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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    Its all vaccines.  Our  old and vulnerable  got pfizer then
     Middle  aged  AZ . Now  18 and up pfizer and  minimal moderna thats what we used in uk
     But all show similar results to delta. Mostly everyone i know double vaccinated  and our kids aged 19 and 22 are one dosed so far of pfizer


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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,408
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.

    This article does a good job of explaining this a bit more and ends with this disclaimer:

    Hospitalisation data not a reason to doubt the vaccine
    Analysis by Thomas Moore, science correspondent

    The majority of people in hospital with COVID right now have been fully vaccinated.

    That will be a surprise to many people, despite the reassurance of the chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance that it's to be expected.

    But he's right.

    Firstly, two doses of the Pfizer jab are 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation. For the AstraZeneca shot the figure is 92%.

    So while the protection is high, it's not 100%.

    Secondly, the older you are the more likely it is that you will end up seriously ill if you get COVID.

    So if the virus does break through the protective barrier of the vaccine you are still more likely to end up in hospital if you are over 50.

    It's not a reason to doubt the vaccine.

    But it is a reason for everyone to get the jab and reduce levels of the virus spreading through the community. That would mean there's less risk to double-vaccinated, older people.

    The good news is that the death rate is still much lower than in previous waves - about one in 1000 infections leads to death now, compared to around one in 50 in January. That's partly down to the vaccine, but also better drug treatment for those in hospital.

    So even if double-vaccinated people are still ending up in hospital, they stand a much better chance of survival.


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:


    Post edited by Kat on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    How can both of these things be true?  The above about the UK and the message we are receiving in the states. 

    "A pandemic of the unvaccinated"





    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

    U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'


    More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    Post edited by Kat on
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:


    OMG THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE WHAT IS THE MORTALITY RATE?!?!


    Sir Patrick also said the vaccine is less effective at stopping people catching and spreading coronavirus that it is at preventing serious illness. 

    The government has justified easing measure by arguing that the vaccine program is helping to sever the link between catching the virus and serious illness and death. 


    ...oh...
    Post edited by Kat on
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    When the usa reaches 90-100% delta cases the  same thing  will be happening 


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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,408
    edited July 2021
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    How can both of these things be true?  The above about the UK and the message we are receiving in the states. 

    "A pandemic of the unvaccinated"





    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

    U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'


    More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.


    Seems pretty simple to understand to me. As I posted above in response to your Reuters sound byte on UK cases rising.
    Post edited by Kat on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Unfuckingreal.
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    edited July 2021
    tbergs said:
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals had two COVID jabs - adviser


    LONDON, July 19 (Reuters) - Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said on Monday that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.

    "In terms of the number of people in hospital who've been double vaccinated, we know it's around 60% of the people being admitted to hospital with COVID," Vallance said.


    CORRECTION ADDED BY ADMIN:

    This article does a good job of explaining this a bit more and ends with this disclaimer:

    Hospitalisation data not a reason to doubt the vaccine
    Analysis by Thomas Moore, science correspondent

    The majority of people in hospital with COVID right now have been fully vaccinated.

    That will be a surprise to many people, despite the reassurance of the chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance that it's to be expected.

    But he's right.

    Firstly, two doses of the Pfizer jab are 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation. For the AstraZeneca shot the figure is 92%.

    So while the protection is high, it's not 100%.

    Secondly, the older you are the more likely it is that you will end up seriously ill if you get COVID.

    So if the virus does break through the protective barrier of the vaccine you are still more likely to end up in hospital if you are over 50.

    It's not a reason to doubt the vaccine.

    But it is a reason for everyone to get the jab and reduce levels of the virus spreading through the community. That would mean there's less risk to double-vaccinated, older people.

    The good news is that the death rate is still much lower than in previous waves - about one in 1000 infections leads to death now, compared to around one in 50 in January. That's partly down to the vaccine, but also better drug treatment for those in hospital.

    So even if double-vaccinated people are still ending up in hospital, they stand a much better chance of survival.


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317
    When I opened the above link it said Vallance corrected himself. It's 60% UNVACCINATED.

    Earlier, Sir Patrick Vallance told a news briefing that figure was for double-jabbed people. But he later corrected himself on Twitter, saying the original statistic was false.

    He posted: "Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference today, 19 July.


    So then 40% of ppl hospitilized are double vaxxed? Even that number surprises me. I'd like to know how long after their 2nd shot they got sick.




    Post edited by Kat on
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Post edited by Kat on
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Saw this tweet today and really loved the idea.  


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?

    Well they're certainly not helping
    with anything
    at all
    a drag on society
    Post edited by Kat on
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited July 2021
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    No, it was Faux News' fault.

    Fox has quietly implemented its own version of a vaccine passport while its top personalities attack them - CNN
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited July 2021
    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    Post edited by Kat on
  • Kat
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    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    We're aware of that. If there is a next time, please be sure to correct or edit your post or make a new post or request your post be deleted with us so we don't need to do the correcting. Thank you.
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  • gvn2fly1421
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    Kat said:
    Kat said:
    Thank you, RunIntoTheRain. It's important that we're not spreading misinformation here. 
    For the record Kat, I was not trying to spread misinformation at all.  At one time, everything I posted was true.  Until, it wasn't. 
    We're aware of that. If there is a next time, please be sure to correct or edit your post or make a new post or request your post be deleted with us so we don't need to do the correcting. Thank you.
    I didn't know a correction was made until I saw the post above, which I thought did a good job of updating my original post.  

    Kind of dangerous being the misinformation police IMO.  At what point will the line be drawn?  Cincy's post above seems to be misinformation.  Will an update be coming to that?
  • hedonist
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    It’s an editing extravaganza today!
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    hedonist said:
    It’s an editing extravaganza today!
    Editpalooza!
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  • dankind
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    edited July 2021
    It’s just great seeing the economy beginning to tank again due to Anti-Vaxxers. This ain’t hard people. And I’d like to keep my retirement savings intact please, do you?
     
    Get the damn shot. 
    Hate to veer off topic, but the stock market does not equal the economy.

    To get back on topic somewhat, do you honestly think the delta variant, or the "Anti-Vaxxers", is what caused the drop today?
    Generally, it's a leading indicator, though, meaning that historically it gives us a good sense of where the economy is heading (given current conditions). 
    Post edited by Kat on
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