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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    You can also add divisiveness to that list. Republicans are whining about voter fraud and Democrats are whining about voter suppression.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,643
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    I hope you understand the push on the federal side is to fight against the growing number of state laws that are seeking to restrict access and ease.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,643
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,643
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    Do we?  No evidence exists to prove that.  60 + court cases didn’t.  Kris Kobach’s silly Commission on Election Integrity dissolved early in the Trump admin without finding a single issue.
  • JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    Because there have been so many stolen and unfair elections, right? Voter fraud is rampant, right? Hundreds, thousands maybe 300 million according to the bite a pillow guy, in jail or should be. Disgraceful. Who should follow the US in its current state. North Korea, China, Russia. Who else?
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  • Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    This isn’t new in Texas. When I moved here 5 years ago the voting by mail rules were the same if I recall correctly. 


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    mrussel1 said:
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    I hope you understand the push on the federal side is to fight against the growing number of state laws that are seeking to restrict access and ease.
    No way! How could I understand that??

    of course. I was speaking to the work of the states. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    i'm sure biden would bribe manchin and sinema to be on board with his agenda if he could, but you cannot compete with that outside special interest money. for all we know trump may be paying them as well. or the RNC.. 
    Maybe Manchin and Sinema don't believe in the agenda. Why is that so crazy to understand? Instead you attack them and accuse them of taking bribes. You do understand that not everyone is on board with the Biden agenda right? Being a Democrat doesn't mean you have to subscribe to everything your party believes.
    You don’t believe in voting rights for historically disenfranchised voters? Got it.
    Yes, I feel bad for all of those disenfranchised voters. We had more people voting in the 2020 election than ever before. That is proof we are already making progress.

    that's the point...there was progress and then the GOP started trying to make it harder for people to vote
    Voting laws are up to each state and it should remain that way. If you don't like your state's voting laws, you can push to elect new people or move out of the state.

    So if a state discriminates on who has access to the vote, how are voters supposed to vote out the politicians that tilted the scale in their favor?
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,643
    mrussel1 said:
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    I hope you understand the push on the federal side is to fight against the growing number of state laws that are seeking to restrict access and ease.
    No way! How could I understand that??

    of course. I was speaking to the work of the states. 
    I thought you meant the fed
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,352
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    But they still have an early voting period. I don’t know what that looks like, but if registration is easy and locations are accessible, then I don’t see the big deal about the mail in voting.
    If it’s not easy and there aren’t enough early voting places, then I see the concern about mail in.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    I hope you understand the push on the federal side is to fight against the growing number of state laws that are seeking to restrict access and ease.
    No way! How could I understand that??

    of course. I was speaking to the work of the states. 
    I thought you meant the fed
    Yeah I know. I was messing with you. ;)

    but no, I was talking about the states.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,963
    edited January 2022
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,788
    edited January 2022
    mace1229 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    But they still have an early voting period. I don’t know what that looks like, but if registration is easy and locations are accessible, then I don’t see the big deal about the mail in voting.
    If it’s not easy and there aren’t enough early voting places, then I see the concern about mail in.
    I do think we need to make sure voting early is accessible to all, but that Texas reference above isn't accurate. I was surprised to see the many options Texas does offer for both early in-person voting and mail in voting after reading some of the statements made here.

    https://www.votetexas.gov/faq/early-voting.html

    Edit: I shouldn't say not accurate, but more doesn't paint the whole picture of options.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    JB16057 said:
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    You can also add divisiveness to that list. Republicans are whining about voter fraud and Democrats are whining about voter suppression.

    One thing is a lie. The other is reality. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,788
    JB16057 said:
    I personally think we should be working to have more way for people to vote. This isn’t 1900….figure out how to do it all safely. And for the most part it was done safely in person and by mail. 

    The worst part of all of this is wasting all this time (and $) on something that doesn’t need “fixed”.
    You can also add divisiveness to that list. Republicans are whining about voter fraud and Democrats are whining about voter suppression.

    One thing is a lie. The other is reality. 
    Yeah, seems pretty obvious, but I guess some see them as the same thing. I can't understand the correlation.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,135
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
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  • tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    But they still have an early voting period. I don’t know what that looks like, but if registration is easy and locations are accessible, then I don’t see the big deal about the mail in voting.
    If it’s not easy and there aren’t enough early voting places, then I see the concern about mail in.
    I do think we need to make sure voting early is accessible to all, but that Texas reference above isn't accurate. I was surprised to see the many options Texas does offer for both early in-person voting and mail in voting after reading some of the statements made here.

    https://www.votetexas.gov/faq/early-voting.html

    Edit: I shouldn't say not accurate, but more doesn't paint the whole picture of options.
    What I posted refers specifically to vote by mail. It is an accurate list as verified by the link you posted. Are you seeing something different?
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
    Can you provide proof of how many votes these new laws have suppressed?

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,135
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday this JB guy admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
    Can you provide proof of how many votes these new laws have suppressed?

    uh....we haven't had an election yet.

    I feel like you don't do much research or give much thought to anything you try to argue about.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • KatKat Posts: 4,864
    edited January 2022
    Closed for review. Sorry it took a while...very busy right now with an album being released. Topic is being reopened.
    NOTE: DO NOT talk about each other. Talk about the topic. Thanks.

    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    Biden year one takeaways: Grand ambitions, humbling defeats
    By The Associated Press
    Today

    Joe Biden's long arc in public life has always had one final ambition: to sit behind the Resolute Desk of the Oval Office.

    He achieved it — albeit, at 78, as the oldest person to assume the presidency. After the turbulence and chaos of his predecessor, Donald Trump, Biden was seen by voters as one who could restore a sense of normalcy and a reassuring tone to the White House.

    But Biden also found out, as all his predecessors have, that events beyond his control would shape his time in office and the public's assessment of him.

    Takeaways from The Associated Press' White House team on Biden's first year as president:

    BIG AMBITIONS

    Biden started his presidency with more than $4 trillion worth of big ideas — his eyes larger than what the Senate could stomach.

    $1.9 trillion worth of coronavirus relief passed in March, which in many first years in office would have been considered a signature achievement.

    But Biden kept asking for more: an additional $2.3 trillion for infrastructure and jobs, and another $1.8 trillion for families.

    After some tortuous negotiations, he got a version of his infrastructure plan passed and even got more than a dozen


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  • are we back open? test post.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • looks like it worked. 

    all of us, no matter the party, should be concerned about the impediments being put in place to voting. the 15th amendment is being threatened in several ways. partisan jerrymandering, fewer machines in poor areas that typically vote democrat, disallowing early voting in some states, etc.

    republicans know that they cannot win on their ideas and their platform. they know that if more people vote, they are less likely to win an election. how can they tilt the odds in their favor? either try to make biden so toxic democrats will not turn out to vote, OR make it more and more difficult for people to vote.

    those that support these new laws, should be ashamed of themselves. it is a solution in search of a problem, and it is absolutely cheating.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    looks like it worked. 

    all of us, no matter the party, should be concerned about the impediments being put in place to voting. the 15th amendment is being threatened in several ways. partisan jerrymandering, fewer machines in poor areas that typically vote democrat, disallowing early voting in some states, etc.

    republicans know that they cannot win on their ideas and their platform. they know that if more people vote, they are less likely to win an election. how can they tilt the odds in their favor? either try to make biden so toxic democrats will not turn out to vote, OR make it more and more difficult for people to vote.

    those that support these new laws, should be ashamed of themselves. it is a solution in search of a problem, and it is absolutely cheating.
    Yep. Plain and simple. If 2020 was the most secure in our country's history, there is no need for "barriers" to go up and erode the progress we made. A healthy democracy would build upon that progress, not work to destroy it. 


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,643
    Vermont gov (R) pushes for full mail in voting.  Republican wants more participation in democracy?  What a RINO!

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/590161-vermonts-republican-governor-backs-all-mail-elections
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