2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!

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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,770
    kaw753 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Remember when McCready was saying they hadn’t had much going on with the record and then it was announced shortly after.  They are smart enough to talk about only what is public.  

    Hoping for a few more shows this fall.
    As a business, there is close to a 0% chance that these guys are rehearsing, packing up their equipment, paying the guitar/drum techs, and flying to New Jersey for a single show when equivalent bands are playing arenas down the street.  They would have just cancelled Sea Hear Now, as anybody would think is reasonable given the global pandemic and all.

    As this is the rumour thread, maybe they are taking their time because they are trying to figure out how to swap 10c tickets in an arena for equivalent seats in an amphitheater? 
    Or waiting to see if the G7 summit unlocks international travel between Canada, US, EU and UK.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    bootlegger10 said:
    Remember when McCready was saying they hadn’t had much going on with the record and then it was announced shortly after.  They are smart enough to talk about only what is public.  

    Hoping for a few more shows this fall.
    I thought of this as well. However, whereas Ed is the driving force behind them getting an album done, it kinda feels like Jeff is the driving force behind them not touring a lot. I believe he has made comments like this before. 
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    kaw753 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Remember when McCready was saying they hadn’t had much going on with the record and then it was announced shortly after.  They are smart enough to talk about only what is public.  

    Hoping for a few more shows this fall.
    As a business, there is close to a 0% chance that these guys are rehearsing, packing up their equipment, paying the guitar/drum techs, and flying to New Jersey for a single show when equivalent bands are playing arenas down the street.  They would have just cancelled Sea Hear Now, as anybody would think is reasonable given the global pandemic and all.

    As this is the rumour thread, maybe they are taking their time because they are trying to figure out how to swap 10c tickets in an arena for equivalent seats in an amphitheater? 

    As a business, they are making more than enough money to cover their costs.  Stone also said that the first order of business would be meeting their obligations for postponed shows.  SHN falls into that category. Why would they cancel it? Next will be the arena dates when the band feels it is safe to play indoors. Jeff mentioned that it is unlikely to happen this year.
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    wbutler29 said:
    Peyton18 said:
    Just saw that Voodoo Fest is rescheduling for next year! Pretty surprised about that one
    They probably don't want to compete with Jazz Fest this year . . . 
    I know Louisiana has high positivity rates, too.  That probably isnt helping. 
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    There is no way I would be scheduling shows for Florida, Louisiana, or Texas at this point, with their positivity rates so high.  Other states are seeing huge decreases in rates, so I could see them targeting those.  If people get more vaxxed, keep wearing masks, and get those positivity rates down, I could see more shows considered for those areas. 

    People will be travelling anyway, so some people will be coming from those high positivity states.  But workers, band, etc...they would all need to come into contact with more people that have higher positivity rates. 

    People like to compare california to those states, but the california population is so much higher, its not really comparable.  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited June 2021
    I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    All the more reason to play New England. :smiley:
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    JimmyV said:
    All the more reason to play New England. :smiley:
    I m there if it happens.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,140
    Vedd Hedd said:
    There is no way I would be scheduling shows for Florida, Louisiana, or Texas at this point, with their positivity rates so high.  Other states are seeing huge decreases in rates, so I could see them targeting those.  If people get more vaxxed, keep wearing masks, and get those positivity rates down, I could see more shows considered for those areas. 

    People will be travelling anyway, so some people will be coming from those high positivity states.  But workers, band, etc...they would all need to come into contact with more people that have higher positivity rates. 

    People like to compare california to those states, but the california population is so much higher, its not really comparable.  
    Got to stick up for FL. We were able to provide vaccines to all ages much quicker than other states like PA, and it looks like new cases are trending down. I would bet most of the populated counties have high rates of vaccinated people versus the rural areas. We had huge events in Tampa (Wrestlemania, Super Bowl) and outdoor sports parades for the Lightning and Buccaneers championships. There was not a spike after those events. 

    FL, LA and TX would be the ideal locations for outdoor shows in October to December. Great weather, lower chances of hurricanes. 
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Just looking at the top 5 states by population, and their 7 day moving averages....until Florida stopped reporting...because "Everything is fine now!"


    California  950
    Texas 1400
    Florida this was around 1700-2000 before they stopped reporting. 
    New York    750
    Illinois    420

    Louisiana, so their numbers by 7 day average are strange, because they dont seem to report on some days....so they will go from 900 to 400 and bounce around from there. Doesnt sound like much, but considering they are the 25th most populated state....and their region is generally a less vaccinated region....
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    hihobibo said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    There is no way I would be scheduling shows for Florida, Louisiana, or Texas at this point, with their positivity rates so high.  Other states are seeing huge decreases in rates, so I could see them targeting those.  If people get more vaxxed, keep wearing masks, and get those positivity rates down, I could see more shows considered for those areas. 

    People will be travelling anyway, so some people will be coming from those high positivity states.  But workers, band, etc...they would all need to come into contact with more people that have higher positivity rates. 

    People like to compare california to those states, but the california population is so much higher, its not really comparable.  
    Got to stick up for FL. We were able to provide vaccines to all ages much quicker than other states like PA, and it looks like new cases are trending down. I would bet most of the populated counties have high rates of vaccinated people versus the rural areas. We had huge events in Tampa (Wrestlemania, Super Bowl) and outdoor sports parades for the Lightning and Buccaneers championships. There was not a spike after those events. 

    FL, LA and TX would be the ideal locations for outdoor shows in October to December. Great weather, lower chances of hurricanes. 
    Part of Florida's problem is that they are adjacent to other states that dont have high vax rates, and Florida has been a destination for vacationers.  You are correct, they were trending down....but they stopped reporting....my guess is because they knew that schools were out and more and more people were going to travel and the rates were going to just naturally go up.  Agreed about the counties, and agreed about the idea that FL, TX and LA would be good locations for outdoor shows in late fall....if those numbers keep trending...but now there is no way to know what is happening in florida.  And Texas and LA arent trending down so much as holding steady.  
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    The other thing to consider....California, New York and Illinois have larger mask-wearing populations.  Florida, Texas and Louisiana seem to have lower mask-wearing populations. 

    A friend was driving through Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, and Illinois recently and said that in most stores and gas stations, Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee have very lower rates of people wearing masks, if at all.  Then when getting into Illinois, even in the more rural areas, there were generally more people wearing masks. 

    It's all anecdotal evidence, so it could be nothing, but I seem to experience similar things when I was recently in indiana and ohio, versus Illinois. 
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Just looking at the top 5 states by population, and their 7 day moving averages....until Florida stopped reporting...because "Everything is fine now!"


    California  950
    Texas 1400
    Florida this was around 1700-2000 before they stopped reporting. 
    New York    750
    Illinois    420

    Louisiana, so their numbers by 7 day average are strange, because they dont seem to report on some days....so they will go from 900 to 400 and bounce around from there. Doesnt sound like much, but considering they are the 25th most populated state....and their region is generally a less vaccinated region....
    Play Southern Illinois at Saluki Stadium in Carbondale! It stays pretty temperate downstate until later in the Fall than the Chicago area. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    I would love to visit alpine valley again in september.  :)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,063
    mcgruff10 said:
    I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  
    i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited June 2021
    "It will be fun, but we have to get the “Gigaton” songs back into shape, and then there will be probably another week of touching on 50 or 60 songs just to come up with a couple set lists for these two shows"

    Specifically mentions only two shows here. Not much info out there and yes interviews from band members have, intentionally or not, threw us off in the past but at face value reading that quote this is it for this year. I was hoping for a Saturday night PJ set for Ohana and while that can still happen I am definitely less sure of it happening now. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    ComeToTX said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  
    i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.
    Even if they do add some shows You get to travel to two great beach destinations, be happy not annoyed.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    The more shows the better, but the two festivals and 2022 has always been the most likely scenario. 
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,063
    mcgruff10 said:
    ComeToTX said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  
    i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.
    Even if they do add some shows You get to travel to two great beach destinations, be happy not annoyed.  
    Everything annoys me!

    I am pumped though. Especially to see the first show back. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    mcgruff10 said:
    ComeToTX said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I really hope they add shows around shn and ohana.  
    i'd be a little annoyed at this point since i've already booked my travel to both.
    Even if they do add some shows You get to travel to two great beach destinations, be happy not annoyed.  
    I would be happily going to one, probably SHN since it is closer to Illinois, to enjoy the beach and music if they weren't both scheduled until after the school year starts. Sometimes having a wife who is a teacher throws a monkeywrench into travel plans.

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