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RatherStarved

Anywhere in the southeast really

RatherStarved

An Orange County (CA) beach this weekend was pretty crowded. I believe that is the same state and county as Dana Point. There’s hope for Ohana yet.  Still 5 months away.  

ComeToTX

That will just lead to a spike of cases and another round of shutdowns.

elwayvedder

wife not working thus not earning $. wish they would announce either way just so i know if i can get the $900 back soon 

PSUS2H

kst said:

An Orange County (CA) beach this weekend was pretty crowded. I believe that is the same state and county as Dana Point. There’s hope for Ohana yet.  Still 5 months away.  

yeah, Doheny State beach is in Dana Point, CA.  Which is in Orange County.  

Luckytwn1

kst said:

An Orange County (CA) beach this weekend was pretty crowded. I believe that is the same state and county as Dana Point. There’s hope for Ohana yet.  Still 5 months away.  

And tomorrow there’s now a vote to close those beaches. 

If that doesn’t happen, you can expect the Governor to step in. It’s also worth noting that even the open beaches are different than having people packed tightly against a stage. If you can’t tell from the festivals already being canceled from the fall, let’s just say California is not going to have festivals after all the other festivals were wiped out.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2020/04/27/newsom-beach-crowding-example-what-not-do/648852000/

Newsom: beach crowding example of 'what not to do'

RatherStarved

Just trying to stay positive and look for signs of hope.

Luckytwn1

There’s a difference between hope and denial. Ohana is not happening in 2020 and to be honest, I don’t know why tickets remain on sale especially considering the cancellations already for the fall in less impacted areas. 

gotthebottle

kst said:

An Orange County (CA) beach this weekend was pretty crowded. I believe that is the same state and county as Dana Point. There’s hope for Ohana yet.  Still 5 months away.  

Dude..yes, Newport Beach is just one up from Dana Point....and no, this has nothing to do with whether a festival will go on. 

bb4packers

It's only a matter of time before PJ releases a statement similar to the one Ben Folds just sent out:

A Word About 2020.

This is the official announcement that my touring for 2020 is now canceled and will be rescheduled at the first opportunity in 2021. That’s the important part, but if you’re interested, here’s why I’ve made that decision now: 

Infectious disease specialists tell us that COVID-19 will be here for a while, swirling around the globe until it is stopped by a vaccine, and that it is astronomically unlikely that we will develop and distribute that vaccine this year. In fact, we have never before developed a successful vaccine against any coronavirus. Well. That’s all I really need to know. 

Just leaving shows on the books, going with wait-and-see until the last minute is not in the best interest of ticket buyers, promoters, crew and even businesses near venues. It just adds to our endless list of uncertainties. What is needed in a time of such uncertainty, when a historic pandemic is killing people, erasing jobs, and disrupting life as we know it, is to shed as much of that uncertainty as possible, and to take stock of that which is certain. 

Health and safety come first. That is certain. The well-being of my audiences – from 12-year olds whose parents cover their ears when I forget not to cuss, to couples their grandparent’s age singing three-part harmonies – is too dear to me to be put at risk. Not to mention those whose paths we might cross once the show lets out. Until this virus is in the rear view - and again we’re told this will not be in 2020 - we cannot be certain large gatherings won’t re-ignite the spread just as it’s been contained. I’m sure that some cities, states and venues might technically allow our concerts much sooner than others. But remember that the USA is a massive country. One city may experience what seems like complete recovery just as another in a neighboring state is seeing an uptick in cases. It would be irresponsible to incentivize music fans to travel from where there was a cancelled show in an infected area, to attend a show in an infection-free area. 

Our federal government leaders have decided to let the states and cities fend for themselves, making decisions like these all more stressful. It’s a little like when traffic lights are out during a storm. (Nobody ever complained of the government coming between them and a car accident, did they?) Absent clear direction, we’re all left to rely on what the car ahead of us did, hoping that nobody gets run over in the process. Honestly, absent federal guidance, I took my cue from Taylor Swift who also cancelled all her touring for 2020. A decision like that takes guts, so thank you President Swift. And I’m grateful to have a booking agent, manager, and crew with broad shoulders.

Of course, this is a huge disappointment to me personally. I’ve never gone a whole year in my two decades plus as a performer without seeing you all from the stage regularly. 

Here’s what I say. Let’s get through this and look forward to a time when we can begin the next phase of that long road to recovery. When we can party like it’s 2021 and not like it’s 1918. When we can sing those three-part harmonies with healthy lungs. That is when live music will be able to step in and do its part to heal and inspire. Until then, please stay safe, and remember, no matter how bad it gets, the most comforting certainty is that all this too shall pass. 

Benu

F Me In The Brain

Yup.  RATM as well. 

whitepants

PSUS2H said:

kst said:

An Orange County (CA) beach this weekend was pretty crowded. I believe that is the same state and county as Dana Point. There’s hope for Ohana yet.  Still 5 months away.  

yeah, Doheny State beach is in Dana Point, CA.  Which is in Orange County.  

Exactly, this is what I'm thinking too. It's still 5 long months out, and the OC does things the OC way, that's the only thing we got going for us for this show to go on. If this was in LA County, I doubt it would go on. But with masks and temperature checks, we can do this!

RatherStarved

It’s not the be all / end all, but some encouraging news today on one of the trial drugs maybe having some benefit.  

I continue to hope that final decisions on these festivals wait a few more weeks just in case one or more of these drugs prove to really make a difference.

Obviously if there remains a material public health risk the show cannot proceed.  But it would be a shame to cancel now, and then let’s say in June it is discovered there’s a drug that really works against this virus.

F Me In The Brain

OC does things the Gavin Way.
He makes the rules now

pearljammr78

F Me In The Brain said:

OC does things the Gavin Way.
He makes the rules now

Gavin is the man. Cuomo/Newsom 2020. 

That being said, any drug or vaccine they come up with would still need trials. I’m not taking something now that might give me rotting ass cancer in 3 years. Not to mention the mass production and distribution. We are a long way out from concerts. I’ve accepted no more live music this year. I got to see Author and Punisher open for Tool. I got to see Hepa-Titus and The Cunts open up for the Melvins at a small club. If those are the only two shows I see this year I still had a kick ass year. At least we have kick ass new Pearl Jam music and Fiona Apple’s masterpiece to soothe the ears right now. 

Luckytwn1

kst said:

It’s not the be all / end all, but some encouraging news today on one of the trial drugs maybe having some benefit.  

I continue to hope that final decisions on these festivals wait a few more weeks just in case one or more of these drugs prove to really make a difference.

Obviously if there remains a material public health risk the show cannot proceed.  But it would be a shame to cancel now, and then let’s say in June it is discovered there’s a drug that really works against this virus.

You’re misreading the news. Fauci was clear that the success of remdesivir has no impact at all on relaxing social distancing. It is great news that there is a treatment showing promise for people who are hospitalized. That has nothing to do with concerts returning. 

And it’s now breaking tonight that Newsom will announce he is stepping in on the beach issue and he will order all CA beaches closed tomorrow. 

aurelgugus

Seeing the situation from Europe, I was in the same kind of denial mid-March/early-April but PJ will not put fans at risk and they will likely cancel/postpone all dates to 2021.

F Me In The Brain

Yep, as predicted, OC does things the OC way, and Newsom does things the Newsom way - and overrides OC.
90,000 morons at Newport Beach last weekend?
This was so predictable.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/california-newsom-close-beaches-parks/index.html

RatherStarved

Luckytwn1 said:

kst said:

It’s not the be all / end all, but some encouraging news today on one of the trial drugs maybe having some benefit.  

I continue to hope that final decisions on these festivals wait a few more weeks just in case one or more of these drugs prove to really make a difference.

Obviously if there remains a material public health risk the show cannot proceed.  But it would be a shame to cancel now, and then let’s say in June it is discovered there’s a drug that really works against this virus.

You’re misreading the news. Fauci was clear that the success of remdesivir has no impact at all on relaxing social distancing. It is great news that there is a treatment showing promise for people who are hospitalized. That has nothing to do with concerts returning. 

And it’s now breaking tonight that Newsom will announce he is stepping in on the beach issue and he will order all CA beaches closed tomorrow. 

You’re misreading what I said.  

RatherStarved

aurelgugus said:

Seeing the situation from Europe, I was in the same kind of denial mid-March/early-April but PJ will not put fans at risk and they will likely cancel/postpone all dates to 2021.

Europe tour was postponed 2.5 months before it was to start and a factor had to be all the international travel it would have required.  All I’m saying is wait until June/July to decide on these fall festivals in case something improves.  No need to call it before that.  That’s it, that’s all.

aurelgugus

kst said:

aurelgugus said:

Seeing the situation from Europe, I was in the same kind of denial mid-March/early-April but PJ will not put fans at risk and they will likely cancel/postpone all dates to 2021.

Europe tour was postponed 2.5 months before it was to start and a factor had to be all the international travel it would have required.  All I’m saying is wait until June/July to decide on these fall festivals in case something improves.  No need to call it before that.  That’s it, that’s all.

Metallica has already cancelled festivals booked for September but I understand that every state can have its own policy. 

SVRDhand13

F Me In The Brain said:

Yup.  RATM as well. 

They cancelled the entire year? I dont see anything about that

pearljammr78

kst said:

aurelgugus said:

Seeing the situation from Europe, I was in the same kind of denial mid-March/early-April but PJ will not put fans at risk and they will likely cancel/postpone all dates to 2021.

Europe tour was postponed 2.5 months before it was to start and a factor had to be all the international travel it would have required.  All I’m saying is wait until June/July to decide on these fall festivals in case something improves.  No need to call it before that.  That’s it, that’s all.

I live 5 hours from Dana Point. It’s not going to happen. Refund those who want refunds and carry over tickets to those who want to hold on. California will not have events this year. Except the reality or your just going to be disappointed. A lot more people than Live Nation or Ticketmaster could use that money right now and to hold cash hostage is complete bullshit. The writing is on the wall. 

F Me In The Brain

SVRDhand13 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Yup.  RATM as well. 

They cancelled the entire year? I dont see anything about that

No, but they should.
Especially since they ass shafted many of us who paid extra for their shitty ticket system for night one at MSG when that was the only show it one of two.
Next thing you know they add twelve shows (hyperbole, I know) and now I could buy a ticket way better than the one I bought for half price
Screw them for their ticket pricing system and adding more shows after the fact.
They are the machine.

Cancel - there is no chance they play at MSG in August.

RatherStarved

I’m not saying it impacts the odds of Ohana (it doesn’t) but it’s interesting that Dana Point is taking Newsom to court on the beach issue.  I don’t have a horse in this particular race so will keep my view of who is right to myself.

gotthebottle

THERE WILL BE NO OHANA THIS YEAR....OC beaches can take the gov to court all they want but that's just tough. NO CONCERTS, NO SPORTS IN PERSON, NO THEATER this year. Just deal with it, you people who are holding on to hope....

RatherStarved

There’s no need to yell.  People are entitled to hope for whatever they want to hope for, until such time as the show is officially postponed or cancelled.  And then, people can hope for whatever new thing they want to.  That’s the beauty of hope.  

The_Giant_Midget

the amount of negative people in this thread is alarming. 

pearljammr78

The_Giant_Midget said:

the amount of negative people in this thread is alarming. 

Please clarify what you mean by negative. If you mean people looking at a horrible situation and thinking realistically, I wouldn’t call them negative. I would say these people including myself have been watching what’s going on and see the writing on the wall. Could things change? Yes, in either direction. But at the current way California is going, it is not a possibility. Nor is it a possibility that even is events do resume, the same number of people will be able to attend due to social distancing polices or economic circumstances. 

ComeToTX

The first band to cancel will not be the first band to resume playing large shows.  They will obviously not be playing any shows this year and shouldn't.