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  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    edited May 1
    If there’s anyone who is still somehow under some illusion that Ohana is going to happen, The Eagles shows at the Forum, which were scheduled for spring and then moved to late September, have been now rescheduled for October, 2021. Announced this afternoon by Live Nation. 

    Don’t know about every state but there will be no concerts with large crowds in 2020 in California. 
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  • The_Giant_MidgetThe_Giant_Midget Posts: 418
    the amount of negative people in this thread is alarming. 
    Please clarify what you mean by negative. If you mean people looking at a horrible situation and thinking realistically, I wouldn’t call them negative. I would say these people including myself have been watching what’s going on and see the writing on the wall. Could things change? Yes, in either direction. But at the current way California is going, it is not a possibility. Nor is it a possibility that even is events do resume, the same number of people will be able to attend due to social distancing polices or economic circumstances. 
    i just get the weird sense from some on here that they'd rather be in lockdown for ages and live this weird sheltered life than think positively and be optimistic about the future. i think we all grasp the severity and know that Ohana wont happen but you're lying if you don’t see how all these future concert threads are 95% doomsday commenters. 
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  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    edited May 1
    the amount of negative people in this thread is alarming. 
    Please clarify what you mean by negative. If you mean people looking at a horrible situation and thinking realistically, I wouldn’t call them negative. I would say these people including myself have been watching what’s going on and see the writing on the wall. Could things change? Yes, in either direction. But at the current way California is going, it is not a possibility. Nor is it a possibility that even is events do resume, the same number of people will be able to attend due to social distancing polices or economic circumstances. 
    i just get the weird sense from some on here that they'd rather be in lockdown for ages and live this weird sheltered life than think positively and be optimistic about the future. i think we all grasp the severity and know that Ohana wont happen but you're lying if you don’t see how all these future concert threads are 95% doomsday commenters. 
    Uh yeah, that’s a lot of nonsense in this post right here. But of course, only in the times of Trump could discussion of factual and sensible information be considered doomsday. I see shows all over the world. In December, I was in Singapore and Tokyo for U2. I have zero hesitation at saying I will return to doing stuff like that at the very first possible moment where it is appropriate and safe. Unfortunately, that’s not going to be in September of this year. 
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    This whole thread is full of nonsense right now, like @Luckytwn1 says....I too have traveled the world and will again. But living in So Cal makes it abundantly clear...and I'm not yelling, that there will be NO live music shows in large venues in So Cal this year. So take your 'hope" and enjoy it. I choose to be realistic. And "95% doomsday commenters"? That's just ridiculous
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    This whole thread is full of nonsense right now, like @Luckytwn1 says....I too have traveled the world and will again. But living in So Cal makes it abundantly clear...and I'm not yelling, that there will be NO live music shows in large venues in So Cal this year. So take your 'hope" and enjoy it. I choose to be realistic. And "95% doomsday commenters"? That's just ridiculous
  • matt84matt84 Posts: 71
    edited May 4
    https://www.nme.com/news/music/ireland-phase-music-festivals-august-lockdown-exit-plan-2659115

    Ireland are hoping the Electric Picnic Festival can go ahead early September (headlined by Rage Against the Machine).
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  • kstkst Posts: 696
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

    No ,none of those things would work and that's why there will be NO festivals in California this year. And even if there is a vaccine it still needs testing...nothing going to be going on in this state this year. I can't imagine PJ says, "Hey, let's take a chance and go to Ohana"...
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

    No ,none of those things would work and that's why there will be NO festivals in California this year. And ev
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.

    Not only does that not work from a virus perspective, it also doesn't work on an economic level.

    "Sell a small fraction of the tickets they'd otherwise sell?" Yeah, good luck to promoters trying to hold an event like Ohana where they can only sell a small fraction of tickets. Did you even think that out before you wrote it? The bottom line is the economics of the concert industry do not allow for social distancing concerts by vastly reducing crowd size. Well, unless the ticket prices are raised by a commensurate amount. 
  • kstkst Posts: 696
    The Oxford vaccine is being tested right now.  That’s why they aren’t saying anything until June.  

    Yes, I am aware of how economics work.  

    Thanks 

  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 7,198
    kst said:
    I wonder what a socially distanced festival looks like.  Do they put chairs separated by each other by 6 feet in all directions and everyone gets an assigned seat and isn’t allowed to walk around or crowd the stage? And they sell a small fraction of the tickets they’d otherwise sell? And a pre assigned time to buy food and use the facilities? And a mask to wear except when eating? Doesn’t seem very festive.

    The doctor running the UK Oxford vaccine trial said they should know by this June if that works. That will be most interesting news to follow.


    Ya especially for a Rage concert too. Those are mayhem.

     I always enjoy your posts. I know you do your research and look at things with hope but objectively too. Keep up the good work!
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  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    edited May 4
    kst said:
    The Oxford vaccine is being tested right now.  That’s why they aren’t saying anything until June.  

    Yes, I am aware of how economics work.  

    Thanks 

    Of course, that is not exactly what Sir John Bell, the doctor running the Oxford study, said. I watched the interview on Meet The Press. While yes, they could have a sense of efficacy by June, it's not like hundreds of millions of doses will suddenly materialize. They will have a good idea if they are on the right path by that time but there would still be a trip further down the road before the vaccine is ready for widespread distribution. Certainly, great news but again, not anything that has one iota of impact on Ohana being held in September.
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  • kstkst Posts: 696
    I agree a lot would have to fall into place.

    I am done posting on this thread.

    See you in 2021.
  • whitepantswhitepants Posts: 638
    I was one of the sensible hopefuls but I'm coming to the sad terms that this entire year, and probably the first several months of 2021, concerts are fucked by Covid-19. Could a miracle happen before Ohana is officially canceled? Yeah, miracles do happen. But, I await word for Ohana to be canceled. I know the boys are just as pissed and concerned as we all are.

    There is a segment of the population that gets off on their doomsday porn thoughts and speculations, and I'm tired of them.

    Let's wait and see what happens next.
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 370
    Civil disobedience works.  California is starting to open up this week.  Hope is there.  Just a few more weeks of positive trends and strong support for a free world and it might get a green light.
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    Civil disobedience works.  California is starting to open up this week.  Hope is there.  Just a few more weeks of positive trends and strong support for a free world and it might get a green light.
    California is opening up because the response here has been working and Newsom is doing a great job. There is no correlation between allowing curb side pickup at retailers and holding an event with 15,000 people. This is not a secret in the concert industry. It is widely accepted there will be no events in 2020. Here’s MGM CEO Bill Hornbuckle this week on the return of events in Vegas. This is someone responsible for booking thousands of events a year. 

    Hornbuckle said big concerts, sporting events and professional fights are likely out of the question in the near term. “I think the idea that we're going to get 15,000 people in T-Mobile (Arena) for a concert anytime this year is probably a stretch,'' he said
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 271
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8541779/journey-2020-tour-canceled

    Journey/Pretenders Tour cancelled for 2020

    ”The global COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting restrictions regarding large gatherings regretfully make it impossible for Journey to tour this year. After carefully reviewing all options, the decision has been made to cancel the entire tour to make it possible for the band’s legion of hardworking fans to immediately obtain access to refund options during these unforeseen and extremely challenging times.”
  • weremin23weremin23 Posts: 258
    When do we think Ohana will officially get cancelled? There’s no shot of this happening so the idea of them sitting on people’s money isn’t cool.
  • demetriosdemetrios canadaPosts: 61,223
    weremin23 said:
    When do we think Ohana will officially get cancelled? There’s no shot of this happening so the idea of them sitting on people’s money isn’t cool.

    Ohana isn't till September 25th-27th so I'm guessing they will wait it out till the first week of September. They should make it right & cancel / refund this year's 2020 event soon, seeing that every other festival event has been cancelling all 2020 gatherings.
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 9,536
    Civil disobedience works.  California is starting to open up this week.  Hope is there.  Just a few more weeks of positive trends and strong support for a free world and it might get a green light.
    This made me laugh. 
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    Civil disobedience works.  California is starting to open up this week.  Hope is there.  Just a few more weeks of positive trends and strong support for a free world and it might get a green light.
    "Civil disobedience".... will get the infection rate to rise again and the death rate too.... that's not what CD is about. You act like they shut us down for no reason?  Pandemic is a reason to STFU and do what's necessary or else the progress will be lost. 
  • whitepantswhitepants Posts: 638
    Coachella's rescheduled date is the week after Ohana, So, I wonder if they are shaking in their boots on the inevitable?

    I think some hope is still being held on to since there's no cancellation yet. So, we'll see.
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  • whitepantswhitepants Posts: 638
    FYI - LA Times:

    May. 05, 2020

    California allows more Orange County beaches to reopen

    Dana Point, Huntington Beach and Seal Beach can reopen their coastlines this week with certain limitations, state officials say.

    The plan comes less than a week after Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered all Orange County beaches closed to stem the spread of the coronavirus, and includes a range of measures to avoid overcrowding and allow safe physical distancing.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,189
    the beach being open and having a festival are nowhere close to the same thing.  at a festival there is a confined space and only so many options to enter and exit or wait for the bathroom or concessions.  festival aren't happening this year.  especially in CA.

    why haven't they canceled it yet?  because they want to hang onto your money as long as possible?  alanis morisette still hasn't canceled and her tour starts in a month.  does anyone think that's actually going to go ahead?  of course not.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    FYI - LA Times:

    May. 05, 2020

    California allows more Orange County beaches to reopen

    Dana Point, Huntington Beach and Seal Beach can reopen their coastlines this week with certain limitations, state officials say.

    The plan comes less than a week after Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered all Orange County beaches closed to stem the spread of the coronavirus, and includes a range of measures to avoid overcrowding and allow safe physical distancing.
    That doesn't mean a damn thing about festivals. 
    You must not live in California....
    This virus isn't gone ..and the more people force themselves into situations with the masses the more cases will go up. This is basic epidemiology. We know the fake-pres doesn't care if we all die but our Governor does...thank goodness. 
    So NO festivals, NO concerts this year....
  • whitepantswhitepants Posts: 638
    Dude relax, I live in Pasadena!

    JC!
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  • pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,386
    Dude relax, I live in Pasadena!

    JC!
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  • pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,386
    Has anyone contacted Ohana Fest or any other show about refunds just because you don’t wanna go anymore because of the rules of attendance have changed. I’m asking before I start my inquiries with emails tomorrow. Thanks
    Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San DiegoPosts: 1,224
    They're still technically selling tickets so I'm sure you'll get no where until officially postponed/ canceled
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