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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597
    This one
    "Disclaimer; These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider."
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597
    Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
  • This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
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  • Dr.campbell is saying he cannot prescribe  or advice on your medical  conditions  which is right. You dont get antibiotics  from  you tube.
    The man being interviewed  is a medical  professional of many years.
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  • You make your decisions  and i will make mine. Thats really the  end of it. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
  • Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    edited January 2023
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,674
    Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
    All the odd spacing in your posts is giving me covid
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  • Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
    All the odd spacing in your posts is giving me covid
    Sorry my phone is broken it does double gaps sometimes and auto corrects out of place
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597
    Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
    Your anecdotal experience is just that. Anecdotal. It sure as shit isn't a study. 

    RE: trusting immunologists, where's the study? F off w/ the youtube link. You're ignoring the guy's disclaimer because it fits your narrative. 

    "These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider."

    Just stop already. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    edited January 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
    Sorry,  are you arguing that all immunologists are united that the vaccine is ineffective?
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    edited January 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
    Sorry,  are you arguing that all immunologists are united that the vaccine is ineffective?
    Im not saying ineffective.  Im saying it needs more  looking into as far as what the mrna does to cells. The immunologist is stating  how cells /vaccines/and mrna work in a cell. Which isnt opinion  . Its science 
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  • Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
    Your anecdotal experience is just that. Anecdotal. It sure as shit isn't a study. 

    RE: trusting immunologists, where's the study? F off w/ the youtube link. You're ignoring the guy's disclaimer because it fits your narrative. 

    "These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider."

    Just stop already. 
    Ok boss
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597
    Just  listen  to the  professional immunologist of 50 years.  How is that a bias
     Its science . Its how cells and mrna work
    Are those the sources that told you Omicron posed aero risk to children and adolescents? 

    Because that claim was nonsense. 
    No omicron has gone through our whole country and community  all my kids schools. All the parents work places and not 1 person has reported any hospitalised  thats a large group. And the kids aren't  vaccinated  here. And the  adolescent ones are hit and miss many many are not. Its just how it is from  what  is happening.  
    Your anecdotal experience is just that. Anecdotal. It sure as shit isn't a study. 

    RE: trusting immunologists, where's the study? F off w/ the youtube link. You're ignoring the guy's disclaimer because it fits your narrative. 

    "These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider."

    Just stop already. 
    Ok boss
    Watch more youtube, boss. It's clearly doing great things for you. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
    Sorry,  are you arguing that all immunologists are united that the vaccine is ineffective?
    Im not saying ineffective.  Im saying it needs more  looking into as far as what the mrna does to cells. The immunologist is stating  how cells /vaccines/and mrna work in a cell. Which isnt opinion  . Its science 
    Here's some science from the chief immunologist at Harvard.  

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/multimedia-article/were-better-off-with-mrna-vaccines/
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
    Sorry,  are you arguing that all immunologists are united that the vaccine is ineffective?
    Im not saying ineffective.  Im saying it needs more  looking into as far as what the mrna does to cells. The immunologist is stating  how cells /vaccines/and mrna work in a cell. Which isnt opinion  . Its science 
    Here's some science from the chief immunologist at Harvard.  

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/multimedia-article/were-better-off-with-mrna-vaccines/
    I agreed on cancer i see how that will  tailor for an individual and the  situation a cancer  patient  is in.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    Which other ones. Show me. Its not an opinion  how cells work 
    Sorry,  are you arguing that all immunologists are united that the vaccine is ineffective?
    Im not saying ineffective.  Im saying it needs more  looking into as far as what the mrna does to cells. The immunologist is stating  how cells /vaccines/and mrna work in a cell. Which isnt opinion  . Its science 
    Here's some science from the chief immunologist at Harvard.  

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/multimedia-article/were-better-off-with-mrna-vaccines/
    I agreed on cancer i see how that will  tailor for an individual and the  situation a cancer  patient  is in.
    Why is Australian immunologist right and Harvard one is wrong? Let's stay on point here. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    edited January 2023
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. She says we are better off with them  for the likes of cancer and tb. That could be right  fpr cancer  thats what he said too.Did you listen  to the  Australian?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
  • Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
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  • mrussel1 said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.
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    Busy day at work, but I'll drop this fake tweet here quickly. Fits perfectly. 
  • AW124797 said:
    Busy day at work, but I'll drop this fake tweet here quickly. Fits perfectly. 
    Ok Dr. Natalia. Thanks for your sacrifice. Much appreciated.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mrussel1 said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.
    You can answer my question without me watching a video.  The Harvard girl says it's safer and more effective.  Is that Australian position? If not,  how do you decide who to listen to? If it is his position,  then why aren't you pro-mRNA?
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,597

    Does Dr Natalia have a youtube channel? 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    edited January 2023
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 years has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


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