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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,869
    Its all vaccines.  Our  old and vulnerable  got pfizer then
     Middle  aged  AZ . Now  18 and up pfizer and  minimal moderna thats what we used in uk
     But all show similar results to delta. Mostly everyone i know double vaccinated  and our kids aged 19 and 22 are one dosed so far of pfizer
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.

    This article does a good job of explaining this a bit more and ends with this disclaimer:

    Hospitalisation data not a reason to doubt the vaccine
    Analysis by Thomas Moore, science correspondent

    The majority of people in hospital with COVID right now have been fully vaccinated.

    That will be a surprise to many people, despite the reassurance of the chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance that it's to be expected.

    But he's right.

    Firstly, two doses of the Pfizer jab are 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation. For the AstraZeneca shot the figure is 92%.

    So while the protection is high, it's not 100%.

    Secondly, the older you are the more likely it is that you will end up seriously ill if you get COVID.

    So if the virus does break through the protective barrier of the vaccine you are still more likely to end up in hospital if you are over 50.

    It's not a reason to doubt the vaccine.

    But it is a reason for everyone to get the jab and reduce levels of the virus spreading through the community. That would mean there's less risk to double-vaccinated, older people.

    The good news is that the death rate is still much lower than in previous waves - about one in 1000 infections leads to death now, compared to around one in 50 in January. That's partly down to the vaccine, but also better drug treatment for those in hospital.

    So even if double-vaccinated people are still ending up in hospital, they stand a much better chance of survival.


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:


    Post edited by Kat on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    How can both of these things be true?  The above about the UK and the message we are receiving in the states. 

    "A pandemic of the unvaccinated"





    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

    U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'


    More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    Post edited by Kat on
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:


    OMG THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE WHAT IS THE MORTALITY RATE?!?!


    Sir Patrick also said the vaccine is less effective at stopping people catching and spreading coronavirus that it is at preventing serious illness. 

    The government has justified easing measure by arguing that the vaccine program is helping to sever the link between catching the virus and serious illness and death. 


    ...oh...
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,869
    When the usa reaches 90-100% delta cases the  same thing  will be happening 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    How can both of these things be true?  The above about the UK and the message we are receiving in the states. 

    "A pandemic of the unvaccinated"





    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

    U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'


    More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.


    Seems pretty simple to understand to me. As I posted above in response to your Reuters sound byte on UK cases rising.
    Post edited by Kat on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Post edited by Kat on
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    Unfuckingreal.
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  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Posts: 1,024
    edited July 2021
    tbergs said:
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    This article does a good job of explaining this a bit more and ends with this disclaimer:

    Hospitalisation data not a reason to doubt the vaccine
    Analysis by Thomas Moore, science correspondent

    The majority of people in hospital with COVID right now have been fully vaccinated.

    That will be a surprise to many people, despite the reassurance of the chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance that it's to be expected.

    But he's right.

    Firstly, two doses of the Pfizer jab are 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation. For the AstraZeneca shot the figure is 92%.

    So while the protection is high, it's not 100%.

    Secondly, the older you are the more likely it is that you will end up seriously ill if you get COVID.

    So if the virus does break through the protective barrier of the vaccine you are still more likely to end up in hospital if you are over 50.

    It's not a reason to doubt the vaccine.

    But it is a reason for everyone to get the jab and reduce levels of the virus spreading through the community. That would mean there's less risk to double-vaccinated, older people.

    The good news is that the death rate is still much lower than in previous waves - about one in 1000 infections leads to death now, compared to around one in 50 in January. That's partly down to the vaccine, but also better drug treatment for those in hospital.

    So even if double-vaccinated people are still ending up in hospital, they stand a much better chance of survival.


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317
    When I opened the above link it said Vallance corrected himself. It's 60% UNVACCINATED.

    Earlier, Sir Patrick Vallance told a news briefing that figure was for double-jabbed people. But he later corrected himself on Twitter, saying the original statistic was false.

    He posted: "Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference today, 19 July.


    So then 40% of ppl hospitilized are double vaxxed? Even that number surprises me. I'd like to know how long after their 2nd shot they got sick.




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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Post edited by Kat on
  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Saw this tweet today and really loved the idea.  


  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?

    Well they're certainly not helping
    with anything
    at all
    a drag on society
    Post edited by Kat on
  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    edited July 2021
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    No, it was Faux News' fault.

    Fox has quietly implemented its own version of a vaccine passport while its top personalities attack them - CNN
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    Post edited by Kat on
  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    We're aware of that. If there is a next time, please be sure to correct or edit your post or make a new post or request your post be deleted with us so we don't need to do the correcting. Thank you.
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Kat said:
    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    We're aware of that. If there is a next time, please be sure to correct or edit your post or make a new post or request your post be deleted with us so we don't need to do the correcting. Thank you.
    I didn't know a correction was made until I saw the post above, which I thought did a good job of updating my original post.  

    Kind of dangerous being the misinformation police IMO.  At what point will the line be drawn?  Cincy's post above seems to be misinformation.  Will an update be coming to that?
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    It’s an editing extravaganza today!
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    hedonist said:
    It’s an editing extravaganza today!
    Editpalooza!
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Generally, it's a leading indicator, though, meaning that historically it gives us a good sense of where the economy is heading (given current conditions). 
    Post edited by Kat on
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    If you choose to not get vaccinated you have to be willing to deal with whatever happens. No matter how bad.
    Your body your choice
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Is Deathsantis out in front of the hospital in front of a bank of microphones deploring the hospital’s decision and how he’s going to execute an EO so visitors who want to see patients or random people with covid don’t lose their/there/they’re freedumbs?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Hate to look beyond one day but....

    Stock market is an indicator.  Plus we have all that data about the economy over the last 14 months when Covid was tearing through the population.  If it happens again, it most certainly will effect the economy again.  And the same people complaining about shutting down businesses etc will be to blame.  

    I think people not getting the vaccine are certainly the cause for the risk of the economy crashing again and for the fears related to it that was part of the cause for the stock market.  People know that there is a large cult group that will not get the vaccine until their Cult of Personality tells them too, and that ain't happening.  So they are concerned about the future.  
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Hate to look beyond one day but....

    Stock market is an indicator.  Plus we have all that data about the economy over the last 14 months when Covid was tearing through the population.  If it happens again, it most certainly will effect the economy again.  And the same people complaining about shutting down businesses etc will be to blame.  

    Thankful your retirement bounced back today!  What do you think caused the bounce today?  Dead cat bounce?  Unvaccinated getting vaccinated?  Economy all of a sudden back?  Maybe the stock market is just manipulated.  Dunno.  


    I think people not getting the vaccine are certainly the cause for the risk of the economy crashing again and for the fears related to it that was part of the cause for the stock market.  People know that there is a large cult group that will not get the vaccine until their Cult of Personality tells them too, and that ain't happening.  So they are concerned about the future.  

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Hate to look beyond one day but....

    Stock market is an indicator.  Plus we have all that data about the economy over the last 14 months when Covid was tearing through the population.  If it happens again, it most certainly will effect the economy again.  And the same people complaining about shutting down businesses etc will be to blame.  

    Thankful your retirement bounced back today!  What do you think caused the bounce today?  Dead cat bounce?  Unvaccinated getting vaccinated?  Economy all of a sudden back?  Maybe the stock market is just manipulated.  Dunno.  


    I think people not getting the vaccine are certainly the cause for the risk of the economy crashing again and for the fears related to it that was part of the cause for the stock market.  People know that there is a large cult group that will not get the vaccine until their Cult of Personality tells them too, and that ain't happening.  So they are concerned about the future.  

    Because POOTWH’s 25000+ previous lies and purposefully misleading statements don’t have influence. I wouldn’t do anything POOTWH recommended. He has zero credibility. Zero.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
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    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Hate to look beyond one day but....

    Stock market is an indicator.  Plus we have all that data about the economy over the last 14 months when Covid was tearing through the population.  If it happens again, it most certainly will effect the economy again.  And the same people complaining about shutting down businesses etc will be to blame.  

    Thankful your retirement bounced back today!  What do you think caused the bounce today?  Dead cat bounce?  Unvaccinated getting vaccinated?  Economy all of a sudden back?  Maybe the stock market is just manipulated.  Dunno.  


    I think people not getting the vaccine are certainly the cause for the risk of the economy crashing again and for the fears related to it that was part of the cause for the stock market.  People know that there is a large cult group that will not get the vaccine until their Cult of Personality tells them too, and that ain't happening.  So they are concerned about the future.  

    1) You again missed the point trying to make it about 1 day.

    2) trying to state an opinion on who would get vaccinated if trunk was President and play it off as real data is just really dumb. 

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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxholes. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxholes", is what caused the drop today?
    Hate to look beyond one day but....

    Stock market is an indicator.  Plus we have all that data about the economy over the last 14 months when Covid was tearing through the population.  If it happens again, it most certainly will effect the economy again.  And the same people complaining about shutting down businesses etc will be to blame.  

    Thankful your retirement bounced back today!  What do you think caused the bounce today?  Dead cat bounce?  Unvaccinated getting vaccinated?  Economy all of a sudden back?  Maybe the stock market is just manipulated.  Dunno.  


    I think people not getting the vaccine are certainly the cause for the risk of the economy crashing again and for the fears related to it that was part of the cause for the stock market.  People know that there is a large cult group that will not get the vaccine until their Cult of Personality tells them too, and that ain't happening.  So they are concerned about the future.  

    Because POOTWH’s 25000+ previous lies and purposefully misleading statements don’t have influence. I wouldn’t do anything POOTWH recommended. He has zero credibility. Zero.
    So the statement above is true with you - If DJT was still in office, boasting about the big, beautiful vaccine, you would not take it?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    But let’s repost tweets from a conspiracy theorist and claim accuracy of information. And he won’t be LECTURED. What a joke. 
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