Will we get live PJ shows, as we knew them, in 2021?
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We basically know they won't tour until it's absolutely 100% safe and all doubt is gone. They haven't come out and so, but given what we know about songs being paused halfway through and the band being one of the first to announce a postponement...
House money says no.
I'm thinking at least 3-4 months between the announcement and the first show, right? We could be well into June or July before "regular people" are eligible for the vaccines.
At a "best-case scenario" I'm thinking it could be October and we get a tour.
At this point, I'm hoping they're sharing ideas virtually. They don't all need to be together to record their own parts. I'm not optimistic, but why not tour two albums together?Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
NoNopeChicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/160
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NoUnfortunately my gut says no. I don’t see europe happening or sea hear now. 2022 will be good to all of us.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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My answer is maybe. If things go well with the vaccines maybe at the end of the year.Best case scenario is the vaccines work and people that want them have them by the end of the summer. That could lead to some fall dates.I give it 30/70 change of seeing some dates by the end of the year.0
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No9/4/18 last live show. If what most of us think comes true then we’ll be staring down close to a 4 year hiatus. Damn.0
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YesLost In Ohio said:We basically know they won't tour until it's absolutely 100% safe and all doubt is gone. They haven't come out and so, but given what we know about songs being paused halfway through and the band being one of the first to announce a postponement...
House money says no.
I'm thinking at least 3-4 months between the announcement and the first show, right? We could be well into June or July before "regular people" are eligible for the vaccines.
At a "best-case scenario" I'm thinking it could be October and we get a tour.
At this point, I'm hoping they're sharing ideas virtually. They don't all need to be together to record their own parts. I'm not optimistic, but why not tour two albums together?
Beyond what's already booked, I can see touring in general being scattershot out of the gate. It probably won't feel like a traditional Pearl Jam (or whoever) tour, but I think shows will happen. I can't wait to see one again.
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YesRe-reading the first post, I have to say I'm skeptical about full capacity. That's been on my mind a while. These questions specifically:
- Even when vaccinated will people immediately be ready to go back to shows?
- Will indoor shows suffer more than outdoor?
- Due to itchiness and financial reasons will there be a higher than usual number of bands looking to tour at once?
- Will higher supply, lower demand, and number of available venues result in bands playing smaller rooms than you might expect?
For the sake of the artists, I hope there is a ton of pent up demand and most concertgoers feel like I do. But I don't think anyone has a clue. You can make a convincing hypocritical argument from any angle. If there is a general skiddishness, I'm more than ready to see Pearl Jam in a theater, etc.0 -
NoNot a chance. Too much to be done and nobody is in charge. 2022, maybe 2023.#didntwastemyshotPost edited by 2-feign-reluctance onwww.cluthelee.com0
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It's not just how one country/continent vaccinates, but a global effort.
Pearl Jam could sell 25,000 tickets in Timbuktu to fans of six different countries in other hemispheres.
What would help is if they announced many countries at the same time. People would be more likely to stay closer to home. If they sell tickets to seven different countries in Europe at the same time as they sold tickets to Canada, the USA and five different countries south of Mexico, people in Europe wouldn't be as likely to buy tickets to Brazil, Argentina and Canada.
But that's not their game plan.
It is going to be a total epic clusterf once things get back online. There's teams that need venues, plus seasonal acts, plus touring acts.
It could damn well be late 2022 until we see normalcy with bands touring again.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
Yes2-feign-reluctance said:Not a chance. Too much to be done and nobody is in charge. 2022, maybe 2023.#didntwastemyshot0
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I wouldn’t bet too much on it but why not USA in the fall? If vaccines are available to all Americans who want them by then and they make a vaccine an entry requirement for the show I don’t see why it couldn’t happen. Things would have to fall into place, but the key development that people are overlooking is that there are two highly effective vaccines already starting to roll out. That itself is a minor miracle.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
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Late 2021 - limited US a maybe0
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NoThey haven't cancelled anything yet... so there's a little hope of a rescheduled date announcement sometime this year. I'm really curious if they've contemplated a hiatus on GA or other floorplan/capacity rearrangements for the first few legs back on the road.0
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YesI’m hoping fall shows, and I think it’s possible, so yes. Though I doubt shows this year will be ‘exactly as we knew them’, I do think arena events in fall is possible with some safety ‘controls’ added. Barring a turn of events in vaccination rate I don’t think Europe shows will happen as scheduled.0
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Nopjl44 said:2-feign-reluctance said:Not a chance. Too much to be done and nobody is in charge. 2022, maybe 2023.#didntwastemyshot
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I wish there was a “who knows” choice available.I think it all depends on how efficiently the US can roll out the vaccines. I feel like the process will get better in the next few months and we should have a better idea of where we stand by then.The truth is.... no one knows. If you go back and read threads from six to eight months ago some of the experts posting here were telling us we wouldn’t even see a vaccine until 2022. So to have a vaccine already approved and rolled out is huge. But time will tell and I’m choosing to remain optimistic that we get something outdoors this fall. If not... 2022 will be a great year for music.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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YesThe London shows will be the first ones in almost 2 years, and they'll be massive!
Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 20250 -
YesI see full capacity in November. As long as you prove you’re vaccinated and wear a mask. There is no way the NFL is going to start another season without fans or limited capacity. Sports teams will be the tell2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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NoHailHailVitalogy said:I see full capacity in November. As long as you prove you’re vaccinated and wear a mask. There is no way the NFL is going to start another season without fans or limited capacity. Sports teams will be the tell0
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Nobbiggs said:HailHailVitalogy said:I see full capacity in November. As long as you prove you’re vaccinated and wear a mask. There is no way the NFL is going to start another season without fans or limited capacity. Sports teams will be the tellAgree.Showing your papers to be able to go to a show is total fucking bs and certainly is not the way to see a band, as we knew it.Not saying I won't get the vaccine right away when available, just think showing your papers to see a concert is kinda fucked, and don't see Pearl Jam playing gigs where someone needs to do that.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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