Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk. Adult males are at high risk of testicular complications from mumps than male children. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
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Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.
Stop getting old, people.
Oops! Too late.
They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...
Meltdown - if you're interested in a fascinating podcast, check out Lifespan with Dr. David Sinclair. His research is on aging, and it's pretty amazing.
He feels there are techniques and technologies available or being worked on now, such that the first person to live to 150 has likely already been born. While the physical deterioration can be slowed down but not stopped, his claim is that certain parts of aging can actually be reversed.
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Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal
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Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal
False....genetics plays a big part
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The truth is nobody can tell why a baby gets cancer and not many know their genes. But we do know obesity ,high blood pressure and diabetes are largely preventable but we choose to ignore. Genetics are responsible for most things but we don't know them nd cant change them
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Are you disagreeing with keeping good health because thats is all i said from the out set?
not at all....I'm disagreeing with your statements about vaccines. And that polio doesn't affect children more than adults
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Ive had 3 vaccines.? I said we cant rely on vaccines to save us we must help ourselves also. And polio . You bought up other illneses and i said it was not to do with co morbidities. Unlike covid seems to be death rate wise.
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Nevermind Keep the best health possible. If you can dont be obese . Diabetic or have high blood pressure. I know some can't . But most can make a change to do more thats all good evening
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Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal
I think you may be talking about something different than I am taking about, which is factors that make certain people or groups of people more vulnerable to get or have a worse outcome from a disease. There are many definable factors and comorbidities that make someone more likely to develop various types of cancers, from genetic factors to lifestyle to environmental exposure, and the list goes on.
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Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal
I think you may be talking about something different than I am taking about, which is factors that make certain people or groups of people more vulnerable to get or have a worse outcome from a disease. There are many definable factors and comorbidities that make someone more likely to develop various types of cancers, from genetic factors to lifestyle to environmental exposure, and the list goes on.
Then we are saying the same thing. You said no disease. Cancer doesn't fit that statement is all i said. Babies get cancer so its not any environment or anything there
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Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also
There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.
I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal
I think you may be talking about something different than I am taking about, which is factors that make certain people or groups of people more vulnerable to get or have a worse outcome from a disease. There are many definable factors and comorbidities that make someone more likely to develop various types of cancers, from genetic factors to lifestyle to environmental exposure, and the list goes on.
Then we are saying the same thing. You said no disease. Cancer doesn't fit that statement is all i said.
In what way doesn't cancer fit that statement?
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Ive had 3 vaccines.? I said we cant rely on vaccines to save us we must help ourselves also. And polio . You bought up other illneses and i said it was not to do with co morbidities. Unlike covid seems to be death rate wise.
There’s nothing special about covid. It’s just another infectious disease.
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Ive had 3 vaccines.? I said we cant rely on vaccines to save us we must help ourselves also. And polio . You bought up other illneses and i said it was not to do with co morbidities. Unlike covid seems to be death rate wise.
There’s nothing special about covid. It’s just another infectious disease.
I don't think the Chinese lab thought that when they released it onto the world.
Cancer . How do you know who is going to have a good or bad outcome?
There are lots of prognostic factors, which depend on which type of cancer it is. Stage and grade are always important, age and sex are often important, and for different cancers the factors can include things like the extent of other organ involvement, physical conditioning, that tumour's individual response to treatment options, whether other disease conditions will limit the treatment that can be given, and the like.
But it's important to recognize that it isn't about "knowing who is going to have a good or bad outcome", because that's impossible, just like knowing the future for any aspect of life. It's about knowing how and how much these factors affect the odds.
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Cancer . How do you know who is going to have a good or bad outcome?
There are lots of prognostic factors, which depend on which type of cancer it is. Stage and grade are always important, age and sex are often important, and for different cancers the factors can include things like the extent of other organ involvement, physical conditioning, that tumour's individual response to treatment options, whether other disease conditions will limit the treatment that can be given, and the like.
But it's important to recognize that it isn't about "knowing who is going to have a good or bad outcome", because that's impossible, just like knowing the future for any aspect of life. It's about knowing how and how much these factors affect the odds.
But what i said with covid is we DO know what causes a worse out come so lets do what we can do for ourselves. Babies get cancer and die but not of covid. People can also help themselves which is being missed here. Vitamin d3 . Weight loss and sugar intake are all in our hands. Blood pressure also is in our hands.
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Cancer . How do you know who is going to have a good or bad outcome?
There are lots of prognostic factors, which depend on which type of cancer it is. Stage and grade are always important, age and sex are often important, and for different cancers the factors can include things like the extent of other organ involvement, physical conditioning, that tumour's individual response to treatment options, whether other disease conditions will limit the treatment that can be given, and the like.
But it's important to recognize that it isn't about "knowing who is going to have a good or bad outcome", because that's impossible, just like knowing the future for any aspect of life. It's about knowing how and how much these factors affect the odds.
But what i said with covid is we DO know what causes a worse out come so lets do what we can do for ourselves. Babies get cancer and die but not of covid. People can also help themselves which is being missed here. Vitamin d3 . Weight loss and sugar intake are all in our hands. Blood pressure also is in our hands.
We know some of the risk factors, sure. There are likely others we are not yet aware of. We learned this week of a gene that appears to lead to a marked increase in severe covid. Just like we know some of the factors for all of these other conditions we are talking about, but likely not all of them.
I don't think anyone is missing that some risk factors are within control, but realistically these things probably can't be changed in the immediate term. Age is the most significant risk factor, and we can't do a thing about that.
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The data in the pre-print study that everyone was discussing earlier this week that seemed to suggest that vaccination led to a worsened outcome is being reviewed and reportedly no longer shows the negative VE. Revised version not yet public. Another warning not to jump all over studies that aren't yet peer reviewed, plus of course not to trust main stream media with science reporting.
Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.
Stop getting old, people.
Oops! Too late.
They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...
Meltdown - if you're interested in a fascinating podcast, check out Lifespan with Dr. David Sinclair. His research is on aging, and it's pretty amazing.
He feels there are techniques and technologies available or being worked on now, such that the first person to live to 150 has likely already been born. While the physical deterioration can be slowed down but not stopped, his claim is that certain parts of aging can actually be reversed.
Thank you. I will check that out. It sounds interesting. I have heard that about the first person to hit 150 is already on this earth…I wonder how that persons memory will age. I have no doubt that modern medicine combined with proper nutrition, fitness and little luck we can live a long time…
I agree with lastexit. We just don’t know at this point about this virus/vaccine so why not take steps to get in better health, we do know you increase your odds if healthier…and no one is suggesting we all hit the gyms until we look like Arnold in his 20’s…just be more aware of our health…and take some personal responsibility.
I agree with lastexit. We just don’t know at this point about this virus/vaccine so why not take steps to get in better health, we do know you increase your odds if healthier…and no one is suggesting we all hit the gyms until we look like Arnold in his 20’s…just be more aware of our health…and take some personal responsibility.
Yeah, no one is really disagreeing with that.
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He feels there are techniques and technologies available or being worked on now, such that the first person to live to 150 has likely already been born. While the physical deterioration can be slowed down but not stopped, his claim is that certain parts of aging can actually be reversed.
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Keep the best health possible. If you can dont be obese . Diabetic or have high blood pressure. I know some can't . But most can make a change to do more thats all good evening
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4th day in. No more back pain or fever, just a cough now…
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I'm just poking fun at some of the downplayers here.
There are lots of prognostic factors, which depend on which type of cancer it is. Stage and grade are always important, age and sex are often important, and for different cancers the factors can include things like the extent of other organ involvement, physical conditioning, that tumour's individual response to treatment options, whether other disease conditions will limit the treatment that can be given, and the like.
But it's important to recognize that it isn't about "knowing who is going to have a good or bad outcome", because that's impossible, just like knowing the future for any aspect of life. It's about knowing how and how much these factors affect the odds.
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We know some of the risk factors, sure. There are likely others we are not yet aware of. We learned this week of a gene that appears to lead to a marked increase in severe covid. Just like we know some of the factors for all of these other conditions we are talking about, but likely not all of them.
I don't think anyone is missing that some risk factors are within control, but realistically these things probably can't be changed in the immediate term. Age is the most significant risk factor, and we can't do a thing about that.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-study-omicron-anti-vaxxers-1.6315890
I agree with lastexit. We just don’t know at this point about this virus/vaccine so why not take steps to get in better health, we do know you increase your odds if healthier…and no one is suggesting we all hit the gyms until we look like Arnold in his 20’s…just be more aware of our health…and take some personal responsibility.
Yeah, no one is really disagreeing with that.