Will we get live PJ shows, as we knew them, in 2021?

matt84

No

There’s not even a slight chance Europe will happen this summer. Ohana and Sea Hear Now have a very small % of going ahead. 

After today’s news in the UK (lockdown likely to last til March), they might as well cancel the Hyde Park shows now.

RatherStarved

Just like airport security changed forever after 9/11, I think large events will always be at least a little different in the future.  

Weston1283

Yes

I have to wonder how Ohana and more so Sea.Hear.Now will end up

I think festivals and concerts in general may be OK to go in Fall of 2021 as everyone who wants a vaccine should have one by then.

My question is what will happen when Sea.Hear.Now says "Lets do this everyone else is going again" but the band says "we aren't playing shows in 2021".... if its a smaller act it doesn't matter, but as far as im concerned for 2021, no Pearl Jam means no Sea.Hear.Now

Eddie has more control over Ohana so that would be easier to postpone again if the band wishes to do so

A LOT, A LOT can happen in 9 months.  9 months from now is October 4th.  Imagine where we were 9 months ago with this thing, and now were entering a second phase of vaccinations.  The band may not feel comfortable but id be willing to bet that sports and concerts in general are back by October/November, if not even late summer

TH113769

Yes

Yes - there will be a tour in the Fall.  I'm going to take the positive attitude - Everyone that wants to be vaccinated will be able to by June / July.   

eeriepadave

There's hope

https://www.nme.com/news/music/tens-of-thousands-attend-new-zealand-festivals-without-having-to-socially-distance-2849016?fbclid=IwAR16V4s_1aKUwraEp6xOazkWcHiAWFfel5YS5twRAOWJAhMhukaORoMBvbM

BlueLedbetter

Was still hopeful until recently now dont see the euro shows going ahead unfortunately just a few months too soon I think for the vaccines to have been rolled out enough 

ComeToTX

Yes

Hopeful. 

pdalowsky

No

IF the shows go ahead that will be a massive bonus....thats how I'm going to look at them from this point. Unlikely but a massive bonus if they go ahead unexpectedly.

Merkin Baller

No

Optimism is great & all... but we'll be lucky if we get concerts here in the US by 2022. 

This is a long read, but well worth it IMO: 

https://twonursestalking.substack.com/p/covid-fox-news-america-and-me

Eraserhead

No

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

pjl44

Yes

Eraserhead said:

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

The festival industry is lobbying the government for aid. The headline makes it seem more dramatic. 

F Me In The Brain

No

I feel like we see the same results or commentary we saw last year in the threads about Sea Hear and Ohana. 

Interesting to see how people land on this and I understand most perspectives...the only one that I scratch my head about is the one where people say they are optimists and therefore answer yes.  I type this as an optimist.  If what I can find to be fact leads me somewhere, that is how I think.  Being an optimist won't impact that. 

Oh well, whatever works best for each of us -- hopefully we are all healthy and provided opportunities to return to desired group activities faster than I believe we will be.  Seeing Pearl Jam again is going to be loads of fun -- seeing my friends around the show will be the best part, and I can wait as long as needed in order for everyone to be safe.

Eraserhead

No

pjl44 said:

Eraserhead said:

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

The festival industry is lobbying the government for aid. The headline makes it seem more dramatic. 

They can lobby until the cows come home, but until the virus is gone and everyone has had a vacine, mass gatherings for music will not take place any time soon.

pjl44

Yes

F Me In The Brain said:

I feel like we see the same results or commentary we saw last year in the threads about Sea Hear and Ohana. 

Interesting to see how people land on this and I understand most perspectives...the only one that I scratch my head about is the one where people say they are optimists and therefore answer yes.  I type this as an optimist.  If what I can find to be fact leads me somewhere, that is how I think.  Being an optimist won't impact that. 

Oh well, whatever works best for each of us -- hopefully we are all healthy and provided opportunities to return to desired group activities faster than I believe we will be.  Seeing Pearl Jam again is going to be loads of fun -- seeing my friends around the show will be the best part, and I can wait as long as needed in order for everyone to be safe.

For me, it's optimism that we'll stay on the path we're on without any curveballs. If we do, shows should go on.

The difference with the threads from last year is that optimism meant hoping something miraculous would happen. In that case the path we were on was clearly pointing to No.

PJNB

Eraserhead said:

pjl44 said:

Eraserhead said:

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

The festival industry is lobbying the government for aid. The headline makes it seem more dramatic. 

They can lobby until the cows come home, but until the virus is gone and everyone has had a vacine, mass gatherings for music will not take place any time soon.

This virus will never be gone and everyone is not getting vaccinated. Not even close. Look at the numbers of health professionals that are already denying taking the vaccine on the first roll out. When the general public has its chance too the numbers will be even higher. What then? 

It is obvious that we are at the mercy of the government and health officials that will be making this call but if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is and our hospitals are not struggling what are we waiting for?

F Me In The Brain

No

pjl44 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I feel like we see the same results or commentary we saw last year in the threads about Sea Hear and Ohana. 

Interesting to see how people land on this and I understand most perspectives...the only one that I scratch my head about is the one where people say they are optimists and therefore answer yes.  I type this as an optimist.  If what I can find to be fact leads me somewhere, that is how I think.  Being an optimist won't impact that. 

Oh well, whatever works best for each of us -- hopefully we are all healthy and provided opportunities to return to desired group activities faster than I believe we will be.  Seeing Pearl Jam again is going to be loads of fun -- seeing my friends around the show will be the best part, and I can wait as long as needed in order for everyone to be safe.

For me, it's optimism that we'll stay on the path we're on without any curveballs. If we do, shows should go on.

The difference with the threads from last year is that optimism meant hoping something miraculous would happen. In that case the path we were on was clearly pointing to No.

Fair enough. 

I hope I am incorrect and everything gets better, quickly.

Weston1283

Yes

PJNB said:

Eraserhead said:

pjl44 said:

Eraserhead said:

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

The festival industry is lobbying the government for aid. The headline makes it seem more dramatic. 

They can lobby until the cows come home, but until the virus is gone and everyone has had a vacine, mass gatherings for music will not take place any time soon.

This virus will never be gone and everyone is not getting vaccinated. Not even close. Look at the numbers of health professionals that are already denying taking the vaccine on the first roll out. When the general public has its chance too the numbers will be even higher. What then? 

It is obvious that we are at the mercy of the government and health officials that will be making this call but if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is and our hospitals are not struggling what are we waiting for?

This.  We won’t be able to force anyone to get a vaccine for many many years since the FDA has only authorized for emergency use.  Even In the hospital I’m at, doctors and nurses have full freedom to opt out

If vaccines are readily available to anyone who wants them in June/July, then that’s when we can get back

The idea of “everyone” being vaccinated will never come to life.  It will be “everyone who wants to be” vaccinated being vaccinated that will get us back to normal.

bbiggs

No

PJNB said:

Eraserhead said:

pjl44 said:

Eraserhead said:

No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55536355

The festival industry is lobbying the government for aid. The headline makes it seem more dramatic. 

They can lobby until the cows come home, but until the virus is gone and everyone has had a vacine, mass gatherings for music will not take place any time soon.

This virus will never be gone and everyone is not getting vaccinated. Not even close. Look at the numbers of health professionals that are already denying taking the vaccine on the first roll out. When the general public has its chance too the numbers will be even higher. What then? 

It is obvious that we are at the mercy of the government and health officials that will be making this call but if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is and our hospitals are not struggling what are we waiting for?

Good points and agree.  There will come a time in the not too distant future that everyone who is going to get the vaccine has gotten it, and at that point, it's time to move forward.

Weston1283

Yes

This is the timeline for Massachusetts.  Even if this gets delayed and let’s call the last phase June-August, I really believe everyone who wants a vaccine can get there by October and concerts in Q4 of 2021 can happen

bbiggs

No

One thing that concerns me is the government (federal and/or state) continuing to intervene once we've reached a point that everyone that wants a vaccination has received one.  There is a large percentage of the population that is opting against it, at least thus far.  Even if vaccination timelines are met (big if), there could very well be upwards of 50% of the population that has not gotten it, and won't.  So then what?  The virus will still present on a larger scale than what they're hoping for.  In that case, I don't see concerts happening anytime soon, but of course I hope to be wrong.