Hey marcPJfan! Yes, I live in Harlingen. Do you ever drive down to the RGV any more? I've been living down here since 2003. My wife and I lived in the Austin metro area for about a decade before moving here.
You know what seems to get lost in this whole discussion? The fact that the band seems so proud of their "neutral" carbon footprint while on tour. However, one could easily argue that by effectively forcing a substantial percentage of fans to travel excessive distances to see PJ shows, their macro-level carbon footprint might actually be worse than other bands (i.e. - Stone Temple Pilots, Bush) that get around a lot more. I'm not saying -- I'm just saying.
I guess it's okay in the end. I'm just going to have to either (1) drive 1,000 miles to Dallas and back when PJ plays there, or (2) I'll have to spend $500 on two concert tickets, $800 on two plane tickets, $400 on a hotel room, and about $300 at restaurants to travel to PJ's location. I'm not really complaining -- just stating a fact. Their tours are quite short these days, and they tend to visit the same places over and over and over again. I'll always love them nonetheless.
Is there a reason you can’t drive to San Antonio, park your car, and fly to Oklahoma City for the show in May?
Pearl Jam tickets don’t cost $500 per pair unless you are paying a scalper. Doubt that will be necessary for the OKC show.
Where do you stay that you spend $400 for one night in a hotel? It seems extravagant when you are talking about their show locations costing you a lot of money.
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Hey marcPJfan! Yes, I live in Harlingen. Do you ever drive down to the RGV any more? I've been living down here since 2003. My wife and I lived in the Austin metro area for about a decade before moving here.
I don’t visit very often. Maybe once or twice a year. I love it up here too much. I do miss the food.
You know what seems to get lost in this whole discussion? The fact that the band seems so proud of their "neutral" carbon footprint while on tour. However, one could easily argue that by effectively forcing a substantial percentage of fans to travel excessive distances to see PJ shows, their macro-level carbon footprint might actually be worse than other bands (i.e. - Stone Temple Pilots, Bush) that get around a lot more. I'm not saying -- I'm just saying.
Give me a break, no one is making anyone do anything. What are they supposed to do Black Flag it around the country and hit up every town? By your logic they should just not tour.
Eddie has a new album coming out that he’d probably like to play some live shows for. He is touring the spring and summer with Pearl Jam so probably doesn’t want to do a big tour or has the time to do . He probably wants to do theaters because he is playing arenas everywhere else with PJ and it doesn’t make sense to play 1/2 full arenas when you can sell out a theater.
Yefa, a lot of us Texans are reluctant to travel to Oklahoma for anything. I figure I'll take my chances and see if they play in the second-largest state in the country instead. Also, if I'm going to travel (fly) to see the band, then I'll be staying two nights at about $200 per night, which seems reasonable. For the 2013 PJ show in Dallas I paid $530 for two tickets, and people are mentioning paying a similar amount for Eddie's upcoming mini-tour. Thank you for not criticizing my food budget though. I guess this is partially my fault for choosing to live in a remote area.
In 2018 and early 2020, I was able to drive anywhere from 350 to 500 miles roundtrip to see Stone Temple Pilots and/or Bush in concert. Those shows occurred in San Antonio or Laredo. Bush also played 30 miles from here in 2011. We've also had the likes of Aerosmith, Alice in Chains, and Kiss play nearby. I like how those bands tend to go to their fans rather than the other way around. Pearl Jam will always be my favorite though.
Sorry if I annoyed a couple of you with my hopes and comments. I'll just catch the band whenever the prevailing situation allows for it. Sometimes that's all we can do in life.
I could be wrong, but I believe that post-2003, PJ has played in San Antonio zero times, Dallas on one occasion, and Houston zero times. If so, that's a total of one show in the last 18 years in three of the ten largest cities in the country. Perhaps that puts my comments into perspective.
They also had I believe a 5 year drought in their hometown from 2013-2018. We would all like more!
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No Montreal show since 2011 and we don’t even vote Republican!
on the flip side Quebec city got in in 2016, and that's not a horrible distance away.
It's like PJ having played Pemberton in 2016, but not Vancouver since 2013. That's a long run without a Vancouver show, but Pemberton's not that far away, and it was pretty good time. It was within driving distance and in the same province
No Montreal show since 2011 and we don’t even vote Republican!
on the flip side Quebec city got in in 2016, and that's not a horrible distance away.
It's like PJ having played Pemberton in 2016, but not Vancouver since 2013. That's a long run without a Vancouver show, but Pemberton's not that far away, and it was pretty good time. It was within driving distance and in the same province
Not to mention Ottawa which is closer to Montreal than Quebec City is.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I am going to pose a possibility that could occur which I haven’t seen mentioned. It applies specifically to the LA area show but could occur in other cities.
This tour brought back memories of the Temple of the Dog tour 5 years ago, which was as limited in shows as this Vedder tour. The ticket prices were about of half of this tour and all shows quickly sold out. I’m in L.A., so I dont know how it went on the East Coast but the show here was at the Forum. As the show approached, tickets on Stubhub were getting as low as $20-30. Some of the people selling were scalpers, but obviously some were fans with extra tickets.
I personally had tickets for one of the San Francisco shows that I couldn’t make and had them listed below face on Stubhub. I got fortunate that someone I know bought them from me for face. The 2 SF shows were small venue and selling below face.
Fast forward to this Vedder tour. The San Diego show will likely be a tough ticket but the LA show is in a 6-7,000 seat venue with room for another show to be added.
Southern California may be oversaturated for Vedder right now after 5 nights of Ohana, including 2 public shows by this Earthlings band to 15,000 each. Ohana second weekend didn't sell out, resale prices were very low and Pearl Jam has 2 LA shows in May. There may very well be enough big fans here to sell out the show and possibly add a second which will add to the oversaturation.
What I am cautioning people on is if you buy for this L.A. show and are unable to attend, it may not be as easy to sell them as people think. The problem this time is your only option to sell is the fan to fan resale at only face value. If I understand correctly, unlike Stubhub, you cannot sell for under face. Due to over saturation and high ticket prices, you may not be able to get anything for your tickets if they aren’t amongst the best seats or pit.
You wasted that entire post because the mid-40s took bags don’t wanna hear it, yet it’s 100% accurate. Limiting what people can do with their $240 tickets is a joke. If you can’t go and others are selling for $100, I’d rather take that than nothing. Big joke their trying to keep the scalpers out while charging scalper prices. People who think others are gonna buy their $240 at a premium in February on a Wednesday when it’s -20 and a foot of snow on the ground are delusional.
I could be wrong, but I believe that post-2003, PJ has played in San Antonio zero times, Dallas on one occasion, and Houston zero times. If so, that's a total of one show in the last 18 years in three of the ten largest cities in the country. Perhaps that puts my comments into perspective.
We did get two stellar ACL sets at least, particularly in 2009.I live in in the Austin area and will be carpooling with some other local PJ fans most likely for the OKC show.
It’s like Ed never got over the TX and Bush association.
I think he doesn't like the push back from crowds in places like Texas when he goes on his rants. It's easier to play places that in theory align with his political views.
It’s like Ed never got over the TX and Bush association.
I think he doesn't like the push back from crowds in places like Texas when he goes on his rants. It's easier to play places that in theory align with his political views.
Pearl Jam is playing Tennessee, Missouri, and Oklahoma on the upcoming tour. How does that align with your stated theory about Texas? Those states are every bit as "red" as Texas...perhaps more so.
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If I had to rank PJ crowds by regions I would say the south has better PJ crowds than the west overall. Some of the craziest crowds I’ve seen were in TX and NOLA. Florida has had really loud crowds as well.
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6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 9/5/23 Chicago-United Center 9/7/23 Chicago-United Center 8/29/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/31/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field
Did they not think the first would sell well? Come on. Why not just release all at once. Now for those who got night one can put in for night 2 correct?
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By your logic they should just not tour.
Eddie has a new album coming out that he’d probably like to play some live shows for. He is touring the spring and summer with Pearl Jam so probably doesn’t want to do a big tour or has the time to do . He probably wants to do theaters because he is playing arenas everywhere else with PJ and it doesn’t make sense to play 1/2 full arenas when you can sell out a theater.
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7.21.98 Seattle
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11.2.00 Portland, WA
11.3.00 Boise, ID
11.5.00 Seattle, WA
11.6.00 Seattle, WA
10.22.21 Seattle, WA
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7.22.06 George, WA
7.23.06 George, WA
6.28.08 Mansfield, MA
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Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
Toronto 03, 06, 11
Ottawa 05, 11
Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
Costa Rica 11
London (Ont.), Hartford 13
Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)
It's like PJ having played Pemberton in 2016, but not Vancouver since 2013. That's a long run without a Vancouver show, but Pemberton's not that far away, and it was pretty good time. It was within driving distance and in the same province
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
- Al Swearengen
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6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
9/5/23 Chicago-United Center
9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
8/29/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/31/23 Chicago-Wrigley Field
Houston, B'ham, Nashville, Atlanta '03
Toledo, Grand Rapids '04
Kitchener, London '05
Camden x 2, D.C., Cincy, San Fran x 3 '06
Chicago '07
Columbia '08
MSG x 2 '10;
PJ 20 x 2 '11
Atlanta '12
Wrigley '13
St. Louis, Memphis '14
Lexington '15
Wrigley '16
Wrigley x 2 '18
Nashville '22