#46 President Joe Biden

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Would someone please tell us what the repub platform is for the mid-terms? Criticism in the absence of an alternative policy, idea, thought, etc. is a fart.

They think they have a winner in "parent choice".  

And CRT. And fund the PO-PO.

speaking of CRT.......

https://youtu.be/0B_Iw-Q-msc

The Juggler

mace1229 said:

The Juggler said:

There used to be Republicans around here who defended and argued their positions admirably. Now? With a few exceptions, it's all trolls who pop in with the usual nonsense designed to rile people up and start/continue arguments before popping out ever so quickly without bothering to engage with people reasonably. 


Literally putting the words of the man they worship back at them in response seems kind of reasonable in that context. 

No matter how valid the point, any criticism of Biden is met with Trump memes and lumps you with all Qanaon trumplicans. The bar is so low that as long as someone can point to something the most disliked and divisive president in our history did worse, then you shouldn’t complain about Biden.

If this issue is so prevalent, why don't you provide some examples of what you feel were valid criticisms of Biden, and not the troll like behavior you are so valiantly defending here, that were met with a Trump meme.

Bentleyspop

Halifax2TheMax said:

Would someone please tell us what the repub platform is for the mid-terms? Criticism in the absence of an alternative policy, idea, thought, etc. is a fart.

It is what it always is....

Fear
Forced Birth
Hate
Homophobia 
Ignorance 
Lies
Misogyny 
Racism
Xenophobia

mickeyrat

Bentleyspop said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Would someone please tell us what the repub platform is for the mid-terms? Criticism in the absence of an alternative policy, idea, thought, etc. is a fart.

It is what it always is....

Fear
Forced Birth
Hate
Homophobia 
Ignorance 
Lies
Misogyny 
Racism
Xenophobia

tax cuts

gimmesometruth27

remember in 2020 when the gop party platform was "we are good with whatever trump wants"?

The Juggler

gimmesometruth27 said:

remember in 2020 when the gop party platform was "we are good with whatever trump wants"?

Remember in 2016 when Trump made them alter the platform to weaken their support on Ukraine?

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support

2016 RNC Delegate: Trump Directed Change To Party Platform On Ukraine Support

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The formal printed 2016 Republican platform is placed on the chairs of the state delegates on the floor of the Republican National Convention on July 18, 2016, in Cleveland. One part of the platform that changed was about U.S. assistance to Ukraine.

Jeff Swensen/Getty Images

Updated at 3:36 p.m. E.D.T. on December 4.

President Trump may have been involved with a change to the Republican Party campaign platform last year that watered down support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine, according to new information from someone who was involved.

Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support weakening that position in the official platform.

Ultimately, the softer position was adopted.

Denman is scheduled to meet this week with the House and Senate Intelligence committees to discuss what she saw, said two sources familiar with the briefings.

Investigators in Congress and elsewhere want to ask the San Antonio-area woman about how her proposal supporting Ukraine changed in the course of last year's convention.

People familiar with the story described it to NPR. Robert N. Driscoll, a Washington-based lawyer for Denman at McGlinchey Stafford, declined to comment.

Article continues after sponsor message

The revision to Denman's proposed amendment to the Republican platform scaled back the party's position on pro-Western elements in Ukraine — from supporting supplying weapons for fighters there to a more general assistance.

The issue is of interest to investigators in Congress and the team working for Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller because the idea of arming Ukrainians in the fight against pro-Russian separatist forces was staunchly opposed by the Russian government — and, it seems, the Trump campaign as well.

Denman has told people she spoke with Gordon, a national security aide on the Trump campaign, at the Republican convention in Cleveland last year. Gordon identified himself as a representative with the Trump campaign and informed her he had phoned "New York" about the Ukraine proposal, in Denman's account.

She followed up by asking with whom Gordon had spoken. And, more than once, Gordon replied he had discussed the issue with Trump.

No he didn't, Gordon said on Monday.

"I dispute her recollection of events," he said in messages with NPR. He also denied telling Denman in Cleveland that he had discussed the Ukraine language with Trump.

"Trump wasn't involved in the GOP Platform details. That was my job," Gordon said by text message. "Individual delegates didn't have the authority to force their positions on the campaign."

"I am not getting into a 'he said, she said' with the media about Diana Denman or anyone else," Gordon added.

One source said Denman was skeptical about Gordon's account at the time.

Gordon told NPR on Monday that Trump long had a clear position on Ukraine.

"Trump said on the campaign trail that he didn't want World War III over Ukraine. And he wanted better relations with Russia," Gordon said. "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that arming Ukraine isn't consistent with those two positions."

The Obama administration also vowed support for pro-Western forces in Ukraine and supplied them with vehicles and other military equipment, but stopped short of weapons.

What has since become clear is that at the time of the convention, Russia was running a broad series of "active measures" against the U.S. presidential election that included clandestine outreach by human agents and an overt information campaign on social media. That wasn't known to the public then, but Mueller and congressional investigators have begun looking into whether anyone in the Trump camp helped the Russians who were attacking the election.

The change to the Ukraine platform in Cleveland has attracted attention because it has raised questions about whether it might have been evidence of communications between Russians and the Trump campaign, or was intended by the Trump team as some kind of a signal to the Russians about their willingness to accommodate them.

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

remember in 2020 when the gop party platform was "we are good with whatever trump wants"?

Remember in 2016 when Trump made them alter the platform to weaken their support on Ukraine?

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support

2016 RNC Delegate: Trump Directed Change To Party Platform On Ukraine Support

• 
  

Twitter

The formal printed 2016 Republican platform is placed on the chairs of the state delegates on the floor of the Republican National Convention on July 18, 2016, in Cleveland. One part of the platform that changed was about U.S. assistance to Ukraine.

Jeff Swensen/Getty Images

Updated at 3:36 p.m. E.D.T. on December 4.

President Trump may have been involved with a change to the Republican Party campaign platform last year that watered down support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine, according to new information from someone who was involved.

Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support weakening that position in the official platform.

Ultimately, the softer position was adopted.

Denman is scheduled to meet this week with the House and Senate Intelligence committees to discuss what she saw, said two sources familiar with the briefings.

Investigators in Congress and elsewhere want to ask the San Antonio-area woman about how her proposal supporting Ukraine changed in the course of last year's convention.

People familiar with the story described it to NPR. Robert N. Driscoll, a Washington-based lawyer for Denman at McGlinchey Stafford, declined to comment.

Article continues after sponsor message

The revision to Denman's proposed amendment to the Republican platform scaled back the party's position on pro-Western elements in Ukraine — from supporting supplying weapons for fighters there to a more general assistance.

The issue is of interest to investigators in Congress and the team working for Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller because the idea of arming Ukrainians in the fight against pro-Russian separatist forces was staunchly opposed by the Russian government — and, it seems, the Trump campaign as well.

Denman has told people she spoke with Gordon, a national security aide on the Trump campaign, at the Republican convention in Cleveland last year. Gordon identified himself as a representative with the Trump campaign and informed her he had phoned "New York" about the Ukraine proposal, in Denman's account.

She followed up by asking with whom Gordon had spoken. And, more than once, Gordon replied he had discussed the issue with Trump.

No he didn't, Gordon said on Monday.

"I dispute her recollection of events," he said in messages with NPR. He also denied telling Denman in Cleveland that he had discussed the Ukraine language with Trump.

"Trump wasn't involved in the GOP Platform details. That was my job," Gordon said by text message. "Individual delegates didn't have the authority to force their positions on the campaign."

"I am not getting into a 'he said, she said' with the media about Diana Denman or anyone else," Gordon added.

One source said Denman was skeptical about Gordon's account at the time.

Gordon told NPR on Monday that Trump long had a clear position on Ukraine.

"Trump said on the campaign trail that he didn't want World War III over Ukraine. And he wanted better relations with Russia," Gordon said. "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that arming Ukraine isn't consistent with those two positions."

The Obama administration also vowed support for pro-Western forces in Ukraine and supplied them with vehicles and other military equipment, but stopped short of weapons.

What has since become clear is that at the time of the convention, Russia was running a broad series of "active measures" against the U.S. presidential election that included clandestine outreach by human agents and an overt information campaign on social media. That wasn't known to the public then, but Mueller and congressional investigators have begun looking into whether anyone in the Trump camp helped the Russians who were attacking the election.

The change to the Ukraine platform in Cleveland has attracted attention because it has raised questions about whether it might have been evidence of communications between Russians and the Trump campaign, or was intended by the Trump team as some kind of a signal to the Russians about their willingness to accommodate them.

Shhhhhhhh! Shush you! Nobody wants to talk about it!

Bentleyspop

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Would someone please tell us what the repub platform is for the mid-terms? Criticism in the absence of an alternative policy, idea, thought, etc. is a fart.

It is what it always is....

Fear
Forced Birth
Hate
Homophobia 
Ignorance 
Lies
Misogyny 
Racism
Xenophobia

tax cuts

Correct
But only for the wealthiest of the wealthy
The rest of you working stiffs have to cover the shortfall

mickeyrat

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Would someone please tell us what the repub platform is for the mid-terms? Criticism in the absence of an alternative policy, idea, thought, etc. is a fart.

It is what it always is....

Fear
Forced Birth
Hate
Homophobia 
Ignorance 
Lies
Misogyny 
Racism
Xenophobia

tax cuts

Correct
But only for the wealthiest of the wealthy
The rest of you working stiffs have to cover the shortfall

its the American  way!!!!

mickeyrat

something is being done. results will be a while....

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-europe-prices-pete-buttigieg-c6cfdfdcb12d30d0473443e7b5d05781

US ports to get $450M to speed flow of goods, lower prices

By HOPE YEN

Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — Clogged U.S. ports are being given access to nearly $450 million in federal money from President Joe Biden's infrastructure law as part of the administration's recent stepped-up efforts aiming to ease supply chain congestion and lower prices for American consumers.

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Wednesday announced the availability of a first batch of competitive grants for ports that will be double last year's amount annually for five years. The grants are aimed specifically at reducing bottlenecks that have slowed the flow of goods to store shelves and pushed up costs.

The grants are among several pots of money under the $1 trillion law that the department intends to steer toward providing mid-term and long-term relief to the nation's supply chain, which administration officials described as somewhat outdated and broken. Still, acknowledging that the upgrades will take time, Biden officials have largely shied away from any assurances that Americans could see clear and demonstrable changes to their lives before the 2022 midterm elections.

continues.....

JeBurkhardt

DewieCox said:

Trump only loves himself and Ivanka. 

Don't forget money.

Bentleyspop

JeBurkhardt said:

DewieCox said:

Trump only loves himself and Ivanka. 

Don't forget money.

He loves to lie about money
And everything else

The Juggler

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

EdsonNascimento

The Juggler said:

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

Putin is the actor, so clearly he's ultimately responsible for his actions.  

But, you understand that Biden is President and his actions have created the climate for this to occur?  Why didn't it happen the prior 4 years?  Actions do have repercussions. We are now no longer energy independent, W. Europe relies too much on Russian oil and we've taken any real impact sanctions off the table or threatened them in such a way as to entice invasion.

Biden polices are to blame. Who else would you blame?  

Your ignoring Biden's part is like ignoring the parents' responsibility in the recent school shooting. Yeah, they didn't pull the trigger, but they put the gun in his hand. He's ultimately responsible, but they're to blame.

Kat

There's so much name-calling and insulting going on that there has been a lot of misinterpretation of the insulting and name-calling. It's time to stop doing that because people think it's being directed at them personally. Discuss the topic without doing that. There are so many important things to discuss. Thank you.

The Juggler

EdsonNascimento said:

The Juggler said:

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

Putin is the actor, so clearly he's ultimately responsible for his actions.  

But, you understand that Biden is President and his actions have created the climate for this to occur?  Why didn't it happen the prior 4 years?  Actions do have repercussions. We are now no longer energy independent, W. Europe relies too much on Russian oil and we've taken any real impact sanctions off the table or threatened them in such a way as to entice invasion.

Biden polices are to blame. Who else would you blame?  

Your ignoring Biden's part is like ignoring the parents' responsibility in the recent school shooting. Yeah, they didn't pull the trigger, but they put the gun in his hand. He's ultimately responsible, but they're to blame.

https://www.axios.com/us-energy-independent-petroleum-2982ed18-9110-4c31-ad67-82abe643f661.html

The U.S. is now energy independent

• Neil Irwin

Axios on facebookAxios on twitterAxios on linkedinAxios on email

Data: Energy Information Administration. Chart: Axios Visuals

For decades, politicians have talked about the U.S. achieving energy independence, a seemingly elusive goal of producing enough fuels to avoid relying on the rest of the world to fill up gas tanks and keep electricity flowing.

The intrigue: It's elusive no more. The U.S. produced more petroleum than it consumed in 2020, and the numbers were essentially in balance in 2021, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Why it matters: The surge in oil prices taking place in 2022 has radically different implications for the U.S. economy — and for key geopolitical relationships in the Middle East and Russia — than in past episodes when energy prices have risen.

The big picture: In the past, when oil prices spiked, the impact on the U.S. economy was straightforward: It made America poorer, as more of our income went overseas to pay for imported energy.

• Now, after the shale gas revolution of the last 15 years, the impact is more subtle. Higher fuel prices disadvantage consumers and energy-intensive industries, yes. But there is a counteracting surge in incomes for domestic energy producers and their workers.
• Higher oil prices no longer depress overall measures of prosperity like GDP and national income, but rather shift it around toward certain regions. Texas and North Dakota win; Massachusetts and North Carolina lose.

By the numbers: As recently as 2010, America imported 9.4 million barrels a day of oil more than it exported. That had swung to a 650,000 barrel per day surplus in 2020, and preliminary numbers for 2021 show trade pretty much in balance last year.

Worth noting: To the degree the U.S. does still import oil, more of it is coming from our closest ally. Canada was the source of 51% of U.S. petroleum imports in the first 10 months of 2021, compared with 8% from the Persian Gulf.

• By contrast, the Gulf states supplied more than 30% of American petroleum imports in 2008.

Free idea for an international relations professor: Assign an essay question on how the changing economics of energy could affect America's stance in Middle Eastern diplomacy.

The impact on geopolitics extends to a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine. Disruptions to European energy supplies would have a less direct effect on the U.S. than they might have in an earlier era.

The bottom line: When oil prices spike, it's no longer a problem for overall growth—but because energy is a global market, it still means pain for American consumers and the sitting administration.

Editor's note: This screen originally published on Feb. 17.

Lerxst1992

EdsonNascimento said:

The Juggler said:

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

Putin is the actor, so clearly he's ultimately responsible for his actions.  

But, you understand that Biden is President and his actions have created the climate for this to occur?  Why didn't it happen the prior 4 years?  Actions do have repercussions. We are now no longer energy independent, W. Europe relies too much on Russian oil and we've taken any real impact sanctions off the table or threatened them in such a way as to entice invasion.

Biden polices are to blame. Who else would you blame?  

Your ignoring Biden's part is like ignoring the parents' responsibility in the recent school shooting. Yeah, they didn't pull the trigger, but they put the gun in his hand. He's ultimately responsible, but they're to blame.

So you prefer a Russian mafia sympathizer like Trump ? You think it’s better to sympathize with a murderous criminal like Putin than to stand up for freedom and liberty?

if you have proof that Biden is responsible for Western Europe energy procurement, or certain sanctions are permanently “off the table”please leave such proof here. Otherwise kindly leave misinformation off the forum as we all want to abide by the strict “name calling” rules and posting misinformation about Biden in a time of crisis and supporting the former president who is a sympathizer to a murderous dictator warrants extreme rule breaking here. There is nothing less American than that.

The Juggler

Lerxst1992 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

The Juggler said:

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

Putin is the actor, so clearly he's ultimately responsible for his actions.  

But, you understand that Biden is President and his actions have created the climate for this to occur?  Why didn't it happen the prior 4 years?  Actions do have repercussions. We are now no longer energy independent, W. Europe relies too much on Russian oil and we've taken any real impact sanctions off the table or threatened them in such a way as to entice invasion.

Biden polices are to blame. Who else would you blame?  

Your ignoring Biden's part is like ignoring the parents' responsibility in the recent school shooting. Yeah, they didn't pull the trigger, but they put the gun in his hand. He's ultimately responsible, but they're to blame.

So you prefer a Russian mafia sympathizer like Trump ? You think it’s better to sympathize with a murderous criminal like Putin than to stand up for freedom and liberty?

if you have proof that Biden is responsible for Western Europe energy procurement, or certain sanctions are permanently “off the table”please leave such proof here. Otherwise kindly leave misinformation off the forum as we all want to abide by the strict “name calling” rules and posting misinformation about Biden in a time of crisis and supporting the former president who is a sympathizer to a murderous dictator warrants extreme rule breaking here. There is nothing less American than that.

When you're on the side of Marge Greene, it might be time to reevaluate.

I stepped in my dog's shit this morning. I'm blaming Joe Biden completely!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1497311315135660032?s=20&t=j6dgCq-ECycVt3GRgDSKSQ

brianlux

I'm really finding this thread to be a great opportunity to learn to rationally discuss things with people who have a perspective that is 180 degrees different from mine or to choose to ignore their comments all together.  Either way, to do otherwise could prove to be very foolish right now.

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

Lerxst1992 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

The Juggler said:

These people have no shame. 

The rest of the world blames Putin.
Putin blames Ukraine.
Trump Republicans blame.... Joe Biden. Unreal. 

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1496529736096534537?s=20&t=9NSzBtE_3LHGKg6xtZEv6g

Putin is the actor, so clearly he's ultimately responsible for his actions.  

But, you understand that Biden is President and his actions have created the climate for this to occur?  Why didn't it happen the prior 4 years?  Actions do have repercussions. We are now no longer energy independent, W. Europe relies too much on Russian oil and we've taken any real impact sanctions off the table or threatened them in such a way as to entice invasion.

Biden polices are to blame. Who else would you blame?  

Your ignoring Biden's part is like ignoring the parents' responsibility in the recent school shooting. Yeah, they didn't pull the trigger, but they put the gun in his hand. He's ultimately responsible, but they're to blame.

So you prefer a Russian mafia sympathizer like Trump ? You think it’s better to sympathize with a murderous criminal like Putin than to stand up for freedom and liberty?

if you have proof that Biden is responsible for Western Europe energy procurement, or certain sanctions are permanently “off the table”please leave such proof here. Otherwise kindly leave misinformation off the forum as we all want to abide by the strict “name calling” rules and posting misinformation about Biden in a time of crisis and supporting the former president who is a sympathizer to a murderous dictator warrants extreme rule breaking here. There is nothing less American than that.

When you're on the side of Marge Greene, it might be time to reevaluate.

I stepped in my dog's shit this morning. I'm blaming Joe Biden completely!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1497311315135660032?s=20&t=j6dgCq-ECycVt3GRgDSKSQ

And ‘Muricans elected her to Congress. Imagine that.