America's Gun Violence #2

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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,908
    edited June 2022
    nicknyr15 said:



    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    Man that is INSANE. My uncle is in England right now and the most commonly asked question he’s getting is “aren’t you scared of getting shot everyday?” 

    WOW!

    Insane is right.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,197
    Statistically, you're not very likely to get shot. That's not to say we should be OK with terror at a school or other public venue every day. But just about every American is more likely to die in a vehicle crash from a gun.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,334
    Legal open carry, automatics weapons legal to purchase, radical politician threatening to kill RINOs (Republican in name only).  What a grate on your nerves nation. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,976
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    Man that is INSANE. My uncle is in England right now and the most commonly asked question he’s getting is “aren’t you scared of getting shot everyday?” 
    It is insane. What if 20 armed idiots showed up walking around like that? Perfectly legal.
    We face a lot of problems here in NYC but man am I grateful to not have people walking around looking like Rambo. 
    2nd this^^^^
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,684
    edited June 2022


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    These are the people that are ruining it for you....not the dems.

    It just isn't a sustainable practice. But...in amurikkka we have to learn the hard way. 

    edit: and my guess, if you were to ask the guy, is that he is just practicing his "freedumb"....he's allowed to do it so he will do it and no one can stop him
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    These are the people that are ruining it for you....not the dems.

    It just isn't a sustainable practice. But...in amurikkka we have to learn the hard way. 

    edit: and my guess, if you were to ask the guy, is that he is just practicing his "freedumb"....he's allowed to do it so he will do it and no one can stop him
    Believe me I know.  The whole "I'm a man" and "my rights" crap is nauseating.

    When I read that they are "just practicing their amendment rights" I would ask them to look up on the Black Panthers and what happened when they were "practicing" it...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,497
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,033


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,607


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,684


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  
    yep...it's crazy

    There are too many people with itchy trigger fingers to allow this bullshit. It's just a matter of time before the scenario you just pointed out will occur.

    It reminds me of the armed forces recruiting center shooting several years ago. After that shooting these nuts showed up to the center and "guarded" it outside with their guns. As if the shooter that was already apprehended or killed was going to shoot it up again?

    My first thought was that they just make themselves the target. I could easily walk up to an AR15 carrying hilljack and blast them in the head with my concealed weapon and then go about my spree.  They just don't see it that way.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,334


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  

    If they are carrying legally, I would suggest two things.
    1.  Drive away in the opposite direction from the person with the AR15 as quickly as safely possible.
    2.  Start looking for a new job and a home in another state that does not allow this kind of insanity.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,033
    brianlux said:


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  

    If they are carrying legally, I would suggest two things.
    1.  Drive away in the opposite direction from the person with the AR15 as quickly as safely possible.
    2.  Start looking for a new job and a home in another state that does not allow this kind of insanity.
    Throw in a 1a to call the police and that is a good list of things to do.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,334
    brianlux said:


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  

    If they are carrying legally, I would suggest two things.
    1.  Drive away in the opposite direction from the person with the AR15 as quickly as safely possible.
    2.  Start looking for a new job and a home in another state that does not allow this kind of insanity.
    Throw in a 1a to call the police and that is a good list of things to do.

    Good idea.  I'm not sure the cops could do anything in a case like that put their presence might at least be helpful. 
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    We just watched a police pursuit of a stolen car. The guys finally stopped and so began the “walk backwards toward my voice” deal. All complied (three folks in the car) and the police had their weapons drawn.

    Okay, so far so good. Standard shit. 

    Then, the cops are talking to and looking at each other but still have their guns pointing.

    It struck us as irresponsible. Either keep the gun drawn and focus on that, or chat with your fellow officers. 

    Not both. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    because of course they would oppose it. i am so over the gop. there has never been another group of people that have 100% of the time been on the wrong side of issues for the last 50 years.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,497
    because of course they would oppose it. i am so over the gop. there has never been another group of people that have 100% of the time been on the wrong side of issues for the last 50 years.

    doesnt matter. not one is needed to pass that in the house. Just meat for the meatheads....
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491


    Good guy with a gun....or bad guy? Who the fuck knows until the shooting starts?
    I don't and never will understand why you would walk around like this.

    If you are inflicting fear in people then you should be arrested for something.  Never in a million years would I walk around w a Tactical weapon in public.  Stupid.
    I was outside a store last weekend and got in my car. My mind drifted for some reason to what if saw someone walking in the parking lot to the store and they had an AR15.  Should I run them over with my car in that situation if I could?  But what if they can legally carry a weapon and weren't going to shoot up the place, and now I'm the criminal instead of the hero?    Weird things to think about.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,377
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
    I'm amazed that people think that it's easy to get away with these types of actions?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,377
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
    I'm amazed that people think that it's easy to get away with these types of actions?
    being underage, I'm sure they eventually will get away with it. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,197
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
    A cab? Did they call it afterwards? Did they take the cab there and say "keep the meter running; just gotta go shoot someone quickly," or is the travelling carnival in a place that happens to be surrounded by a lot of cabs?

    (Or by "cab" do you not mean taxicab?)
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,377
    OnWis97 said:
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
    A cab? Did they call it afterwards? Did they take the cab there and say "keep the meter running; just gotta go shoot someone quickly," or is the travelling carnival in a place that happens to be surrounded by a lot of cabs?

    (Or by "cab" do you not mean taxicab?)
    those details haven't been released yet. I was wondering the same thing. I'd imagine there were cabs there waiting for fares, and they just jumped in. Generally in Winnipeg you have to call a cab unless it's a big event with lots of people then there will be some hanging around waiting for fares. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    there was a shooting at our travelling carnival (The Red River Exhibition) on Monday. My daughter is going tomorrow with some friends. I keep telling myself this was not random, it was a few teens that either knew each other, or got into some sort of altercation, but the fact that 15 and 17 year olds brought a loaded gun to the fair, shot another teen, got in a cab and sped away (but got caught later) has me a tad nervous. 
    I'm amazed that people think that it's easy to get away with these types of actions?
    being underage, I'm sure they eventually will get away with it. 
    The Keep em separated song is not factual, lol.

    Courts here in the states hit juveniles hard w gun crimes and murders.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,420
    Get ready for gun violence to surge in NYC and other places where concealed carry was previously restricted. Thanks SCOTUS. Can’t wait to to leave this heavily armed and scared country.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Get ready for gun violence to surge in NYC and other places where concealed carry was previously restricted. Thanks SCOTUS. Can’t wait to to leave this heavily armed and scared country.
    On NPR yesterday the legislators in NY and NJ are at the ready to introduce new laws if that happens.

    Concealed carry isn't so bad.  The people whom do have it had to do a whole lot to get that permit.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,586
    Get ready for gun violence to surge in NYC and other places where concealed carry was previously restricted. Thanks SCOTUS. Can’t wait to to leave this heavily armed and scared country.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,420
    Get ready for gun violence to surge in NYC and other places where concealed carry was previously restricted. Thanks SCOTUS. Can’t wait to to leave this heavily armed and scared country.
    On NPR yesterday the legislators in NY and NJ are at the ready to introduce new laws if that happens.

    Concealed carry isn't so bad.  The people whom do have it had to do a whole lot to get that permit.
    You’re comfortable with anyone who was previously legally able to purchase a gun in NY is now able to carry it concealed on their person and go about their day? I’m asking based on your “concealed carry isn’t so bad,” comment.

    The paranoid, hot head who bought a gun legally 10 years ago for home protection and was previously law abiding prior to the original gun purchase, is now carrying out in public. I pitty the barista who gets his or her order wrong or the person sitting across from one of these new concealed carriers who has their firearm fall out their pants waist and discharge. 

    Yea, I can totally see how “concealed carry isn’t so bad.”
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,197
    Get ready for gun violence to surge in NYC and other places where concealed carry was previously restricted. Thanks SCOTUS. Can’t wait to to leave this heavily armed and scared country.
    On NPR yesterday the legislators in NY and NJ are at the ready to introduce new laws if that happens.

    Concealed carry isn't so bad.  The people whom do have it had to do a whole lot to get that permit.
    You’re comfortable with anyone who was previously legally able to purchase a gun in NY is now able to carry it concealed on their person and go about their day? I’m asking based on your “concealed carry isn’t so bad,” comment.

    The paranoid, hot head who bought a gun legally 10 years ago for home protection and was previously law abiding prior to the original gun purchase, is now carrying out in public. I pitty the barista who gets his or her order wrong or the person sitting across from one of these new concealed carriers who has their firearm fall out their pants waist and discharge. 

    Yea, I can totally see how “concealed carry isn’t so bad.”
    Kinda like the Plaxico Burress case. I was not surprised the NRA did not make a peep about that one. Because his right to bear arms and be sloppy about it only didn't get someone killed through blind luck. (Oh, and he doesn't "look" like the image of a hard-working man just trying to defend himself, his family, and his property).
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