Viruses / Vaccines 2

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

tell that to the close to billion people living in slums.....

I get that also.  Have you been to Seattle or California lately?  I could bring you to a few places that are up and coming in NY too. It's not a billion people but it's a fair amount.

 we saw PJ in Oakland and had a few people from outside the US tell us that they were shocked at the number of homeless people....they couldn't believe that we allowed them to exist like that. Can't argue with that.

Having lived and or visited those places for the last 30 years or so, I too am shocked at what has happened in those areas too.

I think it's comical that people think homelessness is a local/city issue.  Some cities celebrate their lack of homelessness, but it's just because they were harassed and moved elsewhere.  No one has solved the issue at a city or state level, they just move it somewhere else.  

TN has made it illegal to “camp” on any public property or right of way, other than areas defined for such purposes, like defined campgrounds. Automatic jail time for violating it. Way to keep the down and out, down and out TN, and fill those privately run jails and prisons, I guess.

AW124797

Few weeks ago I took my wife to see Puscifer at Kings Theater in Brooklyn. Saw 2 people shooting heroine on my way there from my parked vehicle. Can't wait for Camden in September. 

Poncier

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

mrussel1

Poncier said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

Poncier said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

You might need to see a doctor after attending one...

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

Poncier said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

You might need to see a doctor after attending one...

And a dentist.  Know any reputable places in TJ?

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

tell that to the close to billion people living in slums.....

I get that also.  Have you been to Seattle or California lately?  I could bring you to a few places that are up and coming in NY too. It's not a billion people but it's a fair amount.

 we saw PJ in Oakland and had a few people from outside the US tell us that they were shocked at the number of homeless people....they couldn't believe that we allowed them to exist like that. Can't argue with that.

A lot of internationals do not understand America. We have a minimal safety net, almost no worker protections, minimal union participation, most of us are at will employees, meaning our bosses can fire us at their will, without cause.

We have almost no mental health services. Until Obama, our insurers could kick us off our healthcare at the moment we get sick, and Obamacare is only slightly better. All these factors lead to homelessness

If I ever am fortunate enough to meet folks from the real free world outside the US, I’d ask, do they really get what trumpism is about? It’s about, we are on our own. The govt is evil and cannot help you in any way, unless you are a billionaire looking for a tax cut. 

Halifax2TheMax

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

tell that to the close to billion people living in slums.....

I get that also.  Have you been to Seattle or California lately?  I could bring you to a few places that are up and coming in NY too. It's not a billion people but it's a fair amount.

 we saw PJ in Oakland and had a few people from outside the US tell us that they were shocked at the number of homeless people....they couldn't believe that we allowed them to exist like that. Can't argue with that.

A lot of internationals do not understand America. We have a minimal safety net, almost no worker protections, minimal union participation, most of us are at will employees, meaning our bosses can fire us at their will, without cause.

We have almost no mental health services. Until Obama, our insurers could kick us off our healthcare at the moment we get sick, and Obamacare is only slightly better. All these factors lead to homelessness

If I ever am fortunate enough to meet folks from the real free world outside the US, I’d ask, do they really get what trumpism is about? It’s about, we are on our own. The govt is evil and cannot help you in any way, unless you are a billionaire looking for a tax cut. 

The average CEO in ‘Murica is earning 324 times the average employee in their firm. Average CEO compensation rose 14%, while the average employee’s pay went up just over 4%. However, inflation rose an average of 7%, resulting in an average salary decline of 3% for the employee but a net gain of 7% for the CEO.

I wonder what the disparity is in Canada, EU, Japan, SK, Taiwan, Aus, NZ, etc. Nevermind the tax rates.

And some folks want people to care about gun violence, homelessness, climate change, drug addiction, hunger? Please, because nobody cares about the huge, ever widening gap between the have nots and the haves have not a clue.

g under p

Last week my doctor after a virtual exam prescribed paxlovid for covid bout 1. I'm not sure why he prescribed it when the only time had any discomfort was for three hours when it felt like someone was sitting on my chest ive had colds or cramping far worse. That med it very strong and makes one just want to sleep. Took it the first night and felt sluggish then after a couple hours it felt like I was on speed or a couple cans of Red Bull. Not sure if I want take it any more, I hardly ever get sick, I think the last time I had cold/flu may have been 7-8 years ago... I just don't like taking any medication. 

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RoleModelsinBlood31

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

Poncier said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

You might need to see a doctor after attending one...

And a dentist.  Know any reputable places in TJ?

If you’re serious, PM me.  I have dozens of employees who go
to Mexico for prescriptions and operations every year.  Many of mine spend their weekends there for one reason or another.  I can pretty much find you anything and any service you could ask for.

mrussel1

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

Poncier said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

You might need to see a doctor after attending one...

And a dentist.  Know any reputable places in TJ?

If you’re serious, PM me.  I have dozens of employees who go
to Mexico for prescriptions and operations every year.  Many of mine spend their weekends there for one reason or another.  I can pretty much find you anything and any service you could ask for.

No I'm not.  

Dozens? I assume you hire a lot of Mexican nationals.  I can't imagine going there for medical for any other reason than you're used to it. 

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TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:

While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

We're not a third world nation.  We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat.  You want third world doctors, have at it.  

India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world.  They are hardly a third world nation at that.

India is considered a developing country,  with corruption.  Depending on your source, it's second or third world. 

Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.

well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own.  I'm using common definitions.  Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there.  That's what we're talking about here.  

I get it.  It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.

Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes

China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.

I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either.  That's the point.  The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today).  And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.  

It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.

Understood about the medical advice.  I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on.  Don't hear about it anymore though.

Which border?  

The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed.  Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization.  Some have shown one less day of symptoms.  

Southern.  Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.

Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.

Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.  

Donkey show?

Duh, and a donkey show.  

Why you ask dumb questions?

You might need to see a doctor after attending one...

And a dentist.  Know any reputable places in TJ?

If you’re serious, PM me.  I have dozens of employees who go
to Mexico for prescriptions and operations every year.  Many of mine spend their weekends there for one reason or another.  I can pretty much find you anything and any service you could ask for.

No I'm not.  

Dozens? I assume you hire a lot of Mexican nationals.  I can't imagine going there for medical for any other reason than you're used to it. 

A lot of US citizens from texas go to mexico for dental and medical care to avoid the high costs here.  I haven't myself but know many people especially in the construction trades that have went to mexico for medical procedures that have nothing but good things to say.  I wouldn't be against using these services myself, but I have so far been blessed with great health and strong teeth.

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g under p said:

Last week my doctor after a virtual exam prescribed paxlovid for covid bout 1. I'm not sure why he prescribed it when the only time had any discomfort was for three hours when it felt like someone was sitting on my chest ive had colds or cramping far worse. That med it very strong and makes one just want to sleep. Took it the first night and felt sluggish then after a couple hours it felt like I was on speed or a couple cans of Red Bull. Not sure if I want take it any more, I hardly ever get sick, I think the last time I had cold/flu may have been 7-8 years ago... I just don't like taking any medication. 

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My doctor did the same thing....prescribed the paxlovid even though it is very specifically targeted to high risk patients and I am not in any way high risk, nor was I presenting anything other than body aches and a mild fever. I'm not overweight, no high blood pressure or other heart issues, no diabetes, no nothing. I didn't even bother to fill the prescription, and I was pissed the doctor on call would just throw this pill at me for absolutely no reason. I read two or three websites after our visit and saw all the potential side effects, including serious kidney damage -- no thanks, I'll pass. 

HughFreakingDillon

way too many doctors these days are just way to trigger happy with Rx's. my doc included. 

Halifax2TheMax

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses"  ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child. 

sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home. 

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Halifax2TheMax said:

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

Lordy knows I do, extensively — and have chosen not to take certain prescriptions due to various reasons. Gotta advocate for yourself!

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses"  ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child. 

sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home. 

Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.

Halifax2TheMax

hedonist said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

Lordy knows I do, extensively — and have chosen not to take certain prescriptions due to various reasons. Gotta advocate for yourself!

You are truly the only person who can be your own best champion for yourself. Unless you can't.

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.

yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses"  ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child. 

sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home. 

Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.

it's funny, the last time I had a script filled, there was a few questions I had that I thought of after I left my doctor's office, and so I asked the pharamacist. She was equally as uninterested as my doctor usually is (my wife later confirmed she's had the same experience with the same pharamacist). So I said "fuck it" and didn't use it.