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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/health/oleandrin-coronavirus-fda-mypillow/index.html
    I’m glad I work in a hospital during this time I get better information from professionals I can trust! 

    Anyone who takes medical advice from the My Pillow nut job deserves what they get.
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  • Meltdown99
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  • Spunkie
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    How will covid-19 impact globalization? Here is a link from academic perspectives courtesy my M.Ed. Adult Learning and Global Change program.

    https://youtu.be/jyYAM158PcA
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  • Lerxst1992
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    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I was tested in May.  At that time, I went on my health insurance company's website, answered a few questions about symptoms, etc., scheduled an appointment for a drive-up test that afternoon, got tested, and had the (negative) results the next day.

    I'm thinking about getting tested again...I have the same symptoms I've had since May, so I'm likely OK (making me a less-than-top-priority, I suppose) and I have to make a video appointment with my Doc, who will decide whether I should get tested. "Due to a national shortage of testing supplies."

    I'm not on top of things enough to know much about it...I believe the quote is true...but I wonder about why.  Is this because people are getting tested and we're using supplies at a faster rate than they can be produced? Or is there something more nefarious at hand to create the shortage?

    It's going to weed some people out (and I don't just mean any unnecessary test, but people that don't want to jump through the hoops)...which may or may not be the goal.
    Didn’t experience this in NYC. My wife and I got tested with no appointment or doctors approval. My employees got tested with no symptoms, just based on that they might have been exposed. This was in the past 2 weeks. 
    NY is very different from many states. They are testing about 100,000 per day. Overall testing in the US is trending down. Glad to hear you are doing better. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    edited September 2020
    tish said:



    BC Government data, Sept 3
    Interesting article from conservative David Frum on the differences crossing into Canada and USA, 

    www.theatlantic.com

    I Crossed Back Into a State of Denial

    3 - 4 minutes


    On the Fourth of July, I drove across the border from the United States into Canada. Two months later, I drove the other way. Both times, I crossed at the same point: just east of Lake Ontario, amid the Thousand Islands of the St. Lawrence River. Both times, I was driving a rented U-Haul, carrying household effects I was swapping between city and vacation house. And there the similarities stopped.


    When I entered Canada, the single official I encountered wore a high-quality face mask. She asked me to lower my mask briefly so she could inspect my face, then probed with three questions: By what right did I enter Canada? (I was born there.) What was in the truck? (Personal effects.) And what was my plan for quarantine and self-isolation in Canada?

    That last topic occupied probably six or seven minutes. She asked where I would stay, who else would be there, how I would get groceries and other necessities. She took my email address and phone number. The entire process—including the wait time for the one vehicle ahead of me when I halted—occupied approximately 15 minutes. Over the following two weeks, I would receive daily messages by text or robocall to confirm that I was complying with quarantine rules. Once, I received an in-person call. I don’t know that there was really any follow-up beyond these contacts, but they reminded me that I had given a promise and that somebody cared whether I honored that promise.


    On the return trip, I was halted at a checkpoint a couple of hundred yards before the inspector booth. I showed my U.S. passport, answered a question about residence, and rolled forward. None of the three officers at the checkpoint wore a mask.

    The U.S. station was much larger and busier than the Canadian station, crowded with trucks, and much more heavily staffed. More than one lane was open, and it took me a minute to ascertain the correct one. The officer at the inspection booth also did not wear a mask. He told me to remove my mask and keep it off for as long as we talked. He asked as many questions as his Canadian counterpart, but his focus was very different. We talked in detail about the contents of the truck. Was I carrying marijuana? Cash? Weapons? He did not ask a single question about COVID-19 or quarantine. He then waved me forward to a secondary inspection, an electronic screening of the truck. A police car, its driver unmasked, led me to the station. Two officers there, again unmasked, explained how to drive my truck past an X-ray machine. Afterward, an eighth officer, unmasked like the others, asked me to step out of the cabin so he could look around. Then I was sent on my way. Total time elapsed: 50 minutes.

    All the U.S. officers were professional and courteous, and a couple went out of their way to be pleasant. One apologized for a delay at the secondary screening; something had gone wrong with the machine for a few minutes. But nobody seemed to reckon with the whole reason that the border had been closed in the first place. Here I was, a potential disease carrier crossing a border, and nobody seemed interested or concerned enough to do anything about it. And none of them was taking the elementary precaution of mask wearing to protect themselves and one another.

    It was an apt introduction to the transition between the United States and Canada. On one side of the border, almost everybody took the virus seriously—and few people had it. On the other, the reverse.

    The good news is that in the U.S., the rate of new infections has declined somewhat from its early summer peak. Vaccines do seem to be on their way—not as fast as President Donald Trump insists, but perhaps sometime in the first part of 2021.

    Until that day, however, it’s pretty obvious that the real policy of the United States is to claim the rewards of successful virus management—a return to schools and universities, reopened bars and restaurants, resumption of sports—without first doing the work of successfully managing the virus.

    On my first day home, September 3, my city of Washington, D.C.—population 705,000—reported 58 new COVID-19 cases. That same day, the province of Ontario, which I had just left—population 14.57 million—reported 132 new positive tests.*

    Despite this depressing comparison, the District of Columbia is actually doing a better job fighting the coronavirus than most of the United States is. The seven-day average here in D.C. is less than one-third of what it was at the peak in early May. For the U.S. as a whole, the seven-day average in early September is fully two-thirds of what it was at the peak in mid-July.  


    It did not have to be this way. But as Trump aptly said of himself and his policy, “It is what it is.” He accepted more disease in hopes of stimulating a stronger economy and winning reelection. He’s waiting now for the return on that bet. As so often in his reckless career, his speculation seems to be that if the bet wins, he pockets the proceeds. And if the bet fails? The losses fall on others.

    As a businessman, he played with other people’s money. As a politician, the stakes have been other people’s lives. In both his careers, his gambles have usually failed.  

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    tish said:



    BC Government data, Sept 3
    Interesting article from conservative David Frum on the differences crossing into Canada and USA, 

    www.theatlantic.com

    I Crossed Back Into a State of Denial

    3 - 4 minutes


    On the Fourth of July, I drove across the border from the United States into Canada. Two months later, I drove the other way. Both times, I crossed at the same point: just east of Lake Ontario, amid the Thousand Islands of the St. Lawrence River. Both times, I was driving a rented U-Haul, carrying household effects I was swapping between city and vacation house. And there the similarities stopped.


    When I entered Canada, the single official I encountered wore a high-quality face mask. She asked me to lower my mask briefly so she could inspect my face, then probed with three questions: By what right did I enter Canada? (I was born there.) What was in the truck? (Personal effects.) And what was my plan for quarantine and self-isolation in Canada?

    That last topic occupied probably six or seven minutes. She asked where I would stay, who else would be there, how I would get groceries and other necessities. She took my email address and phone number. The entire process—including the wait time for the one vehicle ahead of me when I halted—occupied approximately 15 minutes. Over the following two weeks, I would receive daily messages by text or robocall to confirm that I was complying with quarantine rules. Once, I received an in-person call. I don’t know that there was really any follow-up beyond these contacts, but they reminded me that I had given a promise and that somebody cared whether I honored that promise.


    On the return trip, I was halted at a checkpoint a couple of hundred yards before the inspector booth. I showed my U.S. passport, answered a question about residence, and rolled forward. None of the three officers at the checkpoint wore a mask.

    The U.S. station was much larger and busier than the Canadian station, crowded with trucks, and much more heavily staffed. More than one lane was open, and it took me a minute to ascertain the correct one. The officer at the inspection booth also did not wear a mask. He told me to remove my mask and keep it off for as long as we talked. He asked as many questions as his Canadian counterpart, but his focus was very different. We talked in detail about the contents of the truck. Was I carrying marijuana? Cash? Weapons? He did not ask a single question about COVID-19 or quarantine. He then waved me forward to a secondary inspection, an electronic screening of the truck. A police car, its driver unmasked, led me to the station. Two officers there, again unmasked, explained how to drive my truck past an X-ray machine. Afterward, an eighth officer, unmasked like the others, asked me to step out of the cabin so he could look around. Then I was sent on my way. Total time elapsed: 50 minutes.

    All the U.S. officers were professional and courteous, and a couple went out of their way to be pleasant. One apologized for a delay at the secondary screening; something had gone wrong with the machine for a few minutes. But nobody seemed to reckon with the whole reason that the border had been closed in the first place. Here I was, a potential disease carrier crossing a border, and nobody seemed interested or concerned enough to do anything about it. And none of them was taking the elementary precaution of mask wearing to protect themselves and one another.

    It was an apt introduction to the transition between the United States and Canada. On one side of the border, almost everybody took the virus seriously—and few people had it. On the other, the reverse.

    The good news is that in the U.S., the rate of new infections has declined somewhat from its early summer peak. Vaccines do seem to be on their way—not as fast as President Donald Trump insists, but perhaps sometime in the first part of 2021.

    Until that day, however, it’s pretty obvious that the real policy of the United States is to claim the rewards of successful virus management—a return to schools and universities, reopened bars and restaurants, resumption of sports—without first doing the work of successfully managing the virus.

    On my first day home, September 3, my city of Washington, D.C.—population 705,000—reported 58 new COVID-19 cases. That same day, the province of Ontario, which I had just left—population 14.57 million—reported 132 new positive tests.*

    Despite this depressing comparison, the District of Columbia is actually doing a better job fighting the coronavirus than most of the United States is. The seven-day average here in D.C. is less than one-third of what it was at the peak in early May. For the U.S. as a whole, the seven-day average in early September is fully two-thirds of what it was at the peak in mid-July.  


    It did not have to be this way. But as Trump aptly said of himself and his policy, “It is what it is.” He accepted more disease in hopes of stimulating a stronger economy and winning reelection. He’s waiting now for the return on that bet. As so often in his reckless career, his speculation seems to be that if the bet wins, he pockets the proceeds. And if the bet fails? The losses fall on others.

    As a businessman, he played with other people’s money. As a politician, the stakes have been other people’s lives. In both his careers, his gambles have usually failed.  


    That right there is a perfect picture into why the USA is in the downward perils we find ourselves in battling this CV19.

    Thank you for posting I'll try and post this on the forum for RUSH. Many there are pro Trumpers but last I checked the more verbal members have gone silent.

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  • Lerxst1992
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    ^ I would not expect too many Biden supporters on TRF ;-)
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  • Poncier
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I was tested in May.  At that time, I went on my health insurance company's website, answered a few questions about symptoms, etc., scheduled an appointment for a drive-up test that afternoon, got tested, and had the (negative) results the next day.

    I'm thinking about getting tested again...I have the same symptoms I've had since May, so I'm likely OK (making me a less-than-top-priority, I suppose) and I have to make a video appointment with my Doc, who will decide whether I should get tested. "Due to a national shortage of testing supplies."

    I'm not on top of things enough to know much about it...I believe the quote is true...but I wonder about why.  Is this because people are getting tested and we're using supplies at a faster rate than they can be produced? Or is there something more nefarious at hand to create the shortage?

    It's going to weed some people out (and I don't just mean any unnecessary test, but people that don't want to jump through the hoops)...which may or may not be the goal.
    Didn’t experience this in NYC. My wife and I got tested with no appointment or doctors approval. My employees got tested with no symptoms, just based on that they might have been exposed. This was in the past 2 weeks. 
    Are you feeling like you and the lady made it through Covid ok @nicknyr15 ?  Or still feeling like you aren’t quite out of the woods?  At any rate I’m hoping the best for you guys.
    Thank you so much for those kind words. I’m feeling a lot better. Feel a little weak and still have no sense of taste or smell. My wife still has a very slight fever ,about 100.1, and slight tightness in chest. But it feels like we’re almost through. 
    holy crap i hope you all get better soon!!

    i am thinking about getting tested again. i have been severely fatigued off and on the last 3 weeks but have had no other symptoms. i get my temp screened 3-4 days per week because i have to to get in to hospitals and surgery centers for work. i have been eating bad and not exercising much, so i am thinking that could be what is causing my fatigue. i had a known covid exposure 5 or 6 weeks ago and tested negative but never had any fatigue until the last few weeks.
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  • nicknyr15
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    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I was tested in May.  At that time, I went on my health insurance company's website, answered a few questions about symptoms, etc., scheduled an appointment for a drive-up test that afternoon, got tested, and had the (negative) results the next day.

    I'm thinking about getting tested again...I have the same symptoms I've had since May, so I'm likely OK (making me a less-than-top-priority, I suppose) and I have to make a video appointment with my Doc, who will decide whether I should get tested. "Due to a national shortage of testing supplies."

    I'm not on top of things enough to know much about it...I believe the quote is true...but I wonder about why.  Is this because people are getting tested and we're using supplies at a faster rate than they can be produced? Or is there something more nefarious at hand to create the shortage?

    It's going to weed some people out (and I don't just mean any unnecessary test, but people that don't want to jump through the hoops)...which may or may not be the goal.
    Didn’t experience this in NYC. My wife and I got tested with no appointment or doctors approval. My employees got tested with no symptoms, just based on that they might have been exposed. This was in the past 2 weeks. 
    Are you feeling like you and the lady made it through Covid ok @nicknyr15 ?  Or still feeling like you aren’t quite out of the woods?  At any rate I’m hoping the best for you guys.
    Thank you so much for those kind words. I’m feeling a lot better. Feel a little weak and still have no sense of taste or smell. My wife still has a very slight fever ,about 100.1, and slight tightness in chest. But it feels like we’re almost through. 
    holy crap i hope you all get better soon!!

    i am thinking about getting tested again. i have been severely fatigued off and on the last 3 weeks but have had no other symptoms. i get my temp screened 3-4 days per week because i have to to get in to hospitals and surgery centers for work. i have been eating bad and not exercising much, so i am thinking that could be what is causing my fatigue. i had a known covid exposure 5 or 6 weeks ago and tested negative but never had any fatigue until the last few weeks.
    Thanks man! Hits everyone different but extreme is definitely up there with common symptoms. Hope you feel better 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I was tested in May.  At that time, I went on my health insurance company's website, answered a few questions about symptoms, etc., scheduled an appointment for a drive-up test that afternoon, got tested, and had the (negative) results the next day.

    I'm thinking about getting tested again...I have the same symptoms I've had since May, so I'm likely OK (making me a less-than-top-priority, I suppose) and I have to make a video appointment with my Doc, who will decide whether I should get tested. "Due to a national shortage of testing supplies."

    I'm not on top of things enough to know much about it...I believe the quote is true...but I wonder about why.  Is this because people are getting tested and we're using supplies at a faster rate than they can be produced? Or is there something more nefarious at hand to create the shortage?

    It's going to weed some people out (and I don't just mean any unnecessary test, but people that don't want to jump through the hoops)...which may or may not be the goal.
    Didn’t experience this in NYC. My wife and I got tested with no appointment or doctors approval. My employees got tested with no symptoms, just based on that they might have been exposed. This was in the past 2 weeks. 
    Are you feeling like you and the lady made it through Covid ok @nicknyr15 ?  Or still feeling like you aren’t quite out of the woods?  At any rate I’m hoping the best for you guys.
    Thank you so much for those kind words. I’m feeling a lot better. Feel a little weak and still have no sense of taste or smell. My wife still has a very slight fever ,about 100.1, and slight tightness in chest. But it feels like we’re almost through. 
    holy crap i hope you all get better soon!!

    i am thinking about getting tested again. i have been severely fatigued off and on the last 3 weeks but have had no other symptoms. i get my temp screened 3-4 days per week because i have to to get in to hospitals and surgery centers for work. i have been eating bad and not exercising much, so i am thinking that could be what is causing my fatigue. i had a known covid exposure 5 or 6 weeks ago and tested negative but never had any fatigue until the last few weeks.
    Thanks man! Hits everyone different but extreme is definitely up there with common symptoms. Hope you feel better 
    thanks man. i feel good, other than the constant urge/need for caffeine, which is really out of character for me. i am going to start exercising again this week and see if that helps. 
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  • “It’s going to go away like things go away.” And yet, Team Trump Treason knew better. Suckers.

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  • “It’s going to go away like things go away.” And yet, Team Trump Treason knew better. Suckers.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html
    Truly an evil bastard that should be in jail or strapped on the next rocket to blast off earth! By estimate over 120,000 Americans could of been saved POS..

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  • And South Dakota's gubner calls it "fiction." When did the US become Jonestown? Or should I say, "Team Trump Treason Town?"
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  • Lerxst1992
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    JB16057 said:

    The study’s point was you can’t believe the absurd numbers the govt is telling you linked to this rally. We know it’s not in the hundreds. That’s absurd. We know the curve in SD went way up right after the rally. We know a death in Minnesota was linked specifically to the rally. We know other nearby states had upward curves after the rally.

    Conservatives have been telling us for six months covid doesn’t affect kids. Now, because it’s convenient, Reason explains away these upward curves do to school reopening. Nice.
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