$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
A big part of our problems now arise from the fact that a lot of the people who can easily plonk down $250 for a concert ticket have discovered that doing so doesn’t exempt them from public health requirements, and they’re fucking furious about it.
I by no means think that paying a fee for anything exempts me from anything at all. I'm not that crazy. I do think having a room full of vaccinated people or people who have tested negative and are still required to wear masks is one of the most insane concepts I've ever heard. But I understand that's the new normal for the sheep.
I'm shocked at how hard this still is for some people to understand.
1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether.
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going.
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My biggest gripe is lack of southeast dates and dates in general. Why not hit a bunch more cities? My only guess is the Earthlings will have more tours down the line. - and no way it’s a we don’t know the demand thing because it’s a modern day supergroup! They know they will sell them.
Instead of charging more in order to play less, PLAY MORE and charge a little less. These guys barely have to work to survive anymore and they can’t be bothered to do at least 10 shows? 8 nights of their lives is all they got in them? Same with Pearl Jam honestly, the touring schedule is so light of late (covid reasons excluded). I know this just sounds like gimme gimme gimme, but I know they can give us more. Something we don’t know about holds them back.
I would like to believe the band is putting their money where their mouth is.
Hopefully they continue to avoid states that are too preoccupied with:
overturning Roe v Wade
minority oppression
voter suppression
baking cakes for homosexuals
gendered bathrooms
gun fetishization
tax cuts for the wealthy
privatizing health care
and destroying public schools
(did I miss anything)
I tend to agree in principle but the cities in those states are where they would be playing and they are not like the state at large. Houston for example. Houston might be in Texas but it’s not Texas.
it’s like group punishment for people that have nothing to do with it
$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
A big part of our problems now arise from the fact that a lot of the people who can easily plonk down $250 for a concert ticket have discovered that doing so doesn’t exempt them from public health requirements, and they’re fucking furious about it.
I by no means think that paying a fee for anything exempts me from anything at all. I'm not that crazy. I do think having a room full of vaccinated people or people who have tested negative and are still required to wear masks is one of the most insane concepts I've ever heard. But I understand that's the new normal for the sheep.
I'm shocked at how hard this still is for some people to understand.
1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether. SO....LIKE ANY FLU VIRUS
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably. IT REALLY DOESN'T.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission. ANYONE WHO WANTED THE 'VACCINE' COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT BY NOW. SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IRRELEVANT.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens (BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO IT) during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political. "EXPERTS" ARE LED BY A GUY WHO CONTINUOUSLY LIES TO THE PUBLIC. THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT MONEY FROM THE GET GO. I DONT KNOW HOW ANYONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going. BUT IF 'VACCINATED' CAN SPREAD IT AND ALL THAT THEN IF EVERYONE GOT 'VACCINATED' BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU'D STILL HAVE TO WEAR A MASK. SOOOO THAT MEANS MASKS FOREVER!
$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
A big part of our problems now arise from the fact that a lot of the people who can easily plonk down $250 for a concert ticket have discovered that doing so doesn’t exempt them from public health requirements, and they’re fucking furious about it.
I by no means think that paying a fee for anything exempts me from anything at all. I'm not that crazy. I do think having a room full of vaccinated people or people who have tested negative and are still required to wear masks is one of the most insane concepts I've ever heard. But I understand that's the new normal for the sheep.
I'm shocked at how hard this still is for some people to understand.
1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether.
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going.
I know a lot of PJ fans in 2014 that probably agree with letting people poop where they please had a show canceled on them because other people, that were not going to the show, didn't agree with letting people poop where they please.
Not sure why you punish those that want to let people poop where they please. Also, never did find out how the shit settled on that issue.
(topics i never envisioned debating as a child .... )
I'm sure I'm late to the party but these prices are ridiculous.
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I put in for two tickets. It feels expensive. But I’m not angry over it and I have a couple days to think it over. In all likelihood I’m not going to get tickets anyway because of the demand.
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I know a lot of PJ fans in 2014 that probably agree with letting people poop where they please had a show canceled on them because other people, that were not going to the show, didn't agree with letting people poop where they please.
Not sure why you punish those that want to let people poop where they please. Also, never did find out how the shit settled on that issue.
(topics i never envisioned debating as a child .... )
I wouldn’t say shit is settled, but what happened in the immediate wake of the cancelled NC show is that the state legislature was successfully pressured (not just because of Pearl Jam obviously, but in large part due to the combined weight of similar boycotts) to repeal the law in question. That’s why you do it - not to “punish” the fans.
On another completely different note (that possibly has zero to do with this thread): I'm really excited to hear Ed play songs from The Flag Day Soundtrack (or Glen play some in his set), I loved what I saw from the band on "Take the Long Way" and I just want to be around that energy, that band, these fans! I need it. I hope we can get past the cost and get the people in the building that love the experience! Be good and good luck!
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I put in for two tickets. It feels expensive. But I’m not angry over it and I have a couple days to think it over. In all likelihood I’m not going to get tickets anyway because of the demand.
Exactly. It’s best to set expectations realistically. It’ll be millions going for thousands of tickets. Chances are you aren’t getting tixs. So why waste time and energy complaining about something you don’t have, and probably won’t be getting anyway.
On another completely different note (that possibly has zero to do with this thread): I'm really excited to hear Ed play songs from The Flag Day Soundtrack (or Glen play some in his set), I loved what I saw from the band on "Take the Long Way" and I just want to be around that energy, that band, these fans! I need it. I hope we can get past the cost and get the people in the building that love the experience! Be good and good luck!
Based on seeing them do it a few times at Ohana, you're in for a treat.
I am also excited to see/hear the setlists. Assuming a majority of the Earthlings album. Some Flag Day stuff. Will they rework some Into the Wild and Ukulele songs? Probably some covers. Should be fun for those going.
$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
Is this a joke
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For those trying for 10C tickets, are you also registering for Verified Fan as a backup?
Yes. That is what I also did for the Gigaton tour tickets and it paid off. I didn’t get any 10c tickets but was able to get tickets from the verified fan presale.
$240 a ticket to hear the Evenbros yell out their song requests during the entire show, that sounds like fun!
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For those trying for 10C tickets, are you also registering for Verified Fan as a backup?
Yes. That is what I also did for the Gigaton tour tickets and it paid off. I didn’t get any 10c tickets but was able to get tickets from the verified fan presale.
Thanks. I know there’s no legitimacy to this, but part of me feels like registering for VF decreases your chance of getting 10C since both of the sales are through TM. I know it sounds like superstitious nonsense and it probably is. I just don’t trust TM.
$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
A big part of our problems now arise from the fact that a lot of the people who can easily plonk down $250 for a concert ticket have discovered that doing so doesn’t exempt them from public health requirements, and they’re fucking furious about it.
I by no means think that paying a fee for anything exempts me from anything at all. I'm not that crazy. I do think having a room full of vaccinated people or people who have tested negative and are still required to wear masks is one of the most insane concepts I've ever heard. But I understand that's the new normal for the sheep.
I'm shocked at how hard this still is for some people to understand.
1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether. SO....LIKE ANY FLU VIRUS
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably. IT REALLY DOESN'T.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission. ANYONE WHO WANTED THE 'VACCINE' COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT BY NOW. SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IRRELEVANT.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens (BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO IT) during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political. "EXPERTS" ARE LED BY A GUY WHO CONTINUOUSLY LIES TO THE PUBLIC. THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT MONEY FROM THE GET GO. I DONT KNOW HOW ANYONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going. BUT IF 'VACCINATED' CAN SPREAD IT AND ALL THAT THEN IF EVERYONE GOT 'VACCINATED' BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU'D STILL HAVE TO WEAR A MASK. SOOOO THAT MEANS MASKS FOREVER!
$250 a ticket and being forced to show health status AND wear a mask inside the venue? Hard pass on that BS. I wonder if EV has to mask up? No, he's the singer and famous so he's exempt. Will the rest of the band mask up? Doubt it. Can no one see the hypocrisy? The world has come undone...
A big part of our problems now arise from the fact that a lot of the people who can easily plonk down $250 for a concert ticket have discovered that doing so doesn’t exempt them from public health requirements, and they’re fucking furious about it.
I by no means think that paying a fee for anything exempts me from anything at all. I'm not that crazy. I do think having a room full of vaccinated people or people who have tested negative and are still required to wear masks is one of the most insane concepts I've ever heard. But I understand that's the new normal for the sheep.
I'm shocked at how hard this still is for some people to understand.
1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether.
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going.
Preach brother.
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$240 a ticket to hear the Evenbros yell out their song requests during the entire show, that sounds like fun!
Especially after they’ve been cooped up for two years.
I feel better about all of this as it confirms everybody ends up selling out at some point including EV.
I wish the band would just play and stop with all the platitudes - they’ve lost all credibility about being better than the rest after hyper merchandising everything the last couple years, Ed mugging for every camera that would follow him around Chicago and Cubs, playing private parties, using his privilege to get his daughters career going, and now indoor shows with $250 tickets while a pandemic rages into a 4th wave.
"Hey, listen asshole, one more fucker throws a fuckin' quarter up here and we're outta here, I'm tellin' ya, FUCKER! What the fuck, you're blowin' it for fuckin' everybody. Hit me with a fuckin' quarter again and, fuck it, I'm outta here. We're all outta here. Fuck you, and if anyone sees someone throw fuckin' change right next to them, you have my permission to beat the fuckin' holy shit outta them."
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1. Vaccinations protect people from severe consequences of COVID. They don't eliminate the possibility of contracting COVID altogether.
2. Requiring vaccinated people who gather in large groups -- especially indoors -- to wear masks reduces the risk of mass transmission considerably.
3. The fact that vaccinated folks who catch COVID can spread the disease to unvaccinated people (who may consequently suffer severe consequences) makes it necessary to continue enacting measures to prevent mass transmission.
The government (federal/state/local) has always had a responsibility to protect its citizens during a health crises. These measures are not crazy -- they're literally in line with one of government's most important roles. The sheep are not those masking up and getting vaccinated, they're those who continue to defy experts on the subject and folks who know infinitely more about contagious diseases than they do as some sort of political stance on a subject that is medical, not political.
You know what would make it so that everyone who is vaccinated in a crowded space didn't have to wear a mask? If everyone else whom they may interact with outside of that space also got vaccinated. But we all know how that's going.
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it’s like group punishment for people that have nothing to do with it
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This is the 1st show I have not been able to use my sources to get me into a show there ever.
Apparently, the venue was given zero tickets.
Every single ticket is being allocated by the 10C or Ticketmaster.
Dammit.
Here's to hoping I win the lotto I guess.
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I would guess odds to be somewhere in the 10-20% range, maybe higher if the price scares as many people away as this thread suggests it might.
That said, I very strongly expect for those who enter the lottery to have a greater chance of losing than winning.
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I wish the band would just play and stop with all the platitudes - they’ve lost all credibility about being better than the rest after hyper merchandising everything the last couple years, Ed mugging for every camera that would follow him around Chicago and Cubs, playing private parties, using his privilege to get his daughters career going, and now indoor shows with $250 tickets while a pandemic rages into a 4th wave.