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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    OnWis97 said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    Hopefully that holds true.  That said, I'm still thinking a dive inter herd immunity would be ill-advised.

    I’m not sure what you mean. As a policy decision, yes, it leaves something to be desired, but as reality, it’s probably where we’re heading. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    even my truck wears a mask!!!


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  • Poncier
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    mickeyrat said:
    even my truck wears a mask!!!


    Wearing it wrong, should be pulled up over the nose.
    Your truck is a half-masker.  =)
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,737
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    even my truck wears a mask!!!


    Wearing it wrong, should be pulled up over the nose.
    Your truck is a half-masker.  =)

    it was outside with no car beside me.....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,624
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
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    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
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  • Poncier
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    Kat said:
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
    Glad he whipped it.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,624
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
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  • mickeyrat
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

    not sure about that. I think it means your body can efficiently kill the virus once reinfected.
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  • mickeyrat
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     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_(medical)

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
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  • cincybearcat
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

    I'm no expert, and I do not recall the source.  But the last I heard was that while anti-bodies do go away over time...that they are seeing the T cells in previously affected people remain increased...allowing more effective fighting off of any future exposure.  Still lots of time needed to truly understand.  But it was more hopeful than the data I had seen regarding anti-bodies

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Hi! said:

    Oh, but they will, they will.
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  • cincybearcat
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    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hi! said:

    Oh, but they will, they will.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,635
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.

    Yeah.  So now my Q-following Facebook friends are parroting this 9,200 deaths figure that "the CDC quietly admitted to."  As far as I can tell, I could never be a part of that statistic, though. I have asthma and the new Trump CDC way of tallying would blame the asthma I've lived with my whole life, not the Covid I caught last month.
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  • Kat
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    Poncier said:
    Kat said:
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
    Glad he whipped it.
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