the image of people.   One of the character traits of every person is “victim”.


  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 667
    AW124797 said:
    AW124797 said:
    Yes, people are using the term conspiracy theory incorrectly. That’s gold I guess. 
    Did you even read it? Their "overwhelming evidence" is gold. That's what Fauci used as evidence.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-throws-cold-water-conspiracy-theory-coronavirus-escaped-chinese-lab-2020-4

    All liberals labeled it as conspiracy besides you. Congratulations. 
    Do you have a link to the survey data showing all the liberals except me labeled the lab leak a conspiracy theory? 🙂
    Well, I'm amazed how easily and quickly they can come up with some bullshit peer reviewed study to justify whatever they want to achieve. They had red flags and conflict of interest (Peter Daszak) all over this. 


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