Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah, I posted the article as a joke. Fox can't point to actual polls, so they have to resort to printing garbage like this.
Kinda like how for the last day Hillary's emails have been their top story on their website. They are such a farce.
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah, I posted the article as a joke. Fox can't point to actual polls, so they have to resort to printing garbage like this.
Kinda like how for the last day Hillary's emails have been their top story on their website. They are such a farce.
haha.. I know. They're down to the last bag of tricks. Everyone is past 2016.
So does someone go out of their way to pay for a PJ membership only to make 14 comments that could be better served in the Facebook comment section of a Breitbart article?
Like bots can't sign up for a board membership right? So like this takes some serious work to want to troll a board where you pay right? On a semi-related note - I would pay a lot more for privileges here so that dips like this could not justify hanging around.
On a thread-related note:
My sources for following are: 1) 538 2) The Economist's model 3) PredictIt.org 4) 270towin.com - I think these 3, 4 sources will give you the greatest mosaic on getting a picture of what's going on.
i've actually seen people get banned after less than 10 posts, brand new member (not just new to posting).
Who are we talking about here, gents?
i don't know the specifics of who jearlpam is talking about, i was just saying i've actually seen it before, with someone obviously buying a membership and purposely getting banned within a few posts.
i'd never put a tacky political sign in my yard. never understood the point. i always love driving by a house that has two signs, one from each party. makes me wonder how dinnertime is at that house.
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah. I liked Obama, kind of. I would never wear an Obama hat with some slogan, or a shirt, or anything else. I wouldnt even put a partisan sticker on my vehicle. Its silly, and I have my own identity without trying to latch on some political party. All those sill chotchky items like commemorative coins, mugs, etc. My god. get a life. Or the pickup trucks with the penis-compensating American and Trump flags on the back. Whoa. Cool!
In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah. I liked Obama, kind of. I would never wear an Obama hat with some slogan, or a shirt, or anything else. I wouldnt even put a partisan sticker on my vehicle. Its silly, and I have my own identity without trying to latch on some political party. All those sill chotchky items like commemorative coins, mugs, etc. My god. get a life. Or the pickup trucks with the penis-compensating American and Trump flags on the back. Whoa. Cool!
In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
I previously agreed with this, however, I started thinking about parallels. I mean, how different is it with any given passion? people put band (PEARL JAM) stickers on their cars. I was just thinking, if Pearl Jam called me and asked if they could put a sign in my yard to advertise my support for their upcoming show, damn rights I'd say yes. LOL. then after the show I'd probably hang that sign on my bar, and they'd be going for hundreds in Lost Dogs and eBay.
people were buying dog collars and hideous track suits with the band's name on it. I bought a fucking balaclava that is itchy as fuck and i'll probably never wear just because I love Jeff Ament. and how many thousands have pearl jam/stickman tattoos? talk about a cult. LOL
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah. I liked Obama, kind of. I would never wear an Obama hat with some slogan, or a shirt, or anything else. I wouldnt even put a partisan sticker on my vehicle. Its silly, and I have my own identity without trying to latch on some political party. All those sill chotchky items like commemorative coins, mugs, etc. My god. get a life. Or the pickup trucks with the penis-compensating American and Trump flags on the back. Whoa. Cool!
In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
I feel like it's a blatant sign of mental illness. The trucks with the massive duo of US and Trump flags on the back are redonkulous. They only do it because they want to get a response out of the non-supporters.
Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah. I liked Obama, kind of. I would never wear an Obama hat with some slogan, or a shirt, or anything else. I wouldnt even put a partisan sticker on my vehicle. Its silly, and I have my own identity without trying to latch on some political party. All those sill chotchky items like commemorative coins, mugs, etc. My god. get a life. Or the pickup trucks with the penis-compensating American and Trump flags on the back. Whoa. Cool!
In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
Signs that people see are meaningless. Traditionally, this is particularly true for president. I recall as a kid, most of the signs I'd see were for mayor or state legislative seats, because the candidates literally went door-to-door to ask people to do it. I don't recall yard signs for Reagan, Clinton, etc. Now, in the era of the internet, I'm seeing dozens of static Biden signs on my bike rides (through liberal Minneapolis and St. Paul). Well, I know Biden's going to do well there...that doesn't mean anything state/nationwide. Similarly, on longer trips, it's almost all Trump along the highways. That's a change in the times. We're just more into screaming about Prez nowadays as we get more divided.
But anyone who thinks the signs they see, matter a lick, doesn't really understand what anecdotal evidence is (or, rather, isn't).
I've never had a bumper sticker,* t-shirt, hat, or even sign. I'd have to really, really believe in someone to do that and that's not how I vote. And with Trump fans acting like rabid college football fans, it turns me off to the idea even more. I think the rabid fandom is symptomatic of cheering for the "win" with little interest in what the win actually means for the fan or the fan's community/country.
As for this Fox story about billboards, it strikes me as grasping at straws and maybe even a bit of a feed into the "it must have been fraud" BS.
*I just bought a 2019 car a year ago. Prior to that I'd had a 2004 car I bought new. I'm glad I wasn't driving around with a Kerry bumper sticker for 15 years!
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Trumpeters tend to be pretty loud about it so that’s one reason you’ll see more signs. The other reason is Biden supporters likely don’t want to paint a big target on their house since Trump is also the party of more crazy nut jobs.
It's also because many Democrats have a little class and aren't interested in being in a cult. The argument is the last vestige of desperation, when you have nothing else.
Yeah. I liked Obama, kind of. I would never wear an Obama hat with some slogan, or a shirt, or anything else. I wouldnt even put a partisan sticker on my vehicle. Its silly, and I have my own identity without trying to latch on some political party. All those sill chotchky items like commemorative coins, mugs, etc. My god. get a life. Or the pickup trucks with the penis-compensating American and Trump flags on the back. Whoa. Cool!
In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
Signs that people see are meaningless. Traditionally, this is particularly true for president. I recall as a kid, most of the signs I'd see were for mayor or state legislative seats, because the candidates literally went door-to-door to ask people to do it. I don't recall yard signs for Reagan, Clinton, etc. Now, in the era of the internet, I'm seeing dozens of static Biden signs on my bike rides (through liberal Minneapolis and St. Paul). Well, I know Biden's going to do well there...that doesn't mean anything state/nationwide. Similarly, on longer trips, it's almost all Trump along the highways. That's a change in the times. We're just more into screaming about Prez nowadays as we get more divided.
But anyone who thinks the signs they see, matter a lick, doesn't really understand what anecdotal evidence is (or, rather, isn't).
I've never had a bumper sticker,* t-shirt, hat, or even sign. I'd have to really, really believe in someone to do that and that's not how I vote. And with Trump fans acting like rabid college football fans, it turns me off to the idea even more. I think the rabid fandom is symptomatic of cheering for the "win" with little interest in what the win actually means for the fan or the fan's community/country.
As for this Fox story about billboards, it strikes me as grasping at straws and maybe even a bit of a feed into the "it must have been fraud" BS.
*I just bought a 2019 car a year ago. Prior to that I'd had a 2004 car I bought new. I'm glad I wasn't driving around with a Kerry bumper sticker for 15 years!
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
Yes but I think the COVID really crystallized the recklessness of Trump. You can see how few undecided voters are left now.
And the belief that he beat Covid in 4 days probably cushioned that blow. If he starts getting worse again, it's going hurt his polling even more. (Of course, they'll do all they can to hide that).
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Yes but I think the COVID really crystallized the recklessness of Trump. You can see how few undecided voters are left now.
And the belief that he beat Covid in 4 days probably cushioned that blow. If he starts getting worse again, it's going hurt his polling even more. (Of course, they'll do all they can to hide that).
Or...if someone in his orbit (Christie, Giulianni, etc.) gets horribly ill.
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
when you call the biggest upset of the last 50 years it’s quite an accomplishment.
The mainstream pollsters are toast if they get this election wrong.
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
when you call the biggest upset of the last 50 years it’s quite an accomplishment.
The mainstream pollsters are toast if they get this election wrong.
Mainstream pollsters? Haha, what? The point is every squirrel finds a nut.
Rasmussen was also the least accurate in 2018 btw. And their 2016 call had Hillary winning the popular vote by 2 points. If Biden's leading the national popular vote by at least 7 he wins. Right now he's averaging somewhere around 8.5.
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
when you call the biggest upset of the last 50 years it’s quite an accomplishment.
The mainstream pollsters are toast if they get this election wrong.
Mainstream pollsters? Haha, what? The point is every squirrel finds a nut.
Rasmussen was also the least accurate in 2018 btw. And their 2016 call had Hillary winning the popular vote by 2 points. If Biden's leading the national popular vote by at least 7 he wins. Right now he's averaging somewhere around 8.5.
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
when you call the biggest upset of the last 50 years it’s quite an accomplishment.
The mainstream pollsters are toast if they get this election wrong.
Mainstream pollsters? Haha, what? The point is every squirrel finds a nut.
Rasmussen was also the least accurate in 2018 btw. And their 2016 call had Hillary winning the popular vote by 2 points. If Biden's leading the national popular vote by at least 7 he wins. Right now he's averaging somewhere around 8.5.
Even Rasmussen today has Biden up 12
There's probably a bit of non response bias. That can happen after a big partisan event. Some people on the side that got hurt don't want to talk. Pollsters will take that into account and adjust but you don't know if you got the numbers right. I would think the numbers come back down. No way does Biden win 57% or whatever. Naturally right center people will drift back after some better news. But I still think there's a real lasting bump.
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Kinda like how for the last day Hillary's emails have been their top story on their website. They are such a farce.
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In the past few weeks, I have seen several cars with a TRUMP 2020 NO MORE BULLSHIT bumper sticker. This is with my kids in the car. This is our president. These are (I would assume) adults who buy this sticker and attach it to the paint of their $30,000 vehicle. WTF. Can we all just go to time out?
people were buying dog collars and hideous track suits with the band's name on it. I bought a fucking balaclava that is itchy as fuck and i'll probably never wear just because I love Jeff Ament. and how many thousands have pearl jam/stickman tattoos? talk about a cult. LOL
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Interesting to see from Iowa. 538 now just moved to 16/84. It's moved a lot since the debates.
What was interesting about Iowa was from Gern's post from the Quinnipiac polls.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
They had the guy from Trafalgar on recently. It's astounding how many people are getting recognition for calling one election - mainly Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
Semi-related note - really getting into the predictit betting market now. Good times.
2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
when you call the biggest upset of the last 50 years it’s quite an accomplishment.
The mainstream pollsters are toast if they get this election wrong.
Rasmussen was also the least accurate in 2018 btw. And their 2016 call had Hillary winning the popular vote by 2 points. If Biden's leading the national popular vote by at least 7 he wins. Right now he's averaging somewhere around 8.5.
Their electoral prediction is currently 343 to 195, and they say Biden is likely to even go above that.