Don’t call Silk a conspiracy theorist, she saw it with her own eyes and thinks there should definitely be an investigation into why this overweight unvaccinated woman died at such a young age and we should start by looking at the vaccinated people around her.
My fucking goodness, the vaccine fear mongering is completely bonkers.
These two were too extreme for Fox btw, fucking Fox fired them for spreading COVID misinformation. That’s remarkable.
Don’t call Silk a conspiracy theorist, she saw it with her own eyes and thinks there should definitely be an investigation into why this overweight unvaccinated woman died at such a young age and we should start by looking at the vaccinated people around her.
My fucking goodness, the vaccine fear mongering is completely bonkers.
These two were too extreme for Fox btw, fucking Fox fired them for spreading COVID misinformation. That’s remarkable.
How dare you tarnish the Diamond and wrinkle the Silk! Take it back!
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
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The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
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Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
This means the vaccine shedding is working… the vaccine is killing more unvaccinated people than those who have been vaccinated, allowing the vaccinated to continue to shed and kill more unvaccinated.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
This means the vaccine shedding is working… the vaccine is killing more unvaccinated people than those who have been vaccinated, allowing the vaccinated to continue to shed and kill more unvaccinated.
It makes perfect sense.
The pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in killing of both present and future customers. It's a rock solid business model.
Those who are data-minded may be interested in this website. It's a massive UK dataset that slices and dices all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality and non-covid mortality in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals. Vaccinated is broken down by number of vaccines taken and timing, and mortality data is age-adjusted. You can look at mortality per month (which is a bit tedious) or "whole period", and the most recent period of study was January 2021 to May 2022. Next dataset is due February 2023.
I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
This means the vaccine shedding is working… the vaccine is killing more unvaccinated people than those who have been vaccinated, allowing the vaccinated to continue to shed and kill more unvaccinated.
It makes perfect sense.
Conspiracy theory rule no. 4, when presented with evidence that contradicts the conspiracy theory, you modify said theory to the next level crazy.
The fact that everyone dies plays right into the anti-vax conspiracies perfectly.
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
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“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I'm still not sure if boosters are needed? You get a temporary spike in antibodies with gives you maybe 50/50 immunity for a few months then wanes. In terms of getting deathly ill, your tcells remember how to combat the virus so cases shouldn't be too severe.
I guess I'm starting to lose the belief that boosters are needed.. unless you really like that 3-4 month window of extra protection. I think for people that have 2 shots or more, and have had covid, the odds of getting deathly sick from it are pretty rare (unless your older or have other medical conditions). You might not be immune but your body should remember to fight it.
Otherwise I'd think hospitalizations due to covid would be here (as less people get boosters as time goes on).
I'm still not sure if boosters are needed? You get a temporary spike in antibodies with gives you maybe 50/50 immunity for a few months then wanes. In terms of getting deathly ill, your tcells remember how to combat the virus so cases shouldn't be too severe.
I guess I'm starting to lose the belief that boosters are needed.. unless you really like that 3-4 month window of extra protection. I think for people that have 2 shots or more, and have had covid, the odds of getting deathly sick from it are pretty rare (unless your older or have other medical conditions). You might not be immune but your body should remember to fight it.
Otherwise I'd think hospitalizations due to covid would be here (as less people get boosters as time goes on).
This is where I am. If you are elderly or compromised, you should probably get it. If not, then it's just a normal health decision. I didn't plan on getting one, but I do have a heart condition plus it was simple to get while I was getting my flu shot. I do get that most years because I fucking hate getting the flu. It's 4 days of misery and the shot generally works.
I'm still not sure if boosters are needed? You get a temporary spike in antibodies with gives you maybe 50/50 immunity for a few months then wanes. In terms of getting deathly ill, your tcells remember how to combat the virus so cases shouldn't be too severe.
I guess I'm starting to lose the belief that boosters are needed.. unless you really like that 3-4 month window of extra protection. I think for people that have 2 shots or more, and have had covid, the odds of getting deathly sick from it are pretty rare (unless your older or have other medical conditions). You might not be immune but your body should remember to fight it.
Otherwise I'd think hospitalizations due to covid would be here (as less people get boosters as time goes on).
This is where I am. If you are elderly or compromised, you should probably get it. If not, then it's just a normal health decision. I didn't plan on getting one, but I do have a heart condition plus it was simple to get while I was getting my flu shot. I do get that most years because I fucking hate getting the flu. It's 4 days of misery and the shot generally works.
I dodged the flu bullet...got my shot a month or so ago (along with covid booster) and had a mild fever for 36 hours or so. I took a covid test just out of curiosity (negative) so I'm pretty sure that was the flu that I fought off easily.
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I'm still not sure if boosters are needed? You get a temporary spike in antibodies with gives you maybe 50/50 immunity for a few months then wanes. In terms of getting deathly ill, your tcells remember how to combat the virus so cases shouldn't be too severe.
I guess I'm starting to lose the belief that boosters are needed.. unless you really like that 3-4 month window of extra protection. I think for people that have 2 shots or more, and have had covid, the odds of getting deathly sick from it are pretty rare (unless your older or have other medical conditions). You might not be immune but your body should remember to fight it.
Otherwise I'd think hospitalizations due to covid would be here (as less people get boosters as time goes on).
US proposes once-a-year COVID shots for most Americans
By MATTHEW PERRONE
Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials want to make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the annual flu shot.
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday proposed a simplified approach for future vaccination efforts, allowing most adults and children to get a once-a-year shot to protect against the mutating virus.
This means Americans would no longer have to keep track of how many shots they’ve received or how many months it’s been since their last booster.
The proposal comes as boosters have become a hard sell. While more than 80% of the U.S. population has had at least one vaccine dose, only 16% of those eligible have received the latest boosters authorized in August.
The FDA will ask its panel of outside vaccine experts to weigh in at a meeting Thursday. The agency is expected to take their advice into consideration while deciding future vaccine requirements for manufacturers.
In documents posted online, FDA scientists say many Americans now have “sufficient preexisting immunity” against the coronavirus because of vaccination, infection or a combination of the two. That baseline of protection should be enough to move to an annual booster against the latest strains in circulation and make COVID-19 vaccinations more like the yearly flu shot, according to the agency.
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For adults with weakened immune systems and very small children, a two-dose combination may be needed for protection. FDA scientists and vaccine companies would study vaccination, infection rates and other data to decide who should receive a single shot versus a two-dose series.
FDA will also ask its panel to vote on whether all vaccines should target the same strains. That step would be needed to make the shots interchangeable, doing away with the current complicated system of primary vaccinations and boosters.
The initial shots from Pfizer and Moderna — called the primary series — target the strain of the virus that first emerged in 2020 and quickly swept across the world. The updated boosters launched last fall were also tweaked to target omicron relatives that had been dominant.
Under FDA's proposal, the agency, independent experts and manufacturers would decide annually on which strains to target by the early summer, allowing several months to produce and launch updated shots before the fall. That’s roughly the same approach long used to select the strains for the annual flu shot.
Ultimately, FDA officials say moving to an annual schedule would make it easier to promote future vaccination campaigns, which could ultimately boost vaccination rates nationwide.
The original two-dose COVID shots have offered strong protection against severe disease and death no matter the variant, but protection against mild infection wanes. Experts continue to debate whether the latest round of boosters significantly enhanced protection, particularly for younger, healthy Americans.
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I found Table 3 most useful and interesting, as it basically looks at mortality rates (rather than just counts) for the whole period in an age-adjusted fashion.
The bottom line in this data is that the unvaccinated group has higher age-adjusted mortality rates in the study period than any vaccinated group, whether you're looking at all-cause mortality, covid-specific mortality, or non-covid mortality. The anecdotes about higher mortality in those vaccinated than those not are not supported by data.
Deaths by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics
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It's a fun data set, but I do like "data shmata".
Yeah whatever, I have a link to a youtube video of a guy talking.
It's not a hard sell if you only read posts on this Forum. Might need a new marketing strategy, but plenty of good customers here. This thread must be at 90% with the latest booster while the rest of the US is at 16% of those eligible.
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FDA suggesting just an annual shot like the flu.
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