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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.
    Def get what you mean! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,944
    Does no one else have a force field? Weird....
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    When we visited, I used to play in this park when I was a child. This is sad...we will not forget. 



    Falling down,...not staying down
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,468
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.
    I was wondering why it hurt when that bus hit me. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    edited September 2020
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/coronavirus-vaccine-trump/2020/09/01/b44b42be-e965-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html?outputType=amp
    Ok since we’ve done such a great job on C19 why not go at it alone!
    Post edited by josevolution on
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,944
    Just to confuse a lot of people, I wish Pete Twonshend and Roger Daltrey would fund a vaccine. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    mace1229 said:
    Just to confuse a lot of people, I wish Pete Twonshend and Roger Daltrey would fund a vaccine. 
    Who?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,944
    exactly
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
    You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You’re welcome!
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited September 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.
    I was wondering why it hurt when that bus hit me. 
    You’re not immune to buses I guess
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    edited September 2020
    Kat said:
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
    Devo predicted De-evolution over 40 years ago.......sadly, it is now coming true!
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.
    I think 90% is a very good estimate.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
    You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 
    interesting. i thought we did actually know people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic were in face contagious. that would be great news if that what you are saying is/comes to be true. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
    You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 
    i guess that also helps me understand why the messaging is so hard on "stay home if you're sick" and not if you've traveled (at least not in winnipeg; that changed a while back). 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
    You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 
    interesting. i thought we did actually know people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic were in face contagious. that would be great news if that what you are saying is/comes to be true. 
    That’s not what I’m saying. 

    We don’t know if people with asymptomatic reinfection can infect others. We do know that people with an asymptomatic initial infection can. They are different situations. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,839
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
    You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 
    interesting. i thought we did actually know people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic were in face contagious. that would be great news if that what you are saying is/comes to be true. 
    That’s not what I’m saying. 

    We don’t know if people with asymptomatic reinfection can infect others. We do know that people with an asymptomatic initial infection can. They are different situations. 
    gotcha. 
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