I’m Sorry But Gigaton Is A Major Dissapointment

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,591
    edited March 2020
    I think it’s just a reaction when the OP could have posted their review in the existing review thread but found the need to be a real troll and start a new thread to just piss people off. The guy wanted a reaction and they got it. Just a troll with nothing better to do.
    Hawk123 said:
    I think it’s just a reaction when the OP could have posted their review in the existing review thread but found the need to be a real troll and start a new thread to just piss people off. The guy wanted a reaction and they got it. Just a troll with nothing better to do.
    Agreed, it’s a troll job and everyone is feeding into it. Who cares about one dudes opinion of the album. If everyone else enjoys, go enjoy it. 
    In what way is he a troll? He expressed his opinion, and did so in X sentences stating his opinion. 

    If that is trolling. Then so is every opinion ever by any poster on here about the album.

    Don't be so over precious. This isn't the SEGA vs NINTENDO fight of the 90s. And you are not 12 years old.
    No, I’m right but thanks for playing.

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  • moses562
    moses562 Posts: 1,382
    Ok. To each their own. The liner notes are littered with the band members doing all sorts of things. Changing up instruments, composing the music and/or lyrics...you can hear various members on backing vocals.
    I’m thrilled and have been exclusively playing this. So many sounds and the lyrics are really punching hard! 
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  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    KN219077 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Arguing over whether it is ok for the OP to create a separate thread is kinda silly. I wouldn’t have been reading what he posted unless it was right at the top. The only way I view the forum is by going to Recent Discussions every time. I don’t spend my life on here and know all the etiquette but it is one of the few sites I visit daily. 

    The magic of the early records is they captured lightning in a bottle.  Obviously the original songs are classics. The song writing on the first 5 records is great. Most of us became fans in the early years and were along for the ride as their style expanded. The first record that felt stale to me was Avacado. The Brendan O’Brien remix breathed much needed life into it. 

    I think Josh Evans did a great job with this record capturing a lot of takes and moments that give these new songs life. DOTC is great, love who ever said and quick escape. (That meme above is hilarious.) These songs don’t sound overly rehearsed or stale on Gigaton. Like the song a lot but not sure why there are so many words crammed into the verses of 7 o’clock.  At least the verses have life to them (it sounds like an early take of the vocals that wasn’t already sung over and over to get perfectly right). Never destination to me feels like a stage rocker similar to Lightning Bolt that they will have fun playing live. Take the long way is cool. Just would like another louder more powerful song somewhere near the back end of the record. I don’t have the patience to get through River Cross. Seems a little self indulgent. Like retrograde. All in all I like gigaton for me is their best since riot act. Funny how now songs like Green Disease which weren’t the highlight of the album back then now feel like amazing PJ songs when looking back over the last 18 years. 
    That’s not because Green Disease is a great song, it’s because the songs after it were just not great (on the average, save for a couple of standout tracks on each album)
    That’s part of it but it is also a bit of nostalgia for 2003 PJ. Kind of like when I told Alexa to play PJ the other night in the kids room and Dissident came on and I realized there is no way anything new this band does will satisfy their fans like the purely magical early songs they latched onto when they became fans.  
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,182
    eboweddie said:
    Gigaton will find a place in this drawer!!! When i get it. I love it. 
    Umm, where is your copy of Self Titled? Have to have them all to be a TRUE fan!
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  • se7v7en
    se7v7en Philadelphia, PA Posts: 329
    KC138045 said:
    I was very excited to to crank this new album on my way home from work yesterday. It started out great with Who Ever Said and I was loving it up thorough Quick Escape then it quickly went downhill. I kept waiting for the next song to bring it back but that didn’t happen.  Ive listened to it now multiple times trying to like it but I just don’t. I personally put this as their worse album and it sounds more of an Ed solo album than a full band effort in my opinion. 
    You said that u instantly loved the first third of the album.  If some of the middle and  back grows on you seems like it wont end up being a huge disappointment overall.  Seven Oclock by the way is my favorite PJ song since MITS.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    edited March 2020
    JDime20 said:
    Why start a new thread just to put it down? There are plenty of others already started to state your opinion in. 
    Why start a new thread to say it’s great? Or that it sounds just like PJ? Cmon 
  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,201
    CO278952 said:
    KN219077 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Arguing over whether it is ok for the OP to create a separate thread is kinda silly. I wouldn’t have been reading what he posted unless it was right at the top. The only way I view the forum is by going to Recent Discussions every time. I don’t spend my life on here and know all the etiquette but it is one of the few sites I visit daily. 

    The magic of the early records is they captured lightning in a bottle.  Obviously the original songs are classics. The song writing on the first 5 records is great. Most of us became fans in the early years and were along for the ride as their style expanded. The first record that felt stale to me was Avacado. The Brendan O’Brien remix breathed much needed life into it. 

    I think Josh Evans did a great job with this record capturing a lot of takes and moments that give these new songs life. DOTC is great, love who ever said and quick escape. (That meme above is hilarious.) These songs don’t sound overly rehearsed or stale on Gigaton. Like the song a lot but not sure why there are so many words crammed into the verses of 7 o’clock.  At least the verses have life to them (it sounds like an early take of the vocals that wasn’t already sung over and over to get perfectly right). Never destination to me feels like a stage rocker similar to Lightning Bolt that they will have fun playing live. Take the long way is cool. Just would like another louder more powerful song somewhere near the back end of the record. I don’t have the patience to get through River Cross. Seems a little self indulgent. Like retrograde. All in all I like gigaton for me is their best since riot act. Funny how now songs like Green Disease which weren’t the highlight of the album back then now feel like amazing PJ songs when looking back over the last 18 years. 
    That’s not because Green Disease is a great song, it’s because the songs after it were just not great (on the average, save for a couple of standout tracks on each album)
    That’s part of it but it is also a bit of nostalgia for 2003 PJ. Kind of like when I told Alexa to play PJ the other night in the kids room and Dissident came on and I realized there is no way anything new this band does will satisfy their fans like the purely magical early songs they latched onto when they became fans.  
    I get nastolgia for sure, but as someone that came in late to the pj game, there’s no way that anything on the last few albums compares to stuff like present tense, in hiding, light years, etc. The band has moved toward adult contemporary in the backspacer/lb albums. Luckily Gigaton sees them moving away from that trend, save for a couple songs like retrograde
  • eboweddie
    eboweddie Posts: 1,104
    I have it in the car!!!! 

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,010
    I think it’s just a reaction when the OP could have posted their review in the existing review thread but found the need to be a real troll and start a new thread to just piss people off. The guy wanted a reaction and they got it. Just a troll with nothing better to do.
    Hawk123 said:
    I think it’s just a reaction when the OP could have posted their review in the existing review thread but found the need to be a real troll and start a new thread to just piss people off. The guy wanted a reaction and they got it. Just a troll with nothing better to do.
    Agreed, it’s a troll job and everyone is feeding into it. Who cares about one dudes opinion of the album. If everyone else enjoys, go enjoy it. 
    In what way is he a troll? He expressed his opinion, and did so in X sentences stating his opinion. 

    If that is trolling. Then so is every opinion ever by any poster on here about the album.

    Don't be so over precious. This isn't the SEGA vs NINTENDO fight of the 90s. And you are not 12 years old.
    No, I’m right but thanks for playing.

    Now that’s funny. But again, I’m still right. Thanks Becky!
  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    At least hopefully you are pleased that Can’t Deny Me was left off
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,182
    eboweddie said:
    I have it in the car!!!! 
    Okay, you can stay.
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,010
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
    He Has Spoken. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,591
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
    Speaking of "trolling".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    The best parts of this thread are the “just ok is not okay” and the “sure Jan” images.  

    For me personally I’m not feeling the album yet; it may grow on me, but regardless, DOTC is an instant favorite and if I end up liking any of the others that’s a bonus.  
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,010
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
    Speaking of "trolling".
    Haha, wrong but thanks for playing Becky. I forgot about all the winners that come out of the woodwork when an album is released and piss and moan that even flow wasn’t re released. Have a good day complaining on here Becky!
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
    If you are a Pearl Jam fan you would respect other people’s rights to their opinions.  I am glad you enjoy the new album.  See ya.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,591
    edited March 2020
    If you are a Pearl Jam “fan” and only like one song on gigaton then something is wrong with you. I really like this record a lot. 8/10
    Speaking of "trolling".
    Haha, wrong but thanks for playing Becky. I forgot about all the winners that come out of the woodwork when an album is released and piss and moan that even flow wasn’t re released. Have a good day complaining on here Becky!
    What have I complained about regarding the record?

    Just drop the shit attitude and the sheep mentality. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,638
    for me My experience has been similar to when Avacado came out.  That one took me a solid three weeks to get into. I’m getting into this slowly...just starting to feel it.
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    At least this opinion was written with more respect than some other threads that were started. 

    Rock on, Gigaton! Great album. 
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