Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

guitar101

Zac Brown Band has cancelled their spring tour.  I wonder if the Lumineers or Billie Eilish will cancel next. 

RockMama

danceswithsquirrels said:

Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.  

What if one of those people is your mother or grandmother who you infect after returning home from traveling?

epbadger

know1 said:

Have they canceled the Gigaton listening experiences? 

No not yet

ddeschler

That prospective tour schedule is pretty cool.  Also, ambitious.  Can't play everywhere, but I'm sure the Boston and Philly people will be after you with pitchforks for leaving them off.

Tim Simmons

also, China ONLY has that many dead because they took very drastic measures, so what do we need to do so that we don’t do worse? 

But also we can’t just look at deaths. We have to look at how busy hospitals were. How many died because they couldn’t get the care they needed from non corona sickness. And then the costs that people will have to incur from hospital stays from surviving. Doing anything to minimize spread is not insanity. Insanity is just wait and seeing what happens. 

epbadger

danceswithsquirrels said:

Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.  

agree...how bout we dont tour during flu season....c'mon another thing for us to panic about....too soon

Tim Simmons

We have vaccinations to deal with the flu. We don’t for this yet.

also, notice that larger bands generally don’t tour during flu season. They tour during the spring through fall. Smaller bands don’t really have the choice. 

josevolution

Last week the Baffoon had stated that the virus was mostly contained lol 

ddeschler

Dow up +1,100 today.  Whole thing overblown according to the cognoscenti/illuminati.  Can we put the tour back on now?

craigraether

ddeschler said:

Dow up +1,100 today.  Whole thing overblown according to the cognoscenti/illuminati.  Can we put the tour back on now?

Could you imagine, after everyone scrambling to get refunds on flights and hotels, a day latter... "Just Kidding"!

on2legs

Tim Simmons said:

So they

• Planned a tour 
• Booked travel for the band and crew 
• Tied it to a new album release date
• Promoted the tour 
• Rehearsed for the tour 
• Loaded up roadcases and the stage 

Only to cancel it, so they could stick it to the president (well, the government generally) in 2 lines of an 18 sentence press release. 


that right?

That’s what makes it so diabolical.  It’s a conspiracy hiding in plain sight!

SVRDhand13

craigraether said:

I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?

Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.

This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.

BTW no F5in ... ive had time on my hands!

Maybe Canada Shows can be done in May -

Apollo Show May 23rd -

European Shows- June 23-July 24

Start in Canada Aug 12

Toronto Wednesday Aug 12

Ottawa Friday Aug 14

Quebec Sunday Aug 16

Hamilton Tuesday Aug 18

(NEW) Baltimore 1 -Friday Aug21

Baltimore 2 ( Makeup) Saturday - Aug22

NY-MSG (Makeup)  - Monday Aug 24

(NEW) NY MSG 2 Tuesday Aug 25

Nashville - Thursday Aug 27

St Louis - Saturday Aug 29

Oklahoma City - Monday Aug 31

Denver - Thursday Sept 3

(NEW) Kansas City Saturday Sept 5

(NEW) Minneapolis Monday Sept 7

(NEW) Milwaukee Wednesday Sept 9

(NEW) Chicago - Saturday Sept 11

(NEW) Chicago -Sunday Sept 12

(NEW) Detroit  - Tuesday - Sept 14

(NEW) Pittsburgh  - Thursday Sept 16

SEA HEAR NOW NJ Shore - Sept 19

(NEW) Atlanta - Tuesday Sept 21

(NEW) Dallas  - Thursday Sept 23

OHANA -  Sunday Sept 27th

LA 1 Wednesday Sept 30th

LA 2 Thursday OCT 1st

OAK 1 - Saturday Oct 3rd

OAK 2 - Sunday Oct 4th

(NEW) Portland - Tuesday Oct 6th

(NEW) Tacoma  - Thursday Oct 8th

Phoenix  - Saturday Oct 10th

San Diego  - Monday Oct 12th

This is dedication and I would gladly take those northeast shows 

RF283499

Sure there may be concerts happening all over .... and especially in Austin...this week. 2 weeks from now it may be a completely different situation.

They did the right thing and gave us all time to cancel travel plans as early as possible. Thank you PJ.

Vedd Hedd

I'm really not trying to call anyone names, but the paranoid Trumpers are REALLY playing in another dimension now.  Like, this is like Scientology but worse. 

mpedone

SVRDhand13 said:

craigraether said:

I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?

Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.

This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.

BTW no F5in ... ive had time on my hands!

Maybe Canada Shows can be done in May -

Apollo Show May 23rd -

European Shows- June 23-July 24

Start in Canada Aug 12

Toronto Wednesday Aug 12

Ottawa Friday Aug 14

Quebec Sunday Aug 16

Hamilton Tuesday Aug 18

(NEW) Baltimore 1 -Friday Aug21

Baltimore 2 ( Makeup) Saturday - Aug22

NY-MSG (Makeup)  - Monday Aug 24

(NEW) NY MSG 2 Tuesday Aug 25

Nashville - Thursday Aug 27

St Louis - Saturday Aug 29

Oklahoma City - Monday Aug 31

Denver - Thursday Sept 3

(NEW) Kansas City Saturday Sept 5

(NEW) Minneapolis Monday Sept 7

(NEW) Milwaukee Wednesday Sept 9

(NEW) Chicago - Saturday Sept 11

(NEW) Chicago -Sunday Sept 12

(NEW) Detroit  - Tuesday - Sept 14

(NEW) Pittsburgh  - Thursday Sept 16

SEA HEAR NOW NJ Shore - Sept 19

(NEW) Atlanta - Tuesday Sept 21

(NEW) Dallas  - Thursday Sept 23

OHANA -  Sunday Sept 27th

LA 1 Wednesday Sept 30th

LA 2 Thursday OCT 1st

OAK 1 - Saturday Oct 3rd

OAK 2 - Sunday Oct 4th

(NEW) Portland - Tuesday Oct 6th

(NEW) Tacoma  - Thursday Oct 8th

Phoenix  - Saturday Oct 10th

San Diego  - Monday Oct 12th

This is dedication and I would gladly take those northeast shows 

Basically the same pattern of Toronto/Balt/Nashville/StL? Hell yes. The only way that would be more perfect is if they were 2 months later - during hockey season!

1ThoughtKnown

SP96445 said:

I am self-quarantining myself from this thread

Good idea.  I’ll do the same before I’m infected 

foodboy

just because other bands are touring doesn't mean its the best idea. if this virus ramps up most tours will come to a halt. do you think this band with their history wants anyone to catch this virus at one of their shows and be responsible for a death. i doubt it. i had a very strong feeling this would happen. i can't see any new dates until more time goes by and we see where we are as far as spreading. the thing is this is just starting in many areas. most likely there will be many areas shut down for 2 weeks to try and get a stop of this virus. or even just to give hospitals a chance to get some people out. even if they came up with a vaccine it would still take a year or more to get enough doses . for all you madonna fans out there she cancelled her tour as well. i went to see nathaniel ratecliffe the other night and i have to say i didn't feel comfortable being there. right now at present the risk is still low but any day it can change. some people show no signs yet test positive. these are the ones who will spread this virus the most.  the recovery period is 6 weeks. its scary because of the unknown. better to be safe than sorry. lets just get everyone through this and some where down the road we will all be at some arena enjoying ourselves again. its disappointing for now but the right thing to do. 

pledgeagrievance

I don’t think people from all over the world travel and attend multiple Post Malone and Chris Stapleton shows. For acts like that it’s mostly regional people attending. PJ knowing a lot of people from all over the world will be traveling to all their shows has something to do with their decision to cancel I’m sure 

link93

Washington Governor to announce restricting all sports, Concerts public gatherings to 250 and under. If it is more than that events will be cancelled. Wonder how long until we see restrictions like this all over.

curmudgeoness

JB16057 said:

"Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?

Yes. South Korea seems to have succeeded in flattening the curve. They have done a LOT of testing (drive-through testing!).

For the "only 1000 cases" crowd: the number of reported cases in the US has doubled in 36 hours. Refresher on exponential growth:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth 

Megan McArdle discusses exponential growth in today's (Tuesday's) Washington post. She used an example of lily pads, but I've more often heard the examples of money or rice: a suitor or a faithful servant requests a dowry or reward of just one dollar or one grain of rice, with the stipulation that that payment doubles every day for a month. By the end of the month, the clever suitor/servant has bankrupted the father/employer.

Expect 10,000 cases in a week, 100,000 cases two weeks from now.