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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Interesting. I just looked it up again and Google came up with "Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent."
So who to believe? All I know is more than ever I am NOT voting on horses or goggles, damn it!
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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Double post. First time in a long long time.
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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
I’m the last one the chest thump. I’m an independent because I don’t align with the two major parties…so what? I go by common sense and my own conscience, not one or two singular issues (like “gas prices”). And how dare I be concerned that we’re well over $8/gallon here? It hinders so many people in many different ways. Not so difficult to understand, right?
funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
I’m the last one the chest thump. I’m an independent because I don’t align with the two major parties…so what? I go by common sense and my own conscience, not one or two singular issues (like “gas prices”). And how dare I be concerned that we’re well over $8/gallon here? It hinders so many people in many different ways. Not so difficult to understand, right?
Technically I'm an independent, I guess...but I almost always vote Dem...that's part of my point. Voting outside of Dem was technically on the table (and I voted 3rd for Governor once) before 2018 so maybe I show up as "independent" in the poll. For for voting purposes, I'm essentially a Democrat, for all the party's flaws. Anecdotally, I've seen it as a chest-thump for one-party voters to say they're independent (along with "libertarians" who are straight-ticket republicans and love everything that's going on).
As for gas, the high cost really has nothing to do with the Party in Disarray. But people in the center are likely to vote for change* because of it; they tend not to see the gravity of the the situation that is the house of cards the Republic is sitting on.
*It's not really change...the GOP is really the party in power now...it's just less official.
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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
I’m the last one the chest thump. I’m an independent because I don’t align with the two major parties…so what? I go by common sense and my own conscience, not one or two singular issues (like “gas prices”). And how dare I be concerned that we’re well over $8/gallon here? It hinders so many people in many different ways. Not so difficult to understand, right?
Same. I align with some portions of each party (just some of the fiscal stuff with the GOP), but nowhere close to 100% of either. And frankly have very little use for the extreme ends of each party. I fall somewhere in the middle as I think the majority of Americans do. The problem is the extremists are the most vocal and their nonsense has led us to be the divided mess of a nation we are currently.
Yo! I said, easy on the damn mayo! Probably too many doors and not enough guns.
A Subway sandwich customer allegedly shot two employees after he reportedly became angry over too much mayonnaise on his food, officials said.
One employee, a 26-year-old woman, was killed and the other, a 24-year-old woman, was injured in the Sunday evening shooting, Atlanta police said.
The 24-year-old is in critical condition, Atlanta Police Deputy Chief Charles Hampton Jr. said at a news conference Monday.
One of the owners of the Subway on Northside Dr. SW, Willie Glenn, told ABC News, "A customer came in and he wasn't happy with the way his sandwich was made -- there was too much mayonnaise on it."
Hampton said the customer then "decided to take out his anger on two of the employees" in a "senseless act" of gun violence.
The 24-year-old victim's 5-year-old child was in the Subway at the time of the shooting, Hampton noted.
Glenn, who was not there at the time of the shooting, said he's in shock.
He said he doesn't understand why the customer didn't ask the employees to "take some mayo off, or make another sandwich, or ask for a refund."
"I just never, ever, ever thought that any kind of situation would rise to that level," Glenn said. "We've always been able to deescalate any situation. But this one just went from zero to 100 in a matter of seconds."
He added, "Now we've got a young person who is probably going to spend the rest of his life in jail over a $7 sandwich and some mayonnaise."
A 36-year-old Atlanta man has been arrested, Hampton said. His name was not released.
The two employees who were shot had been working at the Subway shop for just a few weeks, Glenn said.
Yea you’re behavior on these boards is definitely normal. Keep obsessing about what I said. Because that’s normal. Especially at 2:30 AM. Normal. It’s because of extremists like you that voters either stay home or go to the other side. Why don’t you just move already?
A teen working at Burger King, an 11 month old, these two officers, two other police officers. Great few weeks here in NYC. Good start to 2022
What does this even mean? Word salad is the order of the day.
Help me out, Yo!
A teen working at BK? Ok.
An 11th Month Old? Damn, they exist?
These Two police officers? Pretending, preeetending, to be two other police officers? GTFOOH! You better step away from the desk before your ass gets tazed! Wanna see a rooster?
Gotta be careful who’s door you try to serve warrants too in those hills of Appalachia!
yup! Even pulling someone over for a busted tail light can result in a shootout! Sounds fun to be a police officer. But like my main man says…. More guns! That’s clearly the answer
funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
I’m the last one the chest thump. I’m an independent because I don’t align with the two major parties…so what? I go by common sense and my own conscience, not one or two singular issues (like “gas prices”). And how dare I be concerned that we’re well over $8/gallon here? It hinders so many people in many different ways. Not so difficult to understand, right?
It actually is. Voting should be about which long term vision of the country is a better direction. Gas prices is a systemic issue, where the American economic system gives the president some power to change the current problem but not a lot. Pulling from emergency reserves and reducing taxes are the short term fixes, and Biden is trying both. Long term fixes are drilling, but that takes years. Or renewables, but that takes decades, and also loyal democrat party voting every year, or it ain’t gonna happen.
so While the left leaners in the middle vote for both parties, the ultra conservative judicial branch has taken over almost full control of the country, and they ain’t gonna lift a finger for gas prices. Because trump is right, the system is rigged, but for his side, by giving more power to the conservative states. And since there is an audience of short term thinking vote flippers, that always gives the party not in power the incentive to fight any type of gas price fix. But those loyal,right wing voters show up every year, and now 40 years of dedicated voting has handed them virtually unstoppable power
The ironic thing about independents are is that many of them are libertarians, and they never vote D. So flipping back and forth by many voters has created a vacuum where conservatives will do good enough in senate and presidential elections to fully control the court, for likely 20+ years. The recent rulings are just the beginning of this trend.
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funny. independents are the plurality, sone 47%. R and D sonewhere between 20-25% each
Claiming to be an independent is also a bit of a chest thump. A lot of these independents probably are essentially Dems or Republicans. That said, seeing this many independents could be a bit scary because they tend to care far more about gas prices than they do about whether the republic is maintained or not.
I’m the last one the chest thump. I’m an independent because I don’t align with the two major parties…so what? I go by common sense and my own conscience, not one or two singular issues (like “gas prices”). And how dare I be concerned that we’re well over $8/gallon here? It hinders so many people in many different ways. Not so difficult to understand, right?
It actually is. Voting should be about which long term vision of the country is a better direction. Gas prices is a systemic issue, where the American economic system gives the president some power to change the current problem but not a lot. Pulling from emergency reserves and reducing taxes are the short term fixes, and Biden is trying both. Long term fixes are drilling, but that takes years. Or renewables, but that takes decades, and also loyal democrat party voting every year, or it ain’t gonna happen.
so While the left leaners in the middle vote for both parties, the ultra conservative judicial branch has taken over almost full control of the country, and they ain’t gonna lift a finger for gas prices. Because trump is right, the system is rigged, but for his side, by giving more power to the conservative states. And since there is an audience of short term thinking vote flippers, that always gives the party not in power the incentive to fight any type of gas price fix. But those loyal,right wing voters show up every year, and now 40 years of dedicated voting has handed them virtually unstoppable power
The ironic thing about independents are is that many of them are libertarians, and they never vote D. So flipping back and forth by many voters has created a vacuum where conservatives will do good enough in senate and presidential elections to fully control the court, for likely 20+ years. The recent rulings are just the beginning of this trend.
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Uvalde schools' police chief resigns from City Council
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UVALDE, Texas (AP) — The Uvalde school district’s police chief has stepped down from his position in the City Council just weeks after being sworn in following allegations that he erred in his response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that left 19 students and two teachers dead.
Chief Pete Arredondo told the Uvalde Leader-News on Friday that he has decided to step down for the good of the city. He was elected to the council on May 7 and was sworn in on May 31, just a week after the massacre, in a closed-door ceremony.
“After much consideration, I regret to inform those who voted for me that I have decided to step down as a member of the city council for District 3. The mayor, the city council, and the city staff must continue to move forward without distractions. I feel this is the best decision for Uvalde,” Arredondo said.
On June 21, the City Council voted unanimously to deny Arredondo a leave of absence from appearing at public meetings. Relatives of the shooting victims had pleaded with city leaders to fire him.
The Uvalde City Council released a statement Saturday saying members couldn't comment because they had not received official notification from Arredondo of his intent to resign.
“While it is the right thing to do, no one from the City has seen a letter or any other documentation of his resignation, or spoken with him,” the council members said. “When the City receives confirmation of Councilman Arredondo’s resignation, the City will address the Council place vacancy.”
Representatives of Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin have not responded to AP's requests for comment.
Col. Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told a state Senate hearing last month that Arredondo — the on-site commander — made “terrible decisions” as the massacre unfolded on May 24 , and that the police response was an “abject failure.”
Three minutes after 18-year-old Salvador Ramos entered the school, sufficient armed law enforcement were on scene to stop the gunman, McCraw testified. Yet police officers armed with rifles stood and waited in a school hallway for more than an hour while the gunman carried out the massacre. The classroom door could not be locked from the inside, but there is no indication officers tried to open the door while the gunman was inside, McCraw said.
“The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children,” McCraw said.
Arredondo has tried to defend his actions, telling the Texas Tribune that he didn’t consider himself the commander in charge of operations and that he assumed someone else had taken control of the law enforcement response. He said he didn’t have his police and campus radios but that he used his cellphone to call for tactical gear, a sniper and the classroom keys.
It’s still not clear why it took so long for police to enter the classroom, how they communicated with each other during the attack, and what their body cameras show.
Officials have declined to release more details, citing the investigation.
Arredondo, 50, grew up in Uvalde and has spent much of his nearly 30-year career in law enforcement in the city.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I’m in my back yard with my dog I might have to stay here for ever! Happy 4th to who ever is celebrating this year! I’m really having a hard time being patriotic these days..
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I’m in my back yard with my dog I might have to stay here for ever! Happy 4th to who ever is celebrating this year! I’m really having a hard time being patriotic these days..
I've already been seeing this fourth as not a celebration, but a July 4, A Day of Mourning. The reasons for that just keep mounting.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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As for gas, the high cost really has nothing to do with the Party in Disarray. But people in the center are likely to vote for change* because of it; they tend not to see the gravity of the the situation that is the house of cards the Republic is sitting on.
*It's not really change...the GOP is really the party in power now...it's just less official.
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disgusting.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
A Subway sandwich customer allegedly shot two employees after he reportedly became angry over too much mayonnaise on his food, officials said.
One employee, a 26-year-old woman, was killed and the other, a 24-year-old woman, was injured in the Sunday evening shooting, Atlanta police said.
The 24-year-old is in critical condition, Atlanta Police Deputy Chief Charles Hampton Jr. said at a news conference Monday.
One of the owners of the Subway on Northside Dr. SW, Willie Glenn, told ABC News, "A customer came in and he wasn't happy with the way his sandwich was made -- there was too much mayonnaise on it."
Hampton said the customer then "decided to take out his anger on two of the employees" in a "senseless act" of gun violence.
The 24-year-old victim's 5-year-old child was in the Subway at the time of the shooting, Hampton noted.
MORE: Supreme Court strikes down New York law limiting concealed handguns in public
Glenn, who was not there at the time of the shooting, said he's in shock.
He said he doesn't understand why the customer didn't ask the employees to "take some mayo off, or make another sandwich, or ask for a refund."
"I just never, ever, ever thought that any kind of situation would rise to that level," Glenn said. "We've always been able to deescalate any situation. But this one just went from zero to 100 in a matter of seconds."
He added, "Now we've got a young person who is probably going to spend the rest of his life in jail over a $7 sandwich and some mayonnaise."
A 36-year-old Atlanta man has been arrested, Hampton said. His name was not released.
The two employees who were shot had been working at the Subway shop for just a few weeks, Glenn said.
MORE: America's gun violence problem by the numbers
He described them as punctual, "excellent workers."
"Got along great with everybody in the store. Just model employees," he said.
Glenn said he might close the store permanently.
"I can't put anybody else at risk like that in that neighborhood," he said. "It's not worth somebody's life."
Customer angry over mayo shoots 2 workers (msn.com)
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“Fuck you people with your fucking guns”
And then on page (swipe) 6:
”Fuck YOU….you gun loving, pro life mother fuckers”
It’s emotional and raw, honest and heart wrenching. She writes it so well that you think you’re right there with her while it’s happening.
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2022/07/01/man-arrested-after-loading-handgun-outside-logan-airport/
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Yea you’re behavior on these boards is definitely normal. Keep obsessing about what I said. Because that’s normal. Especially at 2:30 AM. Normal. It’s because of extremists like you that voters either stay home or go to the other side. Why don’t you just move already?
”Normal.”
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so While the left leaners in the middle vote for both parties, the ultra conservative judicial branch has taken over almost full control of the country, and they ain’t gonna lift a finger for gas prices. Because trump is right, the system is rigged, but for his side, by giving more power to the conservative states. And since there is an audience of short term thinking vote flippers, that always gives the party not in power the incentive to fight any type of gas price fix. But those loyal,right wing voters show up every year, and now 40 years of dedicated voting has handed them virtually unstoppable power
The ironic thing about independents are is that many of them are libertarians, and they never vote D. So flipping back and forth by many voters has created a vacuum where conservatives will do good enough in senate and presidential elections to fully control the court, for likely 20+ years. The recent rulings are just the beginning of this trend.
have you run for office? if not. WHY NOT.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
UVALDE, Texas (AP) — The Uvalde school district’s police chief has stepped down from his position in the City Council just weeks after being sworn in following allegations that he erred in his response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that left 19 students and two teachers dead.
Chief Pete Arredondo told the Uvalde Leader-News on Friday that he has decided to step down for the good of the city. He was elected to the council on May 7 and was sworn in on May 31, just a week after the massacre, in a closed-door ceremony.
“After much consideration, I regret to inform those who voted for me that I have decided to step down as a member of the city council for District 3. The mayor, the city council, and the city staff must continue to move forward without distractions. I feel this is the best decision for Uvalde,” Arredondo said.
Arredondo, who has been on administrative leave from his school district position since June 22, has declined repeated requests for comment from The Associated Press. His attorney, George Hyde, did not immediately respond to emailed requests for comment Saturday.
On June 21, the City Council voted unanimously to deny Arredondo a leave of absence from appearing at public meetings. Relatives of the shooting victims had pleaded with city leaders to fire him.
The Uvalde City Council released a statement Saturday saying members couldn't comment because they had not received official notification from Arredondo of his intent to resign.
“While it is the right thing to do, no one from the City has seen a letter or any other documentation of his resignation, or spoken with him,” the council members said. “When the City receives confirmation of Councilman Arredondo’s resignation, the City will address the Council place vacancy.”
Representatives of Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin have not responded to AP's requests for comment.
Col. Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told a state Senate hearing last month that Arredondo — the on-site commander — made “terrible decisions” as the massacre unfolded on May 24 , and that the police response was an “abject failure.”
Three minutes after 18-year-old Salvador Ramos entered the school, sufficient armed law enforcement were on scene to stop the gunman, McCraw testified. Yet police officers armed with rifles stood and waited in a school hallway for more than an hour while the gunman carried out the massacre. The classroom door could not be locked from the inside, but there is no indication officers tried to open the door while the gunman was inside, McCraw said.
McCraw has said parents begged police outside the school to move in and students inside the classroom repeatedly pleaded with 911 operators for help while more than a dozen officers waited in a hallway. Officers from other agencies urged Arredondo to let them move in because children were in danger.
“The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children,” McCraw said.
Arredondo has tried to defend his actions, telling the Texas Tribune that he didn’t consider himself the commander in charge of operations and that he assumed someone else had taken control of the law enforcement response. He said he didn’t have his police and campus radios but that he used his cellphone to call for tactical gear, a sniper and the classroom keys.
It’s still not clear why it took so long for police to enter the classroom, how they communicated with each other during the attack, and what their body cameras show.
Officials have declined to release more details, citing the investigation.
Arredondo, 50, grew up in Uvalde and has spent much of his nearly 30-year career in law enforcement in the city.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/4/23194354/highland-park-fourth-july-parade-gunfire
I've already been seeing this fourth as not a celebration, but a July 4, A Day of Mourning. The reasons for that just keep mounting.