2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!

mcgruff10

ComeToTX said:

mcgruff10 said:

ComeToTX said:

mcgruff10 said:

I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  

i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.

Even if they do add some shows You get to travel to two great beach destinations, be happy not annoyed.  

Everything annoys me!

I am pumped though. Especially to see the first show back. 

If they play Austin I'll buy you beers until you aren't annoyed anymore. 
Where are you staying in Jersey?

JR86440

Still think they play Apollo right before SHN.. Makes perfect sense

Vedd Hedd

JeBurkhardt said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Just looking at the top 5 states by population, and their 7 day moving averages....until Florida stopped reporting...because "Everything is fine now!"


California  950
Texas 1400
Florida this was around 1700-2000 before they stopped reporting. 
New York    750
Illinois    420

Louisiana, so their numbers by 7 day average are strange, because they dont seem to report on some days....so they will go from 900 to 400 and bounce around from there. Doesnt sound like much, but considering they are the 25th most populated state....and their region is generally a less vaccinated region....

Play Southern Illinois at Saluki Stadium in Carbondale! It stays pretty temperate downstate until later in the Fall than the Chicago area. 

That would be cool. Wont ever happen, but...hey, they played Champaign! dare to dream. 

Vedd Hedd

mcgruff10 said:

I would love to visit alpine valley again in september. 

Agreed

tschav

Vedd Hedd said:

mcgruff10 said:

I would love to visit alpine valley again in september. 

Agreed

Already got my Ohana trip booked but I'd be more than happy to go back there again. PJ20 10th Anniversary!

OceansJenny

pbultimate said:

I have a hotel booked for all of March. 

This is why PJ can’t announce any non-definite plans 😂 or leak a single morsel of info.

Isnt the hotel going to think you’re a long term stay with a 30-day booking? Or did you split among a few hotels?

ComeToTX

mcgruff10 said:

ComeToTX said:

mcgruff10 said:

ComeToTX said:

mcgruff10 said:

I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  

i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.

Even if they do add some shows You get to travel to two great beach destinations, be happy not annoyed.  

Everything annoys me!

I am pumped though. Especially to see the first show back. 

If they play Austin I'll buy you beers until you aren't annoyed anymore. 
Where are you staying in Jersey?

East Windsor…didn’t decide to go until last week. 

HughFreakingDillon

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

RatherStarved

Vedd Hedd said:

JeBurkhardt said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Just looking at the top 5 states by population, and their 7 day moving averages....until Florida stopped reporting...because "Everything is fine now!"


California  950
Texas 1400
Florida this was around 1700-2000 before they stopped reporting. 
New York    750
Illinois    420

Louisiana, so their numbers by 7 day average are strange, because they dont seem to report on some days....so they will go from 900 to 400 and bounce around from there. Doesnt sound like much, but considering they are the 25th most populated state....and their region is generally a less vaccinated region....

Play Southern Illinois at Saluki Stadium in Carbondale! It stays pretty temperate downstate until later in the Fall than the Chicago area. 

That would be cool. Wont ever happen, but...hey, they played Champaign! dare to dream. 

I had tickets to the 2017 eclipse at Saluki stadium but ended up going somewhere else due to clouds.  

PJNB

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Weston1283

Well… Foo Fighters had zero trouble selling out MSG today

the demand is as high as ever 

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

DM282158

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

Seems like artists/performers follow venue guidelines/protocols. And venues follow state/municipality guidelines/protocols. I’m not aware of all states, but seems like New York is the only one? to require vax proof or negative test. To compare anyway - here in Mass, which hasn’t been one of the most restrictive states all along - nothing like that at venues, large and small. 

HughFreakingDillon

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

Seems like artists/performers follow venue guidelines/protocols. And venues follow state/municipality guidelines/protocols. I’m not aware of all states, but seems like New York is the only one? to require vax proof or negative test. To compare anyway - here in Mass, which hasn’t been one of the most restrictive states all along - nothing like that at venues, large and small. 

True, but artists as big as PJ can also have a big influence on decisions like these. and they were one of the first bands to cancel. so they'll be the most restrictive and/or the last to get back out there into closed sheds. 

PJNB

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

Seems like artists/performers follow venue guidelines/protocols. And venues follow state/municipality guidelines/protocols. I’m not aware of all states, but seems like New York is the only one? to require vax proof or negative test. To compare anyway - here in Mass, which hasn’t been one of the most restrictive states all along - nothing like that at venues, large and small. 

True, but artists as big as PJ can also have a big influence on decisions like these. and they were one of the first bands to cancel. so they'll be the most restrictive and/or the last to get back out there into closed sheds. 

We are roughly 300 days until March. The only scenarios I see happening are no shows or no vaccination needed at that point. No shows means shit hit the fan again. No vaxx needed means we have controlled the virus enough to be back to normal. Vaccinations needed for shows this summer makes sense to me. Also by March next year we will be running into the issue of boosters and what is needed and when it is needed complicating things even further. I obviously have no idea where we will be in March I just do not see it happening myself. 

pbultimate

OceansJenny said:

pbultimate said:

I have a hotel booked for all of March. 

This is why PJ can’t announce any non-definite plans 😂 or leak a single morsel of info.

Isnt the hotel going to think you’re a long term stay with a 30-day booking? Or did you split among a few hotels?

Weekly bookings!

im joking. But im sure some nut here has done it. 

lastexit78

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

Seems like artists/performers follow venue guidelines/protocols. And venues follow state/municipality guidelines/protocols. I’m not aware of all states, but seems like New York is the only one? to require vax proof or negative test. To compare anyway - here in Mass, which hasn’t been one of the most restrictive states all along - nothing like that at venues, large and small. 

True, but artists as big as PJ can also have a big influence on decisions like these. and they were one of the first bands to cancel. so they'll be the most restrictive and/or the last to get back out there into closed sheds. 

We are roughly 300 days until March. The only scenarios I see happening are no shows or no vaccination needed at that point. No shows means shit hit the fan again. No vaxx needed means we have controlled the virus enough to be back to normal. Vaccinations needed for shows this summer makes sense to me. Also by March next year we will be running into the issue of boosters and what is needed and when it is needed complicating things even further. I obviously have no idea where we will be in March I just do not see it happening myself. 

Agree 100% and I'm cool waiting it out. If we can't attend shows in a normal manner by the spring of 2022 something went seriously wrong. Which at this point wouldn't be a shock after what we've been through. Still don't see that being the likely outcome though. I'm as frustrated as anyone being fully vaccinated for two months and ready to return to normal. But there are a lot of factors that would prevent the band from wanting to travel the US anytime in 2021. This virus is going to linger, likely forever since vax rates will never eclipse 70% and natural infection is slowing dramatically. But even here in CA we are being given the rights to make our own decision as the state fully opens next week. I've said it before, it comes down to personal accountability. I don't belittle every smoker I see, people should be able to make their own decisions. Just look at the average Americans diet. Should we stop selling alcohol at venues going forward? Fans are more likely to die via DUI after a show than to contract and die from COVID. Requiring vaccination to attend events is a poor look unless forced to by city/state rules. The Foo Fighters got a lot of press today because of the MSG show and requiring vaxx. It was literally on every major news outlet this morning. I don't think PJ wants to get involved in this fight. Especially say a guy like Jeff who would probably rather be hiking than traveling around the US trying to determine what the crowd they are playing to on any given night is or is not allowed to do. 

Lerxst1992

lastexit78 said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think test positivity is going to matter when they decide to tour. they will be one of the bands to require vaxx proof and it won't even happen until the test positivity is so low it's not even on the news anymore. 

I do not see there being any chance at needing vaxx proof next March for a Pearl Jam show.

Why not? this thing ain't going away any time soon. 

Seems like artists/performers follow venue guidelines/protocols. And venues follow state/municipality guidelines/protocols. I’m not aware of all states, but seems like New York is the only one? to require vax proof or negative test. To compare anyway - here in Mass, which hasn’t been one of the most restrictive states all along - nothing like that at venues, large and small. 

True, but artists as big as PJ can also have a big influence on decisions like these. and they were one of the first bands to cancel. so they'll be the most restrictive and/or the last to get back out there into closed sheds. 

We are roughly 300 days until March. The only scenarios I see happening are no shows or no vaccination needed at that point. No shows means shit hit the fan again. No vaxx needed means we have controlled the virus enough to be back to normal. Vaccinations needed for shows this summer makes sense to me. Also by March next year we will be running into the issue of boosters and what is needed and when it is needed complicating things even further. I obviously have no idea where we will be in March I just do not see it happening myself. 

Agree 100% and I'm cool waiting it out. If we can't attend shows in a normal manner by the spring of 2022 something went seriously wrong. Which at this point wouldn't be a shock after what we've been through. Still don't see that being the likely outcome though. I'm as frustrated as anyone being fully vaccinated for two months and ready to return to normal. But there are a lot of factors that would prevent the band from wanting to travel the US anytime in 2021. This virus is going to linger, likely forever since vax rates will never eclipse 70% and natural infection is slowing dramatically. But even here in CA we are being given the rights to make our own decision as the state fully opens next week. I've said it before, it comes down to personal accountability. I don't belittle every smoker I see, people should be able to make their own decisions. Just look at the average Americans diet. Should we stop selling alcohol at venues going forward? Fans are more likely to die via DUI after a show than to contract and die from COVID. Requiring vaccination to attend events is a poor look unless forced to by city/state rules. The Foo Fighters got a lot of press today because of the MSG show and requiring vaxx. It was literally on every major news outlet this morning. I don't think PJ wants to get involved in this fight. Especially say a guy like Jeff who would probably rather be hiking than traveling around the US trying to determine what the crowd they are playing to on any given night is or is not allowed to do. 

Spring 2022 may be the target date for a “normal” indoor tour. International travel before then is risky, as opening of borders before then could be shut with no warning. UK cases have tripled in the past few weeks with the delta strain while UK vaccine  rates are excellent- well above those in the conservative US states, almost all of which are under 50% for one dose. Hospitalizations are up in five conservative states right now. With covid, It’s not the death of concert goers, it’s a chain that’s created at an event that could lead to dangerous conditions for older folks and possibly younger ones if the delta progresses. A DUI happens because a drinker can’t control themselves and that next drink is coming no matter what, not because a band brings hundreds of thousands of fans together from around the country in an indoor arena for four hours. Alot of states are doing fantastically well with the vax, but to do an arena tour they would likely need to venture throughout the US into unfortunately uncomfortable covid territory.  IMO the two festivals could be supplemented by 5-10 outdoor late summer / early fall US dates. This is optimistic and I hope it happens . Let’s see how the low vaccine states do as their peak indoor summer season progresses. And hopefully enough people in the US and worldwide get the vaccine, this disaster is really behind us and the cautious bands start touring again in 2022. PJ determined their own health guidelines before cities and states at the beginning of this mess, not sure why they would change that now

Weston1283

Still must be fun to be a Foo Fighters fan…

OceansJenny

pbultimate said:

OceansJenny said:

pbultimate said:

I have a hotel booked for all of March. 

This is why PJ can’t announce any non-definite plans 😂 or leak a single morsel of info.

Isnt the hotel going to think you’re a long term stay with a 30-day booking? Or did you split among a few hotels?

Weekly bookings!

im joking. But im sure some nut here has done it. 

😂 I 100% believed you