Viruses / Vaccines

PJNB

Look at this. How is this not a miracle that more are focusing on? Yes there is long covid yes it still sucks if you get it for some but the vaccine works. If this data is not enough for some to finally get the shot nothing will be. At this point for me case numbers are becoming less relevant and deaths/hospitalizations are what I will be focusing on going further. Notice the big uptick in deaths with cases last September? That is not even close to an uptick this time around. 

Meltdown99

Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I understand that if fully vaccinated and get Covid it resembles a cold in most cases.  Is this true.  Because I can deal with a cold.  What I hate most of all is hospitals…I really do.  

oftenreading

PJNB said:

Look at this. How is this not a miracle that more are focusing on? Yes there is long covid yes it still sucks if you get it for some but the vaccine works. If this data is not enough for some to finally get the shot nothing will be. At this point for me case numbers are becoming less relevant and deaths/hospitalizations are what I will be focusing on going further. Notice the big uptick in deaths with cases last September? That is not even close to an uptick this time around. 

All of what you say is correct, with qualifications. The data definitely look good in places that have a highish  rate of vaccination, which include Canada and the UK. Unfortunately, Rob is correct that covid is going to rip through the US again, or at least the large chunks that are under vaccinated. Deaths are already up 23% in the last week. 

Globally, only 5 countries have 60% or higher of their total population fully vaccinated. That’s a sobering statistic for me. I am happy and grateful to live where I do, with its benefits of great vaccine availability and a mostly willing populace, and also worried for other areas. 

PJNB

oftenreading said:

PJNB said:

Look at this. How is this not a miracle that more are focusing on? Yes there is long covid yes it still sucks if you get it for some but the vaccine works. If this data is not enough for some to finally get the shot nothing will be. At this point for me case numbers are becoming less relevant and deaths/hospitalizations are what I will be focusing on going further. Notice the big uptick in deaths with cases last September? That is not even close to an uptick this time around. 

All of what you say is correct, with qualifications. The data definitely look good in places that have a highish  rate of vaccination, which include Canada and the UK. Unfortunately, Rob is correct that covid is going to rip through the US again, or at least the large chunks that are under vaccinated. Deaths are already up 23% in the last week. 

Globally, only 5 countries have 60% or higher of their total population fully vaccinated. That’s a sobering statistic for me. I am happy and grateful to live where I do, with its benefits of great vaccine availability and a mostly willing populace, and also worried for other areas. 

It is not about him or I being correct over one another. We both can be. Its about the focus of talk constantly in the negative and nothing on the positive. I know that the low vaccinated states in the US are going to have a hard time this fall. That is inevitable. 

rustneversleeps

PJNB said:

oftenreading said:

PJNB said:

Look at this. How is this not a miracle that more are focusing on? Yes there is long covid yes it still sucks if you get it for some but the vaccine works. If this data is not enough for some to finally get the shot nothing will be. At this point for me case numbers are becoming less relevant and deaths/hospitalizations are what I will be focusing on going further. Notice the big uptick in deaths with cases last September? That is not even close to an uptick this time around. 

All of what you say is correct, with qualifications. The data definitely look good in places that have a highish  rate of vaccination, which include Canada and the UK. Unfortunately, Rob is correct that covid is going to rip through the US again, or at least the large chunks that are under vaccinated. Deaths are already up 23% in the last week. 

Globally, only 5 countries have 60% or higher of their total population fully vaccinated. That’s a sobering statistic for me. I am happy and grateful to live where I do, with its benefits of great vaccine availability and a mostly willing populace, and also worried for other areas. 

It is not about him or I being correct over one another. We both can be. Its about the focus of talk constantly in the negative and nothing on the positive. I know that the low vaccinated states in the US are going to have a hard time this fall. That is inevitable. 

stop making sense...

oftenreading

PJNB said:

oftenreading said:

PJNB said:

Look at this. How is this not a miracle that more are focusing on? Yes there is long covid yes it still sucks if you get it for some but the vaccine works. If this data is not enough for some to finally get the shot nothing will be. At this point for me case numbers are becoming less relevant and deaths/hospitalizations are what I will be focusing on going further. Notice the big uptick in deaths with cases last September? That is not even close to an uptick this time around. 

All of what you say is correct, with qualifications. The data definitely look good in places that have a highish  rate of vaccination, which include Canada and the UK. Unfortunately, Rob is correct that covid is going to rip through the US again, or at least the large chunks that are under vaccinated. Deaths are already up 23% in the last week. 

Globally, only 5 countries have 60% or higher of their total population fully vaccinated. That’s a sobering statistic for me. I am happy and grateful to live where I do, with its benefits of great vaccine availability and a mostly willing populace, and also worried for other areas. 

It is not about him or I being correct over one another. We both can be. Its about the focus of talk constantly in the negative and nothing on the positive. I know that the low vaccinated states in the US are going to have a hard time this fall. That is inevitable. 

You don’t think there has been focus on the amazing effects of the vaccines? I am not seeing that. I think there’s been more of a tendency to dismiss the ongoing impact of the pandemic now that the vaccines are making such an impact. 

lastexitlondon

I guess i am negative as a person. 
Im worried. Like people  who can't  have the vaccines or that are on treatment  yesterday i found out 3 people i know have cancer  so i naturally  worried  about those people in this rapid spread.  To me its not all about  the vaccinated 

lastexitlondon

Also my kids work with the public and thier  mother wont  get vaccine. This  is a big worry for me. 
I do understand  the  good work  done as opposed to a year back.

Meltdown99

Yes a lot of good work has been done…I’m not sure there is a lot to be positive about in the bigger picture.  And Ontario’s CMO expects cases to rise in the fall and we are getting vaccinated here.  And to me, there is the unknown whether Covid causes long term effects 20 years down the road…so I prefer never to get it…

Merkin Baller

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Halifax2TheMax

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Notice he didn’t say Gestapo style. That’s because they are them.

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Notice he didn’t say Gestapo style. That’s because they are them.

they have the propaganda part down though.....

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Notice he didn’t say Gestapo style. That’s because they are them.

they have the propaganda part down though.....

Goebbels would be impressed. 

mickeyrat

Merkin Baller said:

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Notice he didn’t say Gestapo style. That’s because they are them.

they have the propaganda part down though.....

Goebbels would be impressed. 

oh IDK. My thinking is he would think what amateurs they are. Nazis got most of the country to go along.

only 25% of the population voted for fuckstick. believe a decent portion of those arent diehard and were appalled at Jan 6.

Hope so anyway....

Bentleyspop

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

The almighty $
And votes

JeBurkhardt

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Drilling for fear makes the job simple.

Poncier

Merkin Baller said:

They’re just telling bald faced lies at this point, wtf is the end game here?

Answer: what's the state with the worst Covid uptick currently...What is Missouri, Alex!

gvn2fly1421

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser

LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

"In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.

CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

https://twitter.com/uksciencechief/status/1417204235356213252

lastexitlondon

I did say this is serious. And that this is far from  over. But people seem to think im a dramatist 

Kat

I didn't see where that article specified which vaccines were in that statistic. I can't recall which ones were used mostly in UK. Be safe, get vaxxed because it helps even if it's not 100%. It's free and important.