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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 29,307
    did I say that?
    ....courage is fear that just said its prayers....


  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 566
    did I say that?
    I honestly don't know what you were referring to so I assumed it was the previous post.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,558
    JB16057 said:
    if it happens to trump: coronavirus/previous admin fault
    if it happens to biden: utter failure
    Was inflation out of control when Trump was in office?
    Ummm...it would be if he were still in office. lol
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,806
    JB16057 said:
    if it happens to trump: coronavirus/previous admin fault
    if it happens to biden: utter failure
    Was inflation out of control when Trump was in office?
    Ridiculous...as if Biden wouldn't end inflation tomorrow by snapping his fingers if that were possible.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,558
    JB16057 said:
    if it happens to trump: coronavirus/previous admin fault
    if it happens to biden: utter failure
    Was inflation out of control when Trump was in office?
    Ridiculous...as if Biden wouldn't end inflation tomorrow by snapping his fingers if that were possible.

    The world is more difficult than OAN leads you to believe.
    Catch phrases like "let's go brandon" seem to matter more to people these days than actual reasoning, unfortunately. 

    Again, Idiocracy was way ahead of it's time. 


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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TXPosts: 5,803
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,974
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Did you post this to have an actual discussion on this analysis and the merits of it?  If not, I won't waste my time writing something back if you're not going to engage. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,864
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Did you post this to have an actual discussion on this analysis and the merits of it?  If not, I won't waste my time writing something back if you're not going to engage. 

    of course he wont. hasnt been here for sometime  now and drops a doocument posted to scrib'd
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,318
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Did you post this to have an actual discussion on this analysis and the merits of it?  If not, I won't waste my time writing something back if you're not going to engage. 
    He will not have an actual discussion. 

    It's part of the troll playback which I believe you can find on scribd
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,583
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Did you post this to have an actual discussion on this analysis and the merits of it?  If not, I won't waste my time writing something back if you're not going to engage. 

    of course he wont. hasnt been here for sometime  now and drops a doocument posted to scrib'd
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 8,263
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    I'd say the term "study" is a pretty loose description of it. Is this the kind of bullshit you Trumplicans are making a stand about election fraud on? They clearly avoided certain statistics that would punch holes in all their conspiracy theories, but most of those who read it won't even think about those things.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,974
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    I'd say the term "study" is a pretty loose description of it. Is this the kind of bullshit you Trumplicans are making a stand about election fraud on? They clearly avoided certain statistics that would punch holes in all their conspiracy theories, but most of those who read it won't even think about those things.
    The most obvious flaw is that it ignores the question as to whether 2016 was the outlier.  They basically took only two data sets (2016 and 2020) and compared.  The assumptions that are flawed are:
    1. Assumes 2016 was the norm
    2. Assumes that election over election variation is the anomaly.  

    This is without getting into those 9 potential causes that read like a laundry list from the causes of action from the law suits that were thrown out. 

    If your June sales dropped compared to May, would you only look at those two months to understand it?  No.  You'd look at previous months for the trend, you'd look at last year's sales to determine if it's seasonality.  You'd also figure out if your products had changed, aged, etc.  This is just 9th grade critical thinking.  
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 8,500
    edited January 14
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Thankfully, a paywall forced me to stop reading this after two pages.

    The theory: the cumulative number of votes in California increased by 3.8 million, and this is 'cause for suspicion' because California's population only increased by 700,000 between the two elections.

    The reality: this takes three minutes to debunk. Population growth isn't the only way to increase registered voters - which happened to increase from 16 million to 22 million within the four years. That's 6 million extra potential voters (well above the 3.8 million additional observed, and well below California's total population of 39 million).
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,583
    benjs said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i am so glad that my support of a candidate in one single election is not an integral part of my identity.

    must be hard to be a trump supporter these days.
    That's the thing most of them cannot comprehend. They seem to assume people who voted for Biden are in a cult just like they are.
    If all Trump supporters are in a cult, why do they not follow his advice on taking the vaccine?
    Because the news outlets and radio programs they watch/listen either don’t report it, barely mention it and/or rail against it, regardless. Heck, POOTWH was booed when he mentioned it at a rally and never followed up and implored folks to get it. Kinda just shrugged his shoulders and tossed that talking point, riff, mention, whatever, to the wind.

    You are wrong. Yes, he's mentioned it at multiple rallies and was booed. To say he never followed up is not true. He's still toting the vaccine and boosters. Right before Christmas Trump did an interview with Candace Owens and was pushing people to take the vaccine. He did say it was a choice but he told people they should get it because it could save your life. He did a ton of harm to his image by doing this but it was the right thing to do. Candace Owens and Alex Jones are both railing against him for saying this.

    It is not "whatever" to the wind.

    He has done the absolute bare minimum someone in his position should be doing to encourage people to get the vaccine. Same thing with masks and social distancing while he was still president. We now know they barely even followed their own cdc's guidelines in the White House. 

    On the other hand, he has been working overtime since before the election even happened to sow doubts into his supporters minds that he did not lose the election. I don't think there is more proof needed that these people are in a cult than the fact that they choose to simply ignore the abundance of evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of Trump supporters believe Trump won the election simply because Trump has been repeating this lie to them literally single every chance he gets for over a year now. If you hear the man you worship repeat something over and over and over and over again.....you're going to eventually believe it is true despite what reality is. I saw one poll that said over 80% of Fox News viewers believe it. lol.

    It is an enormous problem moving forward when almost half the electorate will simply not accept the results of free and fair elections anymore. I don't expect you to understand that right now, but maybe someday you will. 

    https://apnews.com/article/voter-fraud-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-7fcb6f134e528fee8237c7601db3328f




    Here’s an interesting study on it

    https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report
    Thankfully, a paywall forced me to stop reading this after two pages.

    The theory: the cumulative number of votes in California increased by 3.8 million, and this is 'cause for suspicion' because California's population only increased by 700,000 between the two elections.

    The reality: this takes three minutes to debunk. Population growth isn't the only way to increase registered voters - which happened to increase from 16 million to 22 million within the four years. That's 6 million extra potential voters (well above the 3.8 million additional observed, and well below California's total population of 39 million).
    You mean data like this?

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,558
    edited January 14
    OF COURSE Mr. Rolesomemodels believes the election was stolen. LOL.

    Didn't people give me a hard time for asking him and others who won the election a bunch of times last year? I wasn't trying to be an asshole, I was legitimately curious about their beliefs and how they arrived there. It was only a matter of time before this came out. 

    There are millions and millions and millions of other people who Trump has successfully duped just like him.


    So tell me again how it's not a cult? (thanks for proving my point)


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    By the numbers: Stats that tell story of Biden's first year
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — By some counts, President Joe Biden can lay claim to a banner first year in office. But numbers also reveal plenty of setbacks.


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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 36,174
    I'm sorry to see Biden's rating struggling.  OK, he isn't going to go down in history as our greatest president, but he SURELY will no be seen as our worst (we saw that not so long ago).
    But what concerns me  (and maybe it's because my wife has out-of-the-blue said this a number of times lately), what is going to happen in 2024?  Good question and an unsettling on.  Yes, it is ridiculously way to early to start making predictions and such... but with the radical right fiercely mobilizing, is it ever to early to be concerned about that?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,974
    brianlux said:
    I'm sorry to see Biden's rating struggling.  OK, he isn't going to go down in history as our greatest president, but he SURELY will no be seen as our worst (we saw that not so long ago).
    But what concerns me  (and maybe it's because my wife has out-of-the-blue said this a number of times lately), what is going to happen in 2024?  Good question and an unsettling on.  Yes, it is ridiculously way to early to start making predictions and such... but with the radical right fiercely mobilizing, is it ever to early to be concerned about that?
    Shivers!
    Pete! 

    Biden is having a terrible run of luck,  but he's also trying to take ownership of everything which is morally good and politically bad. 

    For example the OSHA vaccine requirement was always going to be an uphill climb with the conservative court.  A more politically astute and perhaps cynical president wouldn't pick the fight. He did because he believes in it,  but now it's another loss. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 36,174
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm sorry to see Biden's rating struggling.  OK, he isn't going to go down in history as our greatest president, but he SURELY will no be seen as our worst (we saw that not so long ago).
    But what concerns me  (and maybe it's because my wife has out-of-the-blue said this a number of times lately), what is going to happen in 2024?  Good question and an unsettling on.  Yes, it is ridiculously way to early to start making predictions and such... but with the radical right fiercely mobilizing, is it ever to early to be concerned about that?
    Shivers!
    Pete! 

    Biden is having a terrible run of luck,  but he's also trying to take ownership of everything which is morally good and politically bad. 

    For example the OSHA vaccine requirement was always going to be an uphill climb with the conservative court.  A more politically astute and perhaps cynical president wouldn't pick the fight. He did because he believes in it,  but now it's another loss. 

    Yeah, he had to fill some shoes that had been shamefully tarnished and then try to untangle of disgraceful four years of a bad mess.
    Pete, yes!  That's the ticket!
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,111
    edited January 17
    I think most people knew Biden would not be a good president. He just was a way better option in the last election.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,318
    I think most people knew Biden would not be a good president. He just was a way better option in the last election.
    This is true.
    More importantly the people who advise him and give him ideas are a whole lot more trustworthy than the white supremacist xenophobes who were advising gods orange gift.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,806
    I think Biden is doing fine. Not much he can do with only a small margin in the Senate and Manchin/Sinema being the two idiots on the edge.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,430
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 566
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,583
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,430
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
    You don’t believe in voting rights for historically disenfranchised voters? Got it.
    kinda what i was thinking...

    it is not even worth engaging.
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 566
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
    You don’t believe in voting rights for historically disenfranchised voters? Got it.
    Yes, I feel bad for all of those disenfranchised voters. We had more people voting in the 2020 election than ever before. That is proof we are already making progress.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,806
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
    You don’t believe in voting rights for historically disenfranchised voters? Got it.
    Yes, I feel bad for all of those disenfranchised voters. We had more people voting in the 2020 election than ever before. That is proof we are already making progress.

    that's the point...there was progress and then the GOP started trying to make it harder for people to vote
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,583
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
    You don’t believe in voting rights for historically disenfranchised voters? Got it.
    Yes, I feel bad for all of those disenfranchised voters. We had more people voting in the 2020 election than ever before. That is proof we are already making progress.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,111
    Ah same old train. Someone disagrees and then someone attacks with an over simplification and then attacks personally.  Love this place. 
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