Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Tim Simmons said:
    So they
    • Planned a tour 
    • Booked travel for the band and crew 
    • Tied it to a new album release date
    • Promoted the tour 
    • Rehearsed for the tour 
    • Loaded up roadcases and the stage 

    Only to cancel it, so they could stick it to the president (well, the government generally) in 2 lines of an 18 sentence press release. 


    that right?

    You know you’ve lost when you post garbage like this.

    So you’re saying they included the statement but had no intent behind it?
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,414
    vedpunk said:
    Post Malone is playing a 20k arena in Austin tonight and Chris Stapleton is playing that same arena on Thursday.  That's just this week.
    Pearl Jam does not operate based on anything Post Malone or Chris Stapleton do or say. They are industry leaders for our time and will continue to set examples how, when, why and where they see fit. It does not matter if some of their fan base disagrees. It doesn't matter to them what the hell Post Malone or Chris Stapleton say, think or do.

    After this is all said and done, I believe many other acts and organizations will postpone/cancel events. And when it is looked back upon, PJ will be the name people remember for once again taking the stand that they saw fit, whether it was the popular opinion at the time.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • SP96445
    SP96445 Posts: 215
    I am self-quarantining myself from this thread
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    vedpunk said:
    Sorry not sure where you’re going with this.  Maybe reread the past few pages or let it go. 
    Where I'm going with it is that this would be a very elaborate plan just to take "advantage of a situation" just stick it to the president. 

    OR

    Maybe this is a legitimate crises that they see as a bigger problem, and that figuring out new logistics for the tour is a secondary issue. And maybe the frustration with the former leading to the latter because of poor government planning and leadership warranted a frustrated response from the band. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,414
    SP96445 said:
    I am self-quarantining myself from this thread
    You won't last an hour!  =)
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    And this is to say nothing of the other accusation of saying the "liberal media" wants to tank the markets and sow discord just so Trump isn't re-elected. 


    And I know this should lead to AMT, but we can't just be coming in here throwing around bonkers theories because we are upset that we don't get to see Pearl Jam in the next couple weeks.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 961
    Tim Simmons said:
    vedpunk said:
    Sorry not sure where you’re going with this.  Maybe reread the past few pages or let it go. 
    Where I'm going with it is that this would be a very elaborate plan just to take "advantage of a situation" just stick it to the president. 

    OR

    Maybe this is a legitimate crises that they see as a bigger problem, and that figuring out new logistics for the tour is a secondary issue. And maybe the frustration with the former leading to the latter because of poor government planning and leadership warranted a frustrated response from the band. 
    Wow, you are really reaching here...trying to spin this anyway you can to support your argument that nobody is having with you.  Nobody said they created an "elaborate plan" to stick it to the President.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    edited March 2020
    DewieCox said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    So they
    • Planned a tour 
    • Booked travel for the band and crew 
    • Tied it to a new album release date
    • Promoted the tour 
    • Rehearsed for the tour 
    • Loaded up roadcases and the stage 

    Only to cancel it, so they could stick it to the president (well, the government generally) in 2 lines of an 18 sentence press release. 


    that right?

    You know you’ve lost when you post garbage like this.

    So you’re saying they included the statement but had no intent behind it?

    Their intent was to notify fans that they postponed the tour and why. In their frustration (after seeing their community taken down by the virus) they (accurately) called out the government for lack of leadership. Thats it. 90% of the statement was not attacking the government. 

    Vedpunk said "they are taking advantage of the situation", meaning they are using the cancellation to stick it to the president and mentioning it in his statement. All I'm saying is, that seems like an overly elaborate way to dog the President and I think its a bonkers theory.
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • terrym08
    terrym08 Posts: 377
    SP96445 said:
    I am self-quarantining myself from this thread
    me too, too much politics.
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    terrym08 said:
    SP96445 said:
    I am self-quarantining myself from this thread
    me too, too much politics.
    +1. I’m out. Too much insanity. It’s a fucking virus. Unless there is mandatory quarantine and lock down of travel, it is going to spread.  But let’s keep the political arguments going. That will surely help
    2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    "Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

    Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    Taiwan

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/10/21171722/taiwan-coronavirus-china-social-distancing-quarantine
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited March 2020
    I have put a lot thought into this so bear with me. What could a fall rescheduled tour look like?
    Last date in Europe is July 24th, keep in mind all these dates i came up with would have the same day of week for the postponed shows.
    This is just to show how the fall and spring tour legs could be combined, New shows can be sold bringing in new revenue and making all of us somewhat whole. This provides the virus peaks in the US end of March.

    BTW no F5in ... ive had time on my hands!

    Maybe Canada Shows can be done in May -

    Apollo Show May 23rd -

    European Shows- June 23-July 24

    Start in Canada Aug 12
    Toronto Wednesday Aug 12
    Ottawa Friday Aug 14
    Quebec Sunday Aug 16
    Hamilton Tuesday Aug 18
    (NEW) Baltimore 1 -Friday Aug21
    Baltimore 2 ( Makeup) Saturday - Aug22
    NY-MSG (Makeup)  - Monday Aug 24
    (NEW) NY MSG 2 Tuesday Aug 25
    Nashville - Thursday Aug 27
    St Louis - Saturday Aug 29
    Oklahoma City - Monday Aug 31
    Denver - Thursday Sept 3
    (NEW) Kansas City Saturday Sept 5
    (NEW) Minneapolis Monday Sept 7
    (NEW) Milwaukee Wednesday Sept 9
    (NEW) Chicago - Saturday Sept 11
    (NEW) Chicago -Sunday Sept 12
    (NEW) Detroit  - Tuesday - Sept 14
    (NEW) Pittsburgh  - Thursday Sept 16
    SEA HEAR NOW NJ Shore - Sept 19
    (NEW) Atlanta - Tuesday Sept 21
    (NEW) Dallas  - Thursday Sept 23
    OHANA -  Sunday Sept 27th
    LA 1 Wednesday Sept 30th
    LA 2 Thursday OCT 1st
    OAK 1 - Saturday Oct 3rd
    OAK 2 - Sunday Oct 4th
    (NEW) Portland - Tuesday Oct 6th
    (NEW) Tacoma  - Thursday Oct 8th
    Phoenix  - Saturday Oct 10th
    San Diego  - Monday Oct 12th
    Post edited by craigraether on
  • WMAmorican
    WMAmorican Posts: 248
    JB16057 said:
    "Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

    Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
    When the Trump administration first banned flights from China, they were hysterically called "racist" by all of Eddie's media and political friends on the left...from Politico, Feb. 4:

    "The Trump administration’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could undercut international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent."

    Because that's what's most important, not antagonizing the Communist Chinese who lied, tried to hide it, and ultimately helped it spread around the world. Oh, and hurting people's feelings, because being racist is a way bigger deal than the spread of a deadly disease.

    Look, I'm no big fan of the Stable Genius, but to claim that we didn't at least try to "get ahead of this" is asinine and ignorant.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    Or, push manufacturing new tests so that they could get out there to test people and have a policy for dealing with incoming international flights. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    also this

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Have they canceled the Gigaton listening experiences? 
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    Not yet. I could see that happening. But that could be on an area by area basis. Which is reasonable.

  • danceswithsquirrels
    danceswithsquirrels Posts: 87
    Only time will tell. The death toll in China is around 3,100. Their population is 4 times the U.S. Crudely, if we "handle" it as well as they have we should have less than 1,000 deaths. China took pretty severe measures that simply will not fly here. So we shall see. When you consider a population of 1.4 billion people and 3,100 dead, seems like all this is just insanity.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,948
    Though, shouldn’t we try our hardest to prevent as many people as possible from dying? 

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