The virus kills people not just by cardiac arrest. By many ways. Mainly lungs pneumonia . That would be excess deaths I do not think its more dangerous than the original covid. But i do think it has dangers we dont fully know with clarity yet i think is where im at.
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The virus kills people not just by cardiac arrest. By many ways. Mainly lungs pneumonia . That would be excess deaths I do not think its more dangerous than the original covid. But i do think it has dangers we dont fully know with clarity yet i think is where im at.
I guess i don't understand why you think the excess deaths can't be talked about, or why you suggested the uptick in heart attacks is related to the vaccine when that trend started before the vaccine rollout.
There have been cryptic comments made about "the truth" in the last several days, but when pressed, no one has said what this truth is.
Nothing cryptic things get removed or taken down if you speak about them. Lots of people who post on you tube or whatever have videos removed. I watch a dr. Campbell who just goes through studies and peer reviewed papers and he cannot mention anything to do with vaccine induced myocarditis or pericardyitis with out the algorithms taking it down. I dont understand why it cant be debated. Russell brand has had the same thing it gets removed. Why is all i don't understand. Let people talk about it.
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Nothing cryptic things get removed or taken down if you speak about them. Lots of people who post on you tube or whatever have videos removed. I watch a dr. Campbell who just goes through studies and peer reviewed papers and he cannot mention anything to do with vaccine induced myocarditis or pericardyitis with out the algorithms taking it down. I dont understand why it cant be debated. Russell brand has had the same thing it gets removed. Why is all i don't understand. Let people talk about it.
Are they also blaming the vaccine for the uptick in heart attacks?
It's a misleading statement to suggest the trend started with the vaccine. You get that, right?
I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
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I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
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Nothing cryptic things get removed or taken down if you speak about them. Lots of people who post on you tube or whatever have videos removed. I watch a dr. Campbell who just goes through studies and peer reviewed papers and he cannot mention anything to do with vaccine induced myocarditis or pericardyitis with out the algorithms taking it down. I dont understand why it cant be debated. Russell brand has had the same thing it gets removed. Why is all i don't understand. Let people talk about it.
Are they also blaming the vaccine for the uptick in heart attacks?
It's a misleading statement to suggest the trend started with the vaccine. You get that, right?
The trend didn't start It grew by a bigger margin. Covid causes heart issues. Also diabetes in some. Lung disease in others. But the incidence of heart problems seemed to get higher after mrna was introduced.
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yes, I know the whole video is taken down. I mean it might have been taken down not because of the larger content of the video, but something else not related to what you think it got taken down for (i wasn't referring to comments on the video; IN the video).
either way, if you have something showing what you are talking about (video, links to peer viewed studies, etc). post em.
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Nothing cryptic things get removed or taken down if you speak about them. Lots of people who post on you tube or whatever have videos removed. I watch a dr. Campbell who just goes through studies and peer reviewed papers and he cannot mention anything to do with vaccine induced myocarditis or pericardyitis with out the algorithms taking it down. I dont understand why it cant be debated. Russell brand has had the same thing it gets removed. Why is all i don't understand. Let people talk about it.
Are they also blaming the vaccine for the uptick in heart attacks?
It's a misleading statement to suggest the trend started with the vaccine. You get that, right?
The trend didn't start It grew by a bigger margin. Covid causes heart issues. Also diabetes in some. Lung disease in others. But the incidence of heart problems seemed to get higher after mrna was introduced.
It could also have been caused by the continued spread of covid in the second year of the pandemic.
I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
If I'm understanding correctly, the timeline of events as you see them, seems to be:
1) Content gets posted
2) Some sort of content filter (either a human one or an automated one) flags the content as controversial
3) The internet is scraped for facsimiles of the found content by said filtering team/algorithm
4) The source content is deleted (without discussion or debate or warning)
5) The found facsimiles are deleted or people are pressured into deleting it (without discussion or debate or warning)
6) Those who saw the content are subsequently gaslit into believing they were wrong about what they saw/read 7) The details are added to a list of things to make sure never get posted in the future
No disrespect, but I can't see how this makes sense. When something gets posted on a website, it's typically scraped by digital services automatically, and often downloaded and shared by people who find the content compelling. This is even more likely on a site like YouTube, which produces upwards of 10% of the world's internet traffic. Both of these initiatives can/do take place within minutes.
What authority do content flaggers have to compel other entities, not owned by them, to remove content (assuming the content is also not owned by them)? How are there never any 'close calls' or whistleblowers who respond negatively to the pressure campaign to close them down? The idea of a global suppression effort successfully hiding 'truths' about a highly viral and controversial topic such as CoVID-19 is virtually impossible on the internet of 2023.
What I would like to know, is where this content that people are adamant that they once saw and then disappeared, has gone. Is it there, buried under more honest and/or popular content? Was it self-deleted (and why)? Have they somehow lost their ability to find it once more given a flood of new information? Are there algorithms suddenly burying the content (meaning it's still there, but one isn't likely to encounter it)? I don't have any answers to these (yet), but I'm really grateful for you carrying on this conversation with me, lastexitlondon
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I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
If I'm understanding correctly, the timeline of events as you see them, seems to be:
1) Content gets posted
2) Some sort of content filter (either a human one or an automated one) flags the content as controversial
3) The internet is scraped for facsimiles of the found content by said filtering team/algorithm
4) The source content is deleted (without discussion or debate or warning)
5) The found facsimiles are deleted or people are pressured into deleting it (without discussion or debate or warning)
6) Those who saw the content are subsequently gaslit into believing they were wrong about what they saw/read 7) The details are added to a list of things to make sure never get posted in the future
No disrespect, but I can't see how this makes sense. When something gets posted on a website, it's typically scraped by digital services automatically, and often downloaded and shared by people who find the content compelling. This is even more likely on a site like YouTube, which produces upwards of 10% of the world's internet traffic. Both of these initiatives can/do take place within minutes.
What authority do content flaggers have to compel other entities, not owned by them, to remove content (assuming the content is also not owned by them)? How are there never any 'close calls' or whistleblowers who respond negatively to the pressure campaign to close them down? The idea of a global suppression effort successfully hiding 'truths' about a highly viral and controversial topic such as CoVID-19 is virtually impossible on the internet of 2023.
What I would like to know, is where this content that people are adamant that they once saw and then disappeared, has gone. Is it there, buried under more honest and/or popular content? Was it self-deleted (and why)? Have they somehow lost their ability to find it once more given a flood of new information? Are there algorithms suddenly burying the content (meaning it's still there, but one isn't likely to encounter it)? I don't have any answers to these (yet), but I'm really grateful for you carrying on this conversation with me, lastexitlondon
No worries. Im happy to conversate. No. videos with content that doesn't fit the guidelines get taken down. So the guidelines are set by lets say you tube as its the only social media (if it is ) that i have. They choose whats allowed.
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Its pointless because anyone who dares to question or feel for the families who lost someone to the vaccine is some kind of odd ball with misinformation. Any link or Dr thats put on here is made our to be not good enough or from somewhere thats not real. I dont know what you are told or read over there but many studies and actual numbers are starting to all say the same. If anyone dares to say wait a minute this looks odd. They must be a nutter or political. I guess time will tell. I may be a nutter. We all make our choices. I just wish with hind sight we have full information before taking and giving our kids. We were all told take it to protect others. So we did.
Be honest. Your source is a video from social media where headlines of sudden death scroll by and someone is off to the side making smug faces.
Honest. I am. I dont have any social. I do watch some you tube but just peer reviewed trials and Dr or consultant reports.lm not a modern guy
We can walk you through how to copy and paste those links in here if you’d like.
Where as everyone else here seems to be able to just conversate and be sensible you seem to be a little condescending. No need my friend. No need
I’m being a sarcastic twat because you’re avoiding backing up your claim you made earlier, and one of the norms in here, which makes the discussions much better, is that people quote and link their sources.
For example the video i posted . The dr. Couldnt say that stuff but he could post a video of a member of parliament reading peer reviewed studies to the house.
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https://youtu.be/-MSKzoI72eU This is in the house of parliament. Peer reviewed. Its on our news. Not from some quack
Some interesting stuff in there. I'm going to rewatch when I have more time as I couldn't devote 100% of my attention to it.
On it's face, it seemed to dramatically understate the effectiveness of the vaccine, but I also can't disprove that... I am interested to hear / read more about this.
Its pointless because anyone who dares to question or feel for the families who lost someone to the vaccine is some kind of odd ball with misinformation. Any link or Dr thats put on here is made our to be not good enough or from somewhere thats not real. I dont know what you are told or read over there but many studies and actual numbers are starting to all say the same. If anyone dares to say wait a minute this looks odd. They must be a nutter or political. I guess time will tell. I may be a nutter. We all make our choices. I just wish with hind sight we have full information before taking and giving our kids. We were all told take it to protect others. So we did.
Be honest. Your source is a video from social media where headlines of sudden death scroll by and someone is off to the side making smug faces.
Honest. I am. I dont have any social. I do watch some you tube but just peer reviewed trials and Dr or consultant reports.lm not a modern guy
We can walk you through how to copy and paste those links in here if you’d like.
Where as everyone else here seems to be able to just conversate and be sensible you seem to be a little condescending. No need my friend. No need
I’m being a sarcastic twat because you’re avoiding backing up your claim you made earlier, and one of the norms in here, which makes the discussions much better, is that people quote and link their sources.
That aged well . I agree you are
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https://youtu.be/-MSKzoI72eU This is in the house of parliament. Peer reviewed. Its on our news. Not from some quack
Some interesting stuff in there. I'm going to rewatch when I have more time as I couldn't devote 100% of my attention to it.
On it's face, it seemed to dramatically understate the effectiveness of the vaccine, but I also can't disprove that... I am interested to hear / read more about this.
Thanks for posting.
I do agree . Some interesting stuff i re watched it to make sure i dont get absolutely hammered . And i appreciate the conversation
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I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
Youtube is for music and learning how to play In Hiding on guitar, not for giving credibility to people who don’t support their claims. . Dr Campbell should have a web page with links to his sources.
I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
Youtube is for music and learning how to play In Hiding on guitar, not for giving credibility to people who don’t support their claims. . Dr Campbell should have a web page with links to his sources.
He does have that infact go look..He only ever reads peer reviewed studies..And this is a member of parliament not dr. Campbell in the video. And i learned in hiding. Sorry i dont have facebook or twitter. You my friend are a waste of time.
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I find it interesting that this is in his "about" section of his youtube channel:
Disclaimer; These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider.
is that only for potential liability issues?
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He is a medical teacher and always says consult your own dr as he cant prescribe or advice on your medical needs. He also has written books. And i believe the paragraph above is about his teaching videos. Liability
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He clearly states what is peer reviewed in every video and includes in the description of every video and the one i posted is not him talking. He is not relevant to the peer reviewed information being read in parliament
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I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
Youtube is for music and learning how to play In Hiding on guitar, not for giving credibility to people who don’t support their claims. . Dr Campbell should have a web page with links to his sources.
He does have that infact go look..He only ever reads peer reviewed studies..And this is a member of parliament not dr. Campbell in the video. And i learned in hiding. Sorry i dont have facebook or twitter. You my friend are a waste of time.
If your parliament is anything like our congress, being a member doesn't imply credibility, if anything it brings added scrutiny because you know... politics.
I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
Youtube is for music and learning how to play In Hiding on guitar, not for giving credibility to people who don’t support their claims. . Dr Campbell should have a web page with links to his sources.
He does have that infact go look..He only ever reads peer reviewed studies..And this is a member of parliament not dr. Campbell in the video. And i learned in hiding. Sorry i dont have facebook or twitter. You my friend are a waste of time.
It’s clear you’re enjoying the back and forth here while pretending to be a Luddite. People talking on youtube might be interesting, but I’m more into reviewing the original studies and not having a guy with an agenda interpret it for me. It’s interesting the Dr Campbell only uses youtube for his sources.
I haven't any posts taken down here. we're talking here. if there were posts taken down on youtube, I'd need to know context. Maybe there was one comment in a 30 minute video as the reason why. who knows.
The whole video are taken down. Not frim a comment. The content isnt allowed.
Youtube is for music and learning how to play In Hiding on guitar, not for giving credibility to people who don’t support their claims. . Dr Campbell should have a web page with links to his sources.
He does have that infact go look..He only ever reads peer reviewed studies..And this is a member of parliament not dr. Campbell in the video. And i learned in hiding. Sorry i dont have facebook or twitter. You my friend are a waste of time.
If your parliament is anything like our congress, being a member doesn't imply credibility, if anything it brings added scrutiny because you know... politics.
No its not. This man is reading peer reviewed studies to the house. Not hearsay or myth. Facts from medical professionals. I can't really add much more than thats what is happening and its relevant and interesting to see . I wish everyone well and good health.
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I do not think its more dangerous than the original covid. But i do think it has dangers we dont fully know with clarity yet i think is where im at.
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I guess i don't understand why you think the excess deaths can't be talked about, or why you suggested the uptick in heart attacks is related to the vaccine when that trend started before the vaccine rollout.
There have been cryptic comments made about "the truth" in the last several days, but when pressed, no one has said what this truth is.
Lots of people who post on you tube or whatever have videos removed. I watch a dr. Campbell who just goes through studies and peer reviewed papers and he cannot mention anything to do with vaccine induced myocarditis or pericardyitis with out the algorithms taking it down. I dont understand why it cant be debated. Russell brand has had the same thing it gets removed. Why is all i don't understand. Let people talk about it.
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It's a misleading statement to suggest the trend started with the vaccine. You get that, right?
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It grew by a bigger margin. Covid causes heart issues. Also diabetes in some. Lung disease in others. But the incidence of heart problems seemed to get higher after mrna was introduced.
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either way, if you have something showing what you are talking about (video, links to peer viewed studies, etc). post em.
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This is in the house of parliament. Peer reviewed. Its on our news. Not from some quack
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7) The details are added to a list of things to make sure never get posted in the future
No disrespect, but I can't see how this makes sense. When something gets posted on a website, it's typically scraped by digital services automatically, and often downloaded and shared by people who find the content compelling. This is even more likely on a site like YouTube, which produces upwards of 10% of the world's internet traffic. Both of these initiatives can/do take place within minutes.
What authority do content flaggers have to compel other entities, not owned by them, to remove content (assuming the content is also not owned by them)? How are there never any 'close calls' or whistleblowers who respond negatively to the pressure campaign to close them down? The idea of a global suppression effort successfully hiding 'truths' about a highly viral and controversial topic such as CoVID-19 is virtually impossible on the internet of 2023.
What I would like to know, is where this content that people are adamant that they once saw and then disappeared, has gone. Is it there, buried under more honest and/or popular content? Was it self-deleted (and why)? Have they somehow lost their ability to find it once more given a flood of new information? Are there algorithms suddenly burying the content (meaning it's still there, but one isn't likely to encounter it)? I don't have any answers to these (yet), but I'm really grateful for you carrying on this conversation with me, lastexitlondon
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No. videos with content that doesn't fit the guidelines get taken down. So the guidelines are set by lets say you tube as its the only social media (if it is ) that i have.
They choose whats allowed.
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On it's face, it seemed to dramatically understate the effectiveness of the vaccine, but I also can't disprove that... I am interested to hear / read more about this.
Thanks for posting.
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Disclaimer; These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider.
is that only for potential liability issues?
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He is not relevant to the peer reviewed information being read in parliament
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