Sneaking Up at Ohana Encore - Not Cute

RedMosquitoSmile28

Given2Fly-Fish said:

We were at Ohana 1 and it was our 3rd time.  Definitely seemed a little less "chill" for Pearl Jam Sunday evening.  I legit had to pee and went during Crazy Mary (unfortunately for me no long Boom jam... ).  Anyway in trying to make it back to my wife some dude stuck his elbow in my ribs and refused to let me pass.  I told him my situation and then moved along.  It's actually pretty funny looking back as I'm sure after all of these posts no one believed me  .  Still a dink move BTW...

We were in the first third on Friday, so close but not that close, and it was the first time we've tried to be sort of close. It was fun, but I don't know if I need to do it again. It got so smashed in there and that's not my thing and also plenty of people squeezing in front and not caring. I guess, whatever. But I also left to go to the bathroom before PJ, they hadn't even started and I was wiggling my way back to my wife and I was making some people very mad. Even though we'd been there for two-plus hours at that point. Lots of go back to the back and crap like that. Don't know how common it is but I was a little taken back.

There was lots of space on Friday from the beach towel section on. Saturday was more crowded. We decided to check it out from the bleachers and that was just fine by me. It was fun to be close once, though, but everyone else who wants it can for the most part have it!

Loujoe

Add to the story overload. 
Nothing beat way back whenever when ga meant a giant pit and no one cared about anything but the music and going nuts.
End of storytime.
Love and respect fellow music fans. I'm over it all for the moment.

mcgruff10

Loujoe said:

Add to the story overload. 
Nothing beat way back whenever when ga meant a giant pit and no one cared about anything but the music and going nuts.
End of storytime.
Love and respect fellow music fans. I'm over it all for the moment.

Yes!  

Go Beavers

RedMosquitoSmile28 said:

Given2Fly-Fish said:

We were at Ohana 1 and it was our 3rd time.  Definitely seemed a little less "chill" for Pearl Jam Sunday evening.  I legit had to pee and went during Crazy Mary (unfortunately for me no long Boom jam... ).  Anyway in trying to make it back to my wife some dude stuck his elbow in my ribs and refused to let me pass.  I told him my situation and then moved along.  It's actually pretty funny looking back as I'm sure after all of these posts no one believed me  .  Still a dink move BTW...

We were in the first third on Friday, so close but not that close, and it was the first time we've tried to be sort of close. It was fun, but I don't know if I need to do it again. It got so smashed in there and that's not my thing and also plenty of people squeezing in front and not caring. I guess, whatever. But I also left to go to the bathroom before PJ, they hadn't even started and I was wiggling my way back to my wife and I was making some people very mad. Even though we'd been there for two-plus hours at that point. Lots of go back to the back and crap like that. Don't know how common it is but I was a little taken back.

There was lots of space on Friday from the beach towel section on. Saturday was more crowded. We decided to check it out from the bleachers and that was just fine by me. It was fun to be close once, though, but everyone else who wants it can for the most part have it!

I had a similar experience before Ed started night two. I appreciated the big guys locking it down, but they weren’t swayed when I said I’d been here for 3 hours. Probably because the chumps cutting to the front who just got there said the same thing. 

One bad one that stood out was some woman cutting through the crowd holding up two full cups of red wine over her head. I thought ‘this won’t end well’. 

JeBurkhardt

Loujoe said:

Add to the story overload. 
Nothing beat way back whenever when ga meant a giant pit and no one cared about anything but the music and going nuts.
End of storytime.
Love and respect fellow music fans. I'm over it all for the moment.

It is certainly a different vibe than when I started going to GA shows in California in the early 80's. It was a free for all, with the only etiquette was be careful who you bumped into, because a there was a good chance a fight could break out depending on who it was. There was a person Friday asking people (me included) to step back and give their group some space. There was no one within 3 feet of them at the time.

jpgoegel

JeBurkhardt said:

Loujoe said:

Add to the story overload. 
Nothing beat way back whenever when ga meant a giant pit and no one cared about anything but the music and going nuts.
End of storytime.
Love and respect fellow music fans. I'm over it all for the moment.

It is certainly a different vibe than when I started going to GA shows in California in the early 80's. It was a free for all, with the only etiquette was be careful who you bumped into, because a there was a good chance a fight could break out depending on who it was. There was a person Friday asking people (me included) to step back and give their group some space. There was no one within 3 feet of them at the time.

a lot of punk shows, the smaller venues are still like that here in Boston.  you can be their first but you end up getting caught in maelstroms here and there and to quote someone above, resurface elsewhere.   it's awesome 

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan

Not a ga story but I remember buffalo 2003 and in the encore I think it was ritfw, people were jumping over the boards and the entire floor section was chaos. 

Go Beavers

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

Not a ga story but I remember buffalo 2003 and in the encore I think it was ritfw, people were jumping over the boards and the entire floor section was chaos. 

Great bootleg. I can understand the chaos

Foriginal Sin

JH6056 said:

mcgruff10 said:

I know you lined up and all but it is General Admission, they had the same right to be in that spot as you.  Just my humble opinion.
That's why seats are better. 

I can't tell if your at the end means you're being a little bit tongue-in-cheek, but sincerely I thought general admission meant no assigned seating, but once you were in 1st come 1st served, you had a right to protect your space?  When did GA mean  you can show up whenever you want and bulldoze your way to the front?

Does that mean that while waiting in the merch lines it's ok to bulldoze your way to the front to buy, since it's kind of a GA situation?

People who do that know others can stop them and say "Nope, not gonna happen", especially at the front where it's already tight.  Holding the line is nothing those people don't expect, but they also are used to people being too shy or too tired to argue about it. Which only reinforces it.

It’s always been this way, we’re just older and seeing it differently 

cp3iverson

vedpunk said:

cp3iverson said:

The rail people at festivals can be kind of annoying if they’re only there for headliners.  

At ACL they tended to sit all day and face the audience while other bands played.  Backs up against the rail ignoring the artists all day.  These weren’t PJ fans.  They were there for some younger bands.  At the same time it could be a generational thing.  ACL is clearly not crafted for people in their 30s-50s these days.  

Not sure I totally agree on your take on ACL.  I mean George Strait and Duran Duran were headliners this year. ha.  However, you also had Billie Eilish and Miley Cyrus so this year was a VERY diverse crowd.  But, out of all the major festivals ACL definitely skews the oldest crowd because there is always a legacy act.

They always have a few legacy acts at the top every year from rock or country but I can’t relate to most of the lineup anymore.  And that’s perfectly fine.  My kids love it way more now lol

Foriginal Sin

superfuzz30 said:

There’s a respect for people who have put the work in that should be there. People who don’t or say “it’s GA soooo” have never lined up at 6am. And that’s cool, not everyone wants to do that, but once you have you have an understanding about the code. 

Come up earlier. I was row 2/3 each night and went down about 4pm. You can make friends and take bathroom and drink breaks when needed. It’s not even that long of a wait.

Where the problem happens is shorter people want to leave room between them and the next person when we get to the timeframe when everyone stands up. It’s because they wanna be able to see and use that gap, and I get it, but it also leaves a big person sized gap and the snakes who run up find those.

There is no code bro. Gtfoh. Your idea of a code doesn’t reflect everyone. If you wait at 6am for rail and get pushed out that’s on you for wasting your time. Seats are king btw. 

bootlegger10

I may have been one of those people that walked down at 7:15pm to about 15 rows. It was actually pretty easy which means that people were leaving plenty of room.  I didn’t try to get any closer than that.

I saw several gaps in the crowd near the front both nights.  Great if you can keep all that space for yourself, but don’t complain if some people come down to take those spots.

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

I may have been one of those people that walked down at 7:15pm to about 15 rows. It was actually pretty easy which means that people were leaving plenty of room.  I didn’t try to get any closer than that.

I saw several gaps in the crowd near the front both nights.  Great if you can keep all that space for yourself, but don’t complain if some people come down to take those spots.

I was row 16, thanks for standing in front of me.  

tempo_n_groove

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

Reminds me of the people disembarking an airplane that ignore the exit by row rule.  Some people are just stupid as hell.

One of those guys was on our shuttle on Friday. He was sitting in the back, and as soon as the bus stopped he made his way past rows of people who were just staring at him.

That's ingenious.  He wanted to get out, lol!

bootlegger10

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I may have been one of those people that walked down at 7:15pm to about 15 rows. It was actually pretty easy which means that people were leaving plenty of room.  I didn’t try to get any closer than that.

I saw several gaps in the crowd near the front both nights.  Great if you can keep all that space for yourself, but don’t complain if some people come down to take those spots.

I was row 16, thanks for standing in front of me.  

Haha.   Your loud tone deaf singing was payback enough.

superfuzz30

Foriginal Sin said:

superfuzz30 said:

There’s a respect for people who have put the work in that should be there. People who don’t or say “it’s GA soooo” have never lined up at 6am. And that’s cool, not everyone wants to do that, but once you have you have an understanding about the code. 

Come up earlier. I was row 2/3 each night and went down about 4pm. You can make friends and take bathroom and drink breaks when needed. It’s not even that long of a wait.

Where the problem happens is shorter people want to leave room between them and the next person when we get to the timeframe when everyone stands up. It’s because they wanna be able to see and use that gap, and I get it, but it also leaves a big person sized gap and the snakes who run up find those.

There is no code bro. Gtfoh. Your idea of a code doesn’t reflect everyone. If you wait at 6am for rail and get pushed out that’s on you for wasting your time. Seats are king btw. 

There absolutely is. Its just respect for crying out loud. Sure, dont be dumb and leave a ton of space, abuse leaving for breaks, but there absolutely should be a respect for people who have put time in. Code is just a word.

This is also coming from someone saying seats are king. So sometime come wait in line at 6am and have people try and run up and take your spot and see how you feel.

tempo_n_groove

superfuzz30 said:

Foriginal Sin said:

superfuzz30 said:

There’s a respect for people who have put the work in that should be there. People who don’t or say “it’s GA soooo” have never lined up at 6am. And that’s cool, not everyone wants to do that, but once you have you have an understanding about the code. 

Come up earlier. I was row 2/3 each night and went down about 4pm. You can make friends and take bathroom and drink breaks when needed. It’s not even that long of a wait.

Where the problem happens is shorter people want to leave room between them and the next person when we get to the timeframe when everyone stands up. It’s because they wanna be able to see and use that gap, and I get it, but it also leaves a big person sized gap and the snakes who run up find those.

There is no code bro. Gtfoh. Your idea of a code doesn’t reflect everyone. If you wait at 6am for rail and get pushed out that’s on you for wasting your time. Seats are king btw. 

There absolutely is. Its just respect for crying out loud. Sure, dont be dumb and leave a ton of space, abuse leaving for breaks, but there absolutely should be a respect for people who have put time in. Code is just a word.

This is also coming from someone saying seats are king. So sometime come wait in line at 6am and have people try and run up and take your spot and see how you feel.

This is an argument for younger and older people.

Younger fans want to get up closer and be in the mix.

Older fans just want to be left alone and chill.

Here in this pic the person extending his hand is asking Eddie to hold his spot while he goes for a bathroom break.

mcgruff10

superfuzz30 said:

Foriginal Sin said:

superfuzz30 said:

There’s a respect for people who have put the work in that should be there. People who don’t or say “it’s GA soooo” have never lined up at 6am. And that’s cool, not everyone wants to do that, but once you have you have an understanding about the code. 

Come up earlier. I was row 2/3 each night and went down about 4pm. You can make friends and take bathroom and drink breaks when needed. It’s not even that long of a wait.

Where the problem happens is shorter people want to leave room between them and the next person when we get to the timeframe when everyone stands up. It’s because they wanna be able to see and use that gap, and I get it, but it also leaves a big person sized gap and the snakes who run up find those.

There is no code bro. Gtfoh. Your idea of a code doesn’t reflect everyone. If you wait at 6am for rail and get pushed out that’s on you for wasting your time. Seats are king btw. 

There absolutely is. Its just respect for crying out loud. Sure, dont be dumb and leave a ton of space, abuse leaving for breaks, but there absolutely should be a respect for people who have put time in. Code is just a word.

This is also coming from someone saying seats are king. So sometime come wait in line at 6am and have people try and run up and take your spot and see how you feel.

It s ga, someone can roll up next to you as the sweet sounds of just breathe are being played and that person is in the right.  It sucks that you lined up all day but unfortunately that’s what you get when you are in ga.  

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I may have been one of those people that walked down at 7:15pm to about 15 rows. It was actually pretty easy which means that people were leaving plenty of room.  I didn’t try to get any closer than that.

I saw several gaps in the crowd near the front both nights.  Great if you can keep all that space for yourself, but don’t complain if some people come down to take those spots.

I was row 16, thanks for standing in front of me.  

Haha.   Your loud tone deaf singing was payback enough.

Your crying during buckle up was unbearable.

bootlegger10

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

I may have been one of those people that walked down at 7:15pm to about 15 rows. It was actually pretty easy which means that people were leaving plenty of room.  I didn’t try to get any closer than that.

I saw several gaps in the crowd near the front both nights.  Great if you can keep all that space for yourself, but don’t complain if some people come down to take those spots.

I was row 16, thanks for standing in front of me.  

Haha.   Your loud tone deaf singing was payback enough.

Your crying during buckle up was unbearable.

Well played.