Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
Seriously? You’re actually using the phrase “black on black”? I have to say, I’m kinda surprised to read that here, though I guess I shouldn’t be. It’s a sickeningly dismissive phrase.
People are people, and most crime is relational. That means most crime is committed against people in your immediate family or neighbourhood or social circle. Why do we never hear the media talking about white on white crime? There’s certainly plenty of that.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
It’s a phrase with all sorts of connotations when you dig down, that’s for sure.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
And you don’t post any as far as I can tell. I guess you don’t care enough? Whether it’s black on black gun crime, repub red state pandemics of gun violence or dem city mayhem. It’s just “responsible” gun owners doing their thing.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
You should be right, but Halifax only likes to talk about gun violence incidents that fit a certain criteria.
But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.
Fair enough, and I'm not saying every shooting should be posted. But where's the criticism of the leaders of those violence cities? Shouldn't the mayor of Chicago be called upon to fight for gun reform more than anyone?
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.
Fair enough, and I'm not saying every shooting should be posted. But where's the criticism of the leaders of those violence cities? Shouldn't the mayor of Chicago be called upon to fight for gun reform more than anyone?
Read my previous longer post. I think we all know it's more complicated than that.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
You should be right, but Halifax only likes to talk about gun violence incidents that fit a certain criteria.
But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
It is indeed used to take away from the seriousness of the crime. It’s used to bolster the idea that black people are inherently more violent and dangerous, and as a means of distancing whites people from the issue.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
You should be right, but Halifax only likes to talk about gun violence incidents that fit a certain criteria.
But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
It is indeed used to take away from the seriousness of the crime. It’s used to bolster the idea that black people are inherently more violent and dangerous, and as a means of distancing whites people from the issue.
Nothing like seeing your family on the 4th and hearing comments like, "they should shoot the protestors" and "if they don't like it here they can go back to Africa". H-O-L-Y Fucki! My wife often wonders how I turned out the way I did with that type of upbringing. It was not uncommon to hear racial slurs as a kid and still to this day, but yeah, all lives matter. Sure.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
Not just you F Me In The Brain, most of these,,, Look at how racist these rebuttals actually are. One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
You should be right, but Halifax only likes to talk about gun violence incidents that fit a certain criteria.
But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
It is indeed used to take away from the seriousness of the crime. It’s used to bolster the idea that black people are inherently more violent and dangerous, and as a means of distancing whites people from the issue.
Well that seems to be working well around here.
Sure is. It allows white people to say “this has nothing to do with us”.
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Nothing like seeing your family on the 4th and hearing comments like, "they should shoot the protestors" and "if they don't like it here they can go back to Africa". H-O-L-Y Fucki! My wife often wonders how I turned out the way I did with that type of upbringing. It was not uncommon to hear racial slurs as a kid and still to this day, but yeah, all lives matter. Sure.
Oh man! That's tough. I guess I'm lucky not having to deal with relatives of that mind.
Only once in my life have I had a relative prove to be blatantly racist. Some time back in the early 60's when I was a preteen, my mother's aunt came to stay with us for a few days. We took her up to San Francisco to show her the town and as we were driving around in one part of the city, my great aunt suddenly yelled out, "There sure are a lot of n****rs around here!" I was shocked to hear a relative toss out the N-word so casually. My mother was visibly unhappy and flustered and told her, "We don't use that kind of language around here!"
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
You should be right, but Halifax only likes to talk about gun violence incidents that fit a certain criteria.
But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
It is indeed used to take away from the seriousness of the crime. It’s used to bolster the idea that black people are inherently more violent and dangerous, and as a means of distancing whites people from the issue.
Well that seems to be working well around here.
Sure is. It allows white people to say “this has nothing to do with us”.
Right, and what they really mean when they refer to the rise in shootings in Chicago, NYC and the like, is look at all that black on black crime. They sure aren't talking about the affluent white neighborhoods. Let's focus on those inner city communities where socio-economic disparity is at its highest due to decades and decades of inequity.
It's a hopeless situation...
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Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
Not just you F Me In The Brain, most of these,,, Look at how racist these rebuttals actually are. One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
I'd be interested to hear ON FOX the average black citizen or better, a townhall deal to get a better perspective of the black experience from various parts of the country. You know. to see what kind of consensus can be found from the community .
side note, any segment with Spicer isnt worthy of seeing.
edit, my bad, didnt realize it was from an even more worthless platform than fox.
2 not sure I care to hear from anyone associated with Liberty University..... no matter who they are.
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Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
Not just you F Me In The Brain, most of these,,, Look at how racist these rebuttals actually are. One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
Well....I dismiss the idea that the African American and Latino communities think that Trump is the best president for their concerns since Lincoln can be supported by the view of one person. I find the stance you are taking to be nonsensical. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am entitled to comment that it is an opinion shared by exactly Zero black people I know and Zero Latino people I know (or am related to, being part Latino myself.). I do find it to be a laughable idea. A joke.
The President does not care about black people. This should be clear by now. He only cares about silver spoon, blue bloods. He doesn't care about anyone else.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
Not just you F Me In The Brain, most of these,,, Look at how racist these rebuttals actually are. One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
Well....I dismiss the idea that the African American and Latino communities think that Trump is the best president for their concerns since Lincoln can be supported by the view of one person. I find the stance you are taking to be nonsensical. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am entitled to comment that it is an opinion shared by exactly Zero black people I know and Zero Latino people I know (or am related to, being part Latino myself.). I do find it to be a laughable idea. A joke.
The President does not care about black people. This should be clear by now. He only cares about silver spoon, blue bloods. He doesn't care about anyone else.
This is incorrect. He doesn't care about "silver spoon" and "blue bloods." Nor does he care about black people or white people. He ONLY cares about himself. That's it. Nobody else. Okay, maybe he cares about Ivanka too. But even that's a stretch.
Nothing like seeing your family on the 4th and hearing comments like, "they should shoot the protestors" and "if they don't like it here they can go back to Africa". H-O-L-Y Fucki! My wife often wonders how I turned out the way I did with that type of upbringing. It was not uncommon to hear racial slurs as a kid and still to this day, but yeah, all lives matter. Sure.
Oh man! That's tough. I guess I'm lucky not having to deal with relatives of that mind.
Only once in my life have I had a relative prove to be blatantly racist. Some time back in the early 60's when I was a preteen, my mother's aunt came to stay with us for a few days. We took her up to San Francisco to show her the town and as we were driving around in one part of the city, my great aunt suddenly yelled out, "There sure are a lot of n****rs around here!" I was shocked to hear a relative toss out the N-word so casually. My mother was visibly unhappy and flustered and told her, "We don't use that kind of language around here!"
When I was in my early teens, I was driving with my stepdad and he got cut off by a black driver. He screamed “nigger!” at the guy.
He lost most of my respect (THIS is my mom’s new husband???), and I never looked at him the same again.
*He also lobbed a grapefruit from 13 floors up at those marching in one of LA’s pride parades in the 80s. Jesus f’in christo.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
Seriously? You’re actually using the phrase “black on black”? I have to say, I’m kinda surprised to read that here, though I guess I shouldn’t be. It’s a sickeningly dismissive phrase.
People are people, and most crime is relational. That means most crime is committed against people in your immediate family or neighbourhood or social circle. Why do we never hear the media talking about white on white crime? There’s certainly plenty of that.
Well I just watched a documentary about black conservatives and they were using that phrase. But they sure weren't using it in a dismissive manner. They were using it in a "This is a big problem" manner. And one that they want their community to take accountability for and eradicate. They argue that absentee fathers is the biggest problem in the black community (70% of black kids today grow up without two parents), and that leads to many young black men joining gangs in search of family/community/father-figures, which leads to.....well I don't want to say it. After all, it's a sickeningly dismissive phrase!
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
Seriously? You’re actually using the phrase “black on black”? I have to say, I’m kinda surprised to read that here, though I guess I shouldn’t be. It’s a sickeningly dismissive phrase.
People are people, and most crime is relational. That means most crime is committed against people in your immediate family or neighbourhood or social circle. Why do we never hear the media talking about white on white crime? There’s certainly plenty of that.
Well I just watched a documentary about black conservatives and they were using that phrase. But they sure weren't using it in a dismissive manner. They were using it in a "This is a big problem" manner. And one that they want their community to take accountability for and eradicate. They argue that absentee fathers is the biggest problem in the black community (70% of black kids today grow up without two parents), and that leads to many young black men joining gangs in search of family/community/father-figures, which leads to.....well I don't want to say it. After all, it's a sickeningly dismissive phrase!
Yes, it is, and one ignores the reality of the data we have on crime.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
I always view being told race within crime stats isn’t important is a way of trying to avoid that conversation. It’s important. Heres the stats from FBI data
Why can’t we talk about this? When blacks make up about 15% of the country, but we have data like this we can’t talk about it?
B on W violence is twice as high as W on B. Black deaths make up almost half the victims.
Everyone knows gang violence is a major problem, but we can’t talk about it.
Now I don’t think murder and violence is a black problem. It’s mostly a poverty problem. and a few other major issues that effect black communities more. But we won’t solve anything if we can’t talk about it.
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Nothing like seeing your family on the 4th and hearing comments like, "they should shoot the protestors" and "if they don't like it here they can go back to Africa". H-O-L-Y Fucki! My wife often wonders how I turned out the way I did with that type of upbringing. It was not uncommon to hear racial slurs as a kid and still to this day, but yeah, all lives matter. Sure.
Oh man! That's tough. I guess I'm lucky not having to deal with relatives of that mind.
Only once in my life have I had a relative prove to be blatantly racist. Some time back in the early 60's when I was a preteen, my mother's aunt came to stay with us for a few days. We took her up to San Francisco to show her the town and as we were driving around in one part of the city, my great aunt suddenly yelled out, "There sure are a lot of n****rs around here!" I was shocked to hear a relative toss out the N-word so casually. My mother was visibly unhappy and flustered and told her, "We don't use that kind of language around here!"
When I was in my early teens, I was driving with my stepdad and he got cut off by a black driver. He screamed “nigger!” at the guy.
He lost most of my respect (THIS is my mom’s new husband???), and I never looked at him the same again.
*He also lobbed a grapefruit from 13 floors up at those marching in one of LA’s pride parades in the 80s. Jesus f’in christo.
That sucks! Your mom must have seen something good in the guy. Maybe she wasn't aware of his race issues?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
I always view being told race within crime stats isn’t important is a way of trying to avoid that conversation. It’s important. Heres the stats from FBI data
Why can’t we talk about this? When blacks make up about 15% of the country, but we have data like this we can’t talk about it?
B on W violence is twice as high as W on B. Black deaths make up almost half the victims.
Everyone knows gang violence is a major problem, but we can’t talk about it.
Now I don’t think murder and violence is a black problem. It’s mostly a poverty problem. and a few other major issues that effect black communities more. But we won’t solve anything if we can’t talk about it.
I would say look deeper at the policies that have created communities with less opportunity and a higher incidence of crime. Redlining, eminent domain, FBI involvement in deligitimizing Black owned businesses especially bookstores up until the mid 1970’s, CIA funneling of crack cocaine to support Latin American guerilla armies. Racism against black people in general that is in fact contrary to popular belief still a thing. Never getting promised reparations to help create a more equitable society. Gentrification. Generational trauma among other things. But sure let’s say black on black crime so we don’t have to view it as a problem for all Americans especially the majority. When people talk about defunding the police and cutting the pentagons budget, they are talking about investing in these communities to make opportunities and an equitable society possible. Othering a group by saying black on black crime as if it isn’t a problem for all Americans is not helping anyone and does absolutely nothing to address the underlying causes or what can be done to improve the lives of people living in economically disadvantaged areas. The real conversation that people want to avoid is how long America has turned it’s backs on the most vulnerable populations, not just African Americans, but low income people of all races, trans, gay, Latinx, Asian and anyone that doesn’t fit into the societal definition of a “productive American”. The real question is what does dividing crime statistics by race actually bring to the discussion?
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Nothing like seeing your family on the 4th and hearing comments like, "they should shoot the protestors" and "if they don't like it here they can go back to Africa". H-O-L-Y Fucki! My wife often wonders how I turned out the way I did with that type of upbringing. It was not uncommon to hear racial slurs as a kid and still to this day, but yeah, all lives matter. Sure.
Oh man! That's tough. I guess I'm lucky not having to deal with relatives of that mind.
Only once in my life have I had a relative prove to be blatantly racist. Some time back in the early 60's when I was a preteen, my mother's aunt came to stay with us for a few days. We took her up to San Francisco to show her the town and as we were driving around in one part of the city, my great aunt suddenly yelled out, "There sure are a lot of n****rs around here!" I was shocked to hear a relative toss out the N-word so casually. My mother was visibly unhappy and flustered and told her, "We don't use that kind of language around here!"
When I was in my early teens, I was driving with my stepdad and he got cut off by a black driver. He screamed “nigger!” at the guy.
He lost most of my respect (THIS is my mom’s new husband???), and I never looked at him the same again.
*He also lobbed a grapefruit from 13 floors up at those marching in one of LA’s pride parades in the 80s. Jesus f’in christo.
That sucks! Your mom must have seen something good in the guy. Maybe she wasn't aware of his race issues?
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
I always view being told race within crime stats isn’t important is a way of trying to avoid that conversation. It’s important. Heres the stats from FBI data
Why can’t we talk about this? When blacks make up about 15% of the country, but we have data like this we can’t talk about it?
B on W violence is twice as high as W on B. Black deaths make up almost half the victims.
Everyone knows gang violence is a major problem, but we can’t talk about it.
Now I don’t think murder and violence is a black problem. It’s mostly a poverty problem. and a few other major issues that effect black communities more. But we won’t solve anything if we can’t talk about it.
I would say look deeper at the policies that have created communities with less opportunity and a higher incidence of crime. Redlining, eminent domain, FBI involvement in deligitimizing Black owned businesses especially bookstores up until the mid 1970’s, CIA funneling of crack cocaine to support Latin American guerilla armies. Racism against black people in general that is in fact contrary to popular belief still a thing. Never getting promised reparations to help create a more equitable society. Gentrification. Generational trauma among other things. But sure let’s say black on black crime so we don’t have to view it as a problem for all Americans especially the majority. When people talk about defunding the police and cutting the pentagons budget, they are talking about investing in these communities to make opportunities and an equitable society possible. Othering a group by saying black on black crime as if it isn’t a problem for all Americans is not helping anyone and does absolutely nothing to address the underlying causes or what can be done to improve the lives of people living in economically disadvantaged areas. The real conversation that people want to avoid is how long America has turned it’s backs on the most vulnerable populations, not just African Americans, but low income people of all races, trans, gay, Latinx, Asian and anyone that doesn’t fit into the societal definition of a “productive American”. The real question is what does dividing crime statistics by race actually bring to the discussion?
I acknowledge a deeper root to the problem, just didn’t get into it. Poverty is still the biggest contribution, but many things contribute to poverty. You can’t solve a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it. If gun violence is a problem, don’t just blindly make gun laws. Find out what the problem is and address that. Knowing how crime stats break down racially can help answer some of those questions.
You don’t see any value in knowing which communities statistically suffer from more crime? How would you know where to put those extra resources you were talking about if you don’t know that?
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Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
Not just you F Me In The Brain, most of these,,, Look at how racist these rebuttals actually are. One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
Well....I dismiss the idea that the African American and Latino communities think that Trump is the best president for their concerns since Lincoln can be supported by the view of one person. I find the stance you are taking to be nonsensical. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am entitled to comment that it is an opinion shared by exactly Zero black people I know and Zero Latino people I know (or am related to, being part Latino myself.). I do find it to be a laughable idea. A joke.
The President does not care about black people. This should be clear by now. He only cares about silver spoon, blue bloods. He doesn't care about anyone else.
This is incorrect. He doesn't care about "silver spoon" and "blue bloods." Nor does he care about black people or white people. He ONLY cares about himself. That's it. Nobody else. Okay, maybe he cares about Ivanka too. But even that's a stretch.
Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy. (A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments ) Keep on educating.....
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...
Feel free to spend your day searching the web for every shooting article you can find. I’d appreciate the help in illustrating how ridiculous of a problem “responsible” gun owners are. But I’ll make it easy:
And look at all those shootings in red states. When are the repubs going to do something about it?
I think you already have that covered: spending your day searching the web for shooting articles. You just cherry-pick what you post. You don't post when it's black-on-black crime or gun violence in democrat-ran cities...for obvious reasons.
I was under the impression that there is only crime and not crime. Not black on black crime or white on white crime or white on black crime etc...just crime. Am I wrong there? I feel like the term black on black crime gets thrown around to take away some level of the seriousness of crime. Gun violence is gun violence in my mind.
I always view being told race within crime stats isn’t important is a way of trying to avoid that conversation. It’s important. Heres the stats from FBI data
Why can’t we talk about this? When blacks make up about 15% of the country, but we have data like this we can’t talk about it?
B on W violence is twice as high as W on B. Black deaths make up almost half the victims.
Everyone knows gang violence is a major problem, but we can’t talk about it.
Now I don’t think murder and violence is a black problem. It’s mostly a poverty problem. and a few other major issues that effect black communities more. But we won’t solve anything if we can’t talk about it.
I would say look deeper at the policies that have created communities with less opportunity and a higher incidence of crime. Redlining, eminent domain, FBI involvement in deligitimizing Black owned businesses especially bookstores up until the mid 1970’s, CIA funneling of crack cocaine to support Latin American guerilla armies. Racism against black people in general that is in fact contrary to popular belief still a thing. Never getting promised reparations to help create a more equitable society. Gentrification. Generational trauma among other things. But sure let’s say black on black crime so we don’t have to view it as a problem for all Americans especially the majority. When people talk about defunding the police and cutting the pentagons budget, they are talking about investing in these communities to make opportunities and an equitable society possible. Othering a group by saying black on black crime as if it isn’t a problem for all Americans is not helping anyone and does absolutely nothing to address the underlying causes or what can be done to improve the lives of people living in economically disadvantaged areas. The real conversation that people want to avoid is how long America has turned it’s backs on the most vulnerable populations, not just African Americans, but low income people of all races, trans, gay, Latinx, Asian and anyone that doesn’t fit into the societal definition of a “productive American”. The real question is what does dividing crime statistics by race actually bring to the discussion?
I acknowledge a deeper root to the problem, just didn’t get into it. Poverty is still the biggest contribution, but many things contribute to poverty. You can’t solve a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it. If gun violence is a problem, don’t just blindly make gun laws. Find out what the problem is and address that. Knowing how crime stats break down racially can help answer some of those questions.
You don’t see any value in knowing which communities statistically suffer from more crime? How would you know where to put those extra resources you were talking about if you don’t know that?
We already know which communities statistically suffer from more crime - the ones that are socioeconomically disadvantaged. Their skin colour doesn't matter - it's the same story whether the inhabitants are white, Black, Latino, Asian, etc. "Breaking it down by race" adds nothing productive.
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But I don't think that term black-on-black crime is thrown around to take away from the seriousness of the crime. In fact, I've always felt the term originated from the black community, as if to say "What are we doing killing each other?" I used to think the same as you: what should it matter? But one thing I'm learning from this BLM movement is the black community is an actual community. I used to dismiss that. There's no "white community," so what are they talking about? But now I get it, from the moment the Europeans landed in West Africa in the late 1600's, they've had to band together. So "black-on-black crime" goes against that.
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One random (black guy) who you just dismiss because he don't fit your narrative?? The few who dare to wander off the plantation?? The hypocrisy and bigotry on your side is off the charts Just shrug them off, they dont count. Yup just Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas to you.
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I find the stance you are taking to be nonsensical. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am entitled to comment that it is an opinion shared by exactly Zero black people I know and Zero Latino people I know (or am related to, being part Latino myself.).
I do find it to be a laughable idea. A joke.
The President does not care about black people. This should be clear by now. He only cares about silver spoon, blue bloods. He doesn't care about anyone else.
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*He also lobbed a grapefruit from 13 floors up at those marching in one of LA’s pride parades in the 80s. Jesus f’in christo.
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Yes, it is, and one ignores the reality of the data we have on crime.
Heres the stats from FBI data
Homicide victims:
52% white, 43% black
For white victims:
White offender 81%
white offender 7%
B on W violence is twice as high as W on B.
Black deaths make up almost half the victims.
Now I don’t think murder and violence is a black problem. It’s mostly a poverty problem. and a few other major issues that effect black communities more. But we won’t solve anything if we can’t talk about it.
That sucks! Your mom must have seen something good in the guy. Maybe she wasn't aware of his race issues?
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And I feel like shit for speaking that truth.
You can’t solve a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it. If gun violence is a problem, don’t just blindly make gun laws. Find out what the problem is and address that. Knowing how crime stats break down racially can help answer some of those questions.
You don’t see any value in knowing which communities statistically suffer from more crime? How would you know where to put those extra resources you were talking about if you don’t know that?
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
We already know which communities statistically suffer from more crime - the ones that are socioeconomically disadvantaged. Their skin colour doesn't matter - it's the same story whether the inhabitants are white, Black, Latino, Asian, etc. "Breaking it down by race" adds nothing productive.