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America's Gun Violence #2

Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,477
https://abcnews.go.com/US/active-shooter-situation-reported-texas-high-school/story?id=80434656&fbclid=IwAR31zY1QNCDZZ64iJm_opPyOlq7HdFkL2hsvCDrVmpUjcEPiTaME5y4J0tM

Here we go again....

If this can be combined with the other thread if/when it is unlocked that would be great
Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,477
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,477
    gotta love Texas...
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
  • static111static111 Posts: 2,944
    nicknyr15 said:
    Apparently yes...it's a shame anyone has a gun at school, but this is America, so here we are
  • static111static111 Posts: 2,944
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2021/10/07/suspect-in-arlington-school-shooting-remains-jailed-thursday/
    more to the story.  Apparently the shooter may have been beaten and bullied for quite sometime and may have brought his treatment to the proper people that did nothing to help.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,583
    3 counts of aggravated assault? how about fucking attempted murder??
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,583
    weren't the columbine shooters bullied too? I thought we didn't see that as an acceptable excuse. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,201
    oh it is the new and improved gun thread.

    same arguments, less name calling.


    for now.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    oh it is the new and improved gun thread.

    same arguments, less name calling.


    for now.

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    (Sorry for the name calling :lol: )
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220
    weren't the columbine shooters bullied too? I thought we didn't see that as an acceptable excuse. 

    this one feel more spontaneous. columbine was well planned.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,583
    mickeyrat said:
    weren't the columbine shooters bullied too? I thought we didn't see that as an acceptable excuse. 

    this one feel more spontaneous. columbine was well planned.
    a) he still brought a gun to school
    b) after the bullies or whomever was neutralized, he continued shooting others. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    Guy on our walking trail told me yesterday:
    -Vaccines don't work
    -Only two drugs do work and you can't get them.
    -Stuff about deep state
    -Cops are going to come and get him and pin in to the ground and jab him with the vaccine.
    -Told me I should get a gun because "they" are going to come after us.

    Poor soul.. I actually do care about this man.  He is dirt poor, admits to have problems (points to his head), and EVERY DAY is on the walking trail feeding the feral kitties.  Makes me sad.  Very sad.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,477
    brianlux said:
    Guy on our walking trail told me yesterday:
    -Vaccines don't work
    -Only two drugs do work and you can't get them.
    -Stuff about deep state
    -Cops are going to come and get him and pin in to the ground and jab him with the vaccine.
    -Told me I should get a gun because "they" are going to come after us.

    Poor soul.. I actually do care about this man.  He is dirt poor, admits to have problems (points to his head), and EVERY DAY is on the walking trail feeding the feral kitties.  Makes me sad.  Very sad.
    Reminds me of the shit I was seeing on some stupid FB meme about how Merck's covid pill is bullshit and just a money grab...yet the same people push Ivermectin as a treatment for covid which is made by Merck.
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now!Posts: 4,937
    edited October 8
    Out on bail. God bless Texas...

    Edit-didn't see it was posted already
    Post edited by WhatYouTaughtMe on
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,968
    weren't the columbine shooters bullied too? I thought we didn't see that as an acceptable excuse. 
    And what planet is this kid not considered dangerous right now?  Even if you can stretch yourself far enough to justify it or call it mitigated, it is flat out unsafe to release the kid, isn’t it?

    As for the bullying, it really is too bad that schools still are this way and it sucks that we ultimately tend to come down on the side of the bullies in some ways/instances. But any human being has to understand it killing people is not an acceptable response. I really wish columbine had opened up a few dialogs, including the acceptability of bullying. It kind of did I suppose but it seems like teachers and administrators still identify with the bullies since their victims tend to be outcasts.

    I admit that there are instances in which I would celebrate a victim knocking his bully into next week, particularly when the adults in the vicinity allow the behavior to continue. Whatever happened to a good old punch in the nose? Instead, we accept bullying as something that certain kids have to go through, all while celebrating America’s symbol of freedom; the gun.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 9,535
    Bid deal that the kid made bond…

    sheesh here in Canada we gave bail to a cop killer charged with first degree murder … oops he was just a cop.

    this kid just shot a few people… 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,201
    Out on bail. God bless Texas...

    Edit-didn't see it was posted already
    out on bail, fresh outta jail, california dreamin'


    oops, wrong thread.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,434
    I could be wrong since I’m going off memory from about a year and half ago, but weren’t what a lot of the BLM protests about was for no cash bail, and didn’t a lot of people here agree? So why so upset this guy got a 75k bond?
    I agree it seems very low. Just think it’s also the direction a lot of people wanted?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220
    seriously doubt they included violent felonies in no cash bail ...
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,434
    mickeyrat said:
    seriously doubt they included violent felonies in no cash bail ...
    That makes more sense, but I thought they wanted to ban all cash bail. 
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 18,811
    Please stay on topic, troublemaker. There's a dog thread in AET if you want to discuss dogs.

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,229
    dankind said:
    Please stay on topic, troublemaker. There's a dog thread in AET if you want to discuss dogs.

    :smirk:
    Did someone say dogs?

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,172
    A whole lot of bark, no bite.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220
     Nikolas Cruz will plead guilty to killing 17 people in Parkland mass shooting, defense team says

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/15/nikolas-cruz-plea/

     

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,583
    should he be sentenced to death? defense is claiming history of insanity. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 9,535
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 15,282
    I wonder what the heck happened in this Baldwin incident. You can absolutely be killed by a blank (I knew someone that was). She was the cinematographer....so maybe it was a situation where he's pointing the gun right at the camera? Who knows....but what a terrible tragedy. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,968
    It looks like he intentionally pointed and pulled the trigger...I suspect out of ignorance of the impact of such things. I find it amazing that a guy who's been acting for decades would not realize it. I suppose other possibilities is that he pointed it without intent to pull the trigger and twitched or that it was a ruse to commit murder (maybe I watched too many Monk episodes).

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