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Fully vaxed and tested positive. Not feeling that bad, minor symptoms. But 2 coworkers, fully vaxed also, tested positive Thursday so I decided to get a tested when I started to feel congested. The 3 of us almost equal almost 10% of the staff. Weird thing is at least 1 other and myself did a home test and were told we don’t need to do another one. I already scheduled one to be sure. Are home tests being counted in the officials numbers? I would think not, and therefore breakout cases are probably a lot higher than reported.
I thought about doing the home test a little while back because I was feeling like crap for days. But I read that the home test- especially the rapid home test- are unreliable. I went and got the most up-to-date test. It wasn't nearly as bad as I had expected. (I turned out to be COVID negative so it was just my old chronic fatigue kicking in again.) So good question about whether not not the home test are counted in official numbers.
Fully vaxed and tested positive. Not feeling that bad, minor symptoms. But 2 coworkers, fully vaxed also, tested positive Thursday so I decided to get a tested when I started to feel congested. The 3 of us almost equal almost 10% of the staff. Weird thing is at least 1 other and myself did a home test and were told we don’t need to do another one. I already scheduled one to be sure. Are home tests being counted in the officials numbers? I would think not, and therefore breakout cases are probably a lot higher than reported.
Hope you continue to have a very mild case and recover quickly, and that your family stays well.
You're well educated and up-to-date on all this, Often. Do you know if those home test count?
By "count" do you mean is the data counted or do you mean are the results valid?
If you mean is the data counted, that's complicated because there are several different types of tests that can be done at home. These include tests where the individual does the swab at home but then sends it to a lab to be processed, and tests that are entirely performed and results provided at home.
For the ones where a swab is sent to a lab, then the result would be "counted" in the usual way that the lab would report tests.
For the ones that are entirely done at home, that varies depending on the test and how it's processed. There are some tests where you have to interact with the testing company's site for the result to be read; these include tests where the result is a colour change or a fluorescent reaction, which has to be read by an app that you download or has to be read by a staff member who is present via video. The results from these are supposed to be counted as usual, as the company is supposed to provide that data (to the CDC in the US).
There are also tests that the individual just reads at home without interacting with the testing company at all. In these cases the person is supposed to report test results, particularly positive tests, but I am guessing that people often don't.
As for the validity of the tests - if an at-home swab is sent to a lab and a PCR test is done on it then the results will be as valid as a usual PCR test (assuming the person got an adequate sample, which the test will report on). If it's done entirely at home it can't be a PCR test unless you happen to have an at-home thermocycler. That means that they will be rapid antigen tests, which are less sensitive and less specific than PCR tests. Exactly how sensitive they are depends on a few factors including the timing of the test compared to exposure, viral load, etc.
Ah, very good info, thanks! The at-home test I was looking at was an all do-it-at-home. I'm glad I went for the real deal. Very reassuring to get a much more trustworthy result.
And once again in this pandemic, you blink and things change!
Air Canada has just announced that they are launching a pilot (ha ha) program to provide at-home tests for travelers so that they do not have the stress of trying to access timely testing when they are traveling. This includes an at-home test suitable for flying back to Canada. Canadian border security does not permit the use of rapid antigen tests so returning travelers have been pretty much restricted to PCR tests. However, the government website does say that acceptable alternatives include RT-LAMP tests (reverse transcriptase loop-mediated isothermal amplification), which amplifies available genetic material in a similar way to PCR but which can be provided in a self test kit.
It looks like completion of the test will require it be observed via video link with a technician, in much the same way that the current Day 8 tests are done.
Projected cost is pricier than the usual antigen test but less than many private labs have been charging.
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Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
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Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
How's by you?
I ignore all of those people - one of the people on the BoE ballot for local elections ran on "Free our Kids from Masks" hilariousness. Made it an easy choice not to consider him for my vote.
The kids don't much care about the masks, the agenda driven adults do.
Covid deniers have no place in any conversation space with me - it is a non-starter. You deny the facts you cannot have discourse.
Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. My opinion is that Covid deniers are unworthy of having any voice.
Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
How's by you?
Nothing here in Virginia. Not even a campaign issue for governor race. Being anti mask will lose an election.
Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
How's by you?
Parents and community members have been making a big stink about masks from the beginning here. They have fought mask mandates at every opportunity and our local school district has tried to ignore the Illinois State mask mandate twice. My wife resigned as student council sponsor due to the anti mask sentiment at the school district she teaches at. She planned on having the homecoming dance outside on the football field, so that they could be in compliance with the mandate and not have to wear masks. In the event of rain, the plan was to move it to a different day. It rained and they announced the date change. A shit show ensued with parents losing their minds and posting all sorts of disrespectful stuff on the student council Facebook page. Two members of the school board were some of the loudest complainers. The school board decided to overrule my wife and have the dance inside in the gym on the original date. They claimed they would be responsible for making sure masks were worn. My wife and her cosponsor resigned their sponsorship of the student council before the dance due to the treatment they were subjected to by the community and especially the school board members.
As a side note, the dance was held with "supervision" by the school board, and no masks were to be seen. So the way I look at it, either the school board members straight up lied and had no intention of enforcing mask wearing, or they are completely incompetent in their leadership ability. Another interesting note, over a dozen kids tested positive for COVID a week after the dance.
Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
How's by you?
Parents and community members have been making a big stink about masks from the beginning here. They have fought mask mandates at every opportunity and our local school district has tried to ignore the Illinois State mask mandate twice. My wife resigned as student council sponsor due to the anti mask sentiment at the school district she teaches at. She planned on having the homecoming dance outside on the football field, so that they could be in compliance with the mandate and not have to wear masks. In the event of rain, the plan was to move it to a different day. It rained and they announced the date change. A shit show ensued with parents losing their minds and posting all sorts of disrespectful stuff on the student council Facebook page. Two members of the school board were some of the loudest complainers. The school board decided to overrule my wife and have the dance inside in the gym on the original date. They claimed they would be responsible for making sure masks were worn. My wife and her cosponsor resigned their sponsorship of the student council before the dance due to the treatment they were subjected to by the community and especially the school board members.
As a side note, the dance was held with "supervision" by the school board, and no masks were to be seen. So the way I look at it, either the school board members straight up lied and had no intention of enforcing mask wearing, or they are completely incompetent in their leadership ability. Another interesting note, over a dozen kids tested positive for COVID a week after the dance.
Here on Long Island the "unmask our kids" volume is getting a little louder. More online discussions, signs in yards, shirts, yes shirts, all to display their dismay for masks.
How's by you?
Parents and community members have been making a big stink about masks from the beginning here. They have fought mask mandates at every opportunity and our local school district has tried to ignore the Illinois State mask mandate twice. My wife resigned as student council sponsor due to the anti mask sentiment at the school district she teaches at. She planned on having the homecoming dance outside on the football field, so that they could be in compliance with the mandate and not have to wear masks. In the event of rain, the plan was to move it to a different day. It rained and they announced the date change. A shit show ensued with parents losing their minds and posting all sorts of disrespectful stuff on the student council Facebook page. Two members of the school board were some of the loudest complainers. The school board decided to overrule my wife and have the dance inside in the gym on the original date. They claimed they would be responsible for making sure masks were worn. My wife and her cosponsor resigned their sponsorship of the student council before the dance due to the treatment they were subjected to by the community and especially the school board members.
As a side note, the dance was held with "supervision" by the school board, and no masks were to be seen. So the way I look at it, either the school board members straight up lied and had no intention of enforcing mask wearing, or they are completely incompetent in their leadership ability. Another interesting note, over a dozen kids tested positive for COVID a week after the dance.
Did any of them catch the clap?
Unknown at this time, however the way she describes the way the kids dance, it is a distinct possibility.
Do kids in these areas with a large, vocal "unmask our kids" adult population actually complain about their masks? Or is it just the adults?
I mean, I complain about my masks all the time, but I still wear them anytime I'm indoors with children younger than 12.
You know who I've never heard complain around here, though? A single child. And as a baseball and hockey coach, I'm around kids a lot more than I'm around adults. I've got dozens of children practicing and playing balls-to-the-wall ice hockey in masks, which seems impossible to me, but I haven't heard a single gripe about it. Hell, I have a hard time wearing mine on the freaking bench; meanwhile, they're out there making plays.
our conservative premier "retired" a month ago. he actually was for all the vaccine mandates/passports, etc. now the two front runners to the leadership, chosen this coming saturday, one of them is opposed to vaccine mandates, one is not. (and there's no election: in a parliamentary system, if a leader resigns, the party retains power, and they choose their own replacement).
I'm not looking forward to this. if one of them repeals all the vaccine mandates in the province, I won't be going out again. probably to dinner, but concerts? not a fucking chance.
Despite all the encouraging news, one shadow still hangs over the U.S.: The pandemic does not need to be nearly as bad it is.
About 1,500 Americans have died of Covid every day over the past week. For older age groups, the virus remains a leading cause of death. And the main reason is that millions of Americans have chosen to remain unvaccinated. Many of them are older and have underlying medical conditions, leaving them vulnerable to severe versions of Covid.
For older people, the effects of vaccination are profound. In late August, near the height of the Delta wave, 24 out of every 10,000 unvaccinated Americans 65 and above were hospitalized with Covid symptoms, according to the C.D.C. Among fully vaccinated Americans 65 and above, the number was 1.5 per 10,000.
Even so, many Americans are saying no to a shot. Among affluent countries, the U.S. is one of the least vaccinated, trailing Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Britain, France, Germany, Italy and others. Less vaccination means more death:
(These Times maps show the vaccination rates for each country.)
The low vaccination rate in the U.S. is another consequence of our polarized politics and our high levels of socioeconomic inequality. Only 67 percent of American adults without a four-year college degree have received a shot, compared with 82 percent of college graduates, according to the most recent Kaiser Family Foundation poll. And only 58 percent of self-identified Republicans are vaccinated, compared with 90 percent of Democrats.
It’s a triumph of misinformation. Offered a lifesaving drug to counteract a highly contagious virus, many Americans are instead choosing to take their chances.
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https://www.travelweek.ca/news/air-canada-launches-portable-self-administered-covid-19-molecular-and-antigen-test-kits/
Air Canada has just announced that they are launching a pilot (ha ha) program to provide at-home tests for travelers so that they do not have the stress of trying to access timely testing when they are traveling. This includes an at-home test suitable for flying back to Canada. Canadian border security does not permit the use of rapid antigen tests so returning travelers have been pretty much restricted to PCR tests. However, the government website does say that acceptable alternatives include RT-LAMP tests (reverse transcriptase loop-mediated isothermal amplification), which amplifies available genetic material in a similar way to PCR but which can be provided in a self test kit.
It looks like completion of the test will require it be observed via video link with a technician, in much the same way that the current Day 8 tests are done.
Projected cost is pricier than the usual antigen test but less than many private labs have been charging.
Well, I guess. If you like to spray that up your nose and in your lungs.
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Although l would think all of these disinfectants, clorox, etc would kill covid on surfaces. Don't you think?
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As a side note, the dance was held with "supervision" by the school board, and no masks were to be seen. So the way I look at it, either the school board members straight up lied and had no intention of enforcing mask wearing, or they are completely incompetent in their leadership ability. Another interesting note, over a dozen kids tested positive for COVID a week after the dance.
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I mean, I complain about my masks all the time, but I still wear them anytime I'm indoors with children younger than 12.
You know who I've never heard complain around here, though? A single child. And as a baseball and hockey coach, I'm around kids a lot more than I'm around adults. I've got dozens of children practicing and playing balls-to-the-wall ice hockey in masks, which seems impossible to me, but I haven't heard a single gripe about it. Hell, I have a hard time wearing mine on the freaking bench; meanwhile, they're out there making plays.
I'm not looking forward to this. if one of them repeals all the vaccine mandates in the province, I won't be going out again. probably to dinner, but concerts? not a fucking chance.
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Agreed. The anti-mask movement is stupid. And it's a danger to self and others. 51-50 these idiots!
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