The coronavirus

nicknyr15

hedonist said:

I was thinking it'd be quite beneficial if some emphasis were put on healthy (or healthier) living to build up immunity:  eating habits, exercise, hydration, sleep, vitamins and nutrients, etc.

I haven't seen much in the way of this; have any of you?

SPOT ON. Joe Rogan has spoke about it. 

Smellyman

hedonist said:

I was thinking it'd be quite beneficial if some emphasis were put on healthy (or healthier) living to build up immunity:  eating habits, exercise, hydration, sleep, vitamins and nutrients, etc.

I haven't seen much in the way of this; have any of you?

This has been harped on for decades.

People like their smokes and McDonalds

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

hedonist said:

I was thinking it'd be quite beneficial if some emphasis were put on healthy (or healthier) living to build up immunity:  eating habits, exercise, hydration, sleep, vitamins and nutrients, etc.

I haven't seen much in the way of this; have any of you?

Well, we formally had a First Lady who put in a vegetable garden at the White House and encouraged healthy eating and more nutritious school lunch programs but she was widely ridiculed for such subversive thinking.

Pretty sure Monsanto and big Agribusiness made her till it under, because it made a statement that organic was healthier or something.  

hedonist

Yup, Rogan. Well, he reminded me. 

And I will admit I love my smokes, I just wish (yet again) that common sense and simple education about mostly healthy living would be taught, would be lived. At home? School?  By example?

Faxxxxii, it’s a shame Mrs. Obama’s attempts didn’t come to fruition, so to speak. 

Halifax2TheMax

Bentleyspop said:

    This is fearful, hateful, ignorant conspiracy theory bullshit.
 DO NOT WATCH ANY SINCLAIR OWNED TV STATIONS EVER

Local TV stations across the country set to air discredited 'Plandemic' researcher's conspiracy theory about Fauci.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/sinclair-fauci-conspiracy-bolling/index.html

I wish more folks would threaten advertisers with boycotts of products when shit like this happens. It’s the only thing everyone seems to understand $$$$$$$

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/07/25/sinclair-tv-stations-delay-airing-interview-with-plandemic-researcher-amid-backlash/

Bentleyspop

hedonist said:

I was thinking it'd be quite beneficial if some emphasis were put on healthy (or healthier) living to build up immunity:  eating habits, exercise, hydration, sleep, vitamins and nutrients, etc.

I haven't seen much in the way of this; have any of you?

Nope and 60%+ of the American people are happy being morbidly obese 

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos

https://youtu.be/xh9wso6bEAc

In just a few short months Anders Tegnell, architect of Sweden’s unique response to the Covid-19 pandemic, has gone from unknown physician and technocrat to a household celebrity in Sweden and in countries around the world. He is beloved by some (people have even had tattoos made with his face) and intensely disliked by others. Today he is suntanned and relaxed, having just returned from his summer holiday, and wearing an open-necked polo shirt. Here is a summary of what he said:

-      In terms of migrants, travel and urban areas Sweden is more similar to the Netherlands and the UK than Norway or Finland

-      Lockdown may have made a difference, but closing schools and people being out of work is also bad for public health

-      Numbers of new infections arriving at the same time seems to make a big difference, so Stockholm half-term travellers to the Alps a big factor for Stockholm epidemic

-      Eradication is not an option, ‘we have to learn to live with this disease’

-      Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now

-      Additional immunity such as T cells playing a substantial role in slowing spread – ‘what we see right now is a rapid fall in the number of cases, and of course some kind of immunity has to be involved in that as nothing else has changed.’

-      Sweden will be better placed than other countries to limit further waves and outbreaks because of higher immunity

-      IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

-      Judge me in a year, he says.

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/xh9wso6bEAc

In just a few short months Anders Tegnell, architect of Sweden’s unique response to the Covid-19 pandemic, has gone from unknown physician and technocrat to a household celebrity in Sweden and in countries around the world. He is beloved by some (people have even had tattoos made with his face) and intensely disliked by others. Today he is suntanned and relaxed, having just returned from his summer holiday, and wearing an open-necked polo shirt. Here is a summary of what he said:

-      In terms of migrants, travel and urban areas Sweden is more similar to the Netherlands and the UK than Norway or Finland

-      Lockdown may have made a difference, but closing schools and people being out of work is also bad for public health

-      Numbers of new infections arriving at the same time seems to make a big difference, so Stockholm half-term travellers to the Alps a big factor for Stockholm epidemic

-      Eradication is not an option, ‘we have to learn to live with this disease’

-      Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now

-      Additional immunity such as T cells playing a substantial role in slowing spread – ‘what we see right now is a rapid fall in the number of cases, and of course some kind of immunity has to be involved in that as nothing else has changed.’

-      Sweden will be better placed than other countries to limit further waves and outbreaks because of higher immunity

-      IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

-      Judge me in a year, he says.

I’m sure many will judge him in a year.

dignin

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/xh9wso6bEAc

In just a few short months Anders Tegnell, architect of Sweden’s unique response to the Covid-19 pandemic, has gone from unknown physician and technocrat to a household celebrity in Sweden and in countries around the world. He is beloved by some (people have even had tattoos made with his face) and intensely disliked by others. Today he is suntanned and relaxed, having just returned from his summer holiday, and wearing an open-necked polo shirt. Here is a summary of what he said:

-      In terms of migrants, travel and urban areas Sweden is more similar to the Netherlands and the UK than Norway or Finland

-      Lockdown may have made a difference, but closing schools and people being out of work is also bad for public health

-      Numbers of new infections arriving at the same time seems to make a big difference, so Stockholm half-term travellers to the Alps a big factor for Stockholm epidemic

-      Eradication is not an option, ‘we have to learn to live with this disease’

-      Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now

-      Additional immunity such as T cells playing a substantial role in slowing spread – ‘what we see right now is a rapid fall in the number of cases, and of course some kind of immunity has to be involved in that as nothing else has changed.’

-      Sweden will be better placed than other countries to limit further waves and outbreaks because of higher immunity

-      IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

-      Judge me in a year, he says.

I’m sure many will judge him in a year.

I already am with statements like this,

 "Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now".

  IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

hedonist

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/xh9wso6bEAc

In just a few short months Anders Tegnell, architect of Sweden’s unique response to the Covid-19 pandemic, has gone from unknown physician and technocrat to a household celebrity in Sweden and in countries around the world. He is beloved by some (people have even had tattoos made with his face) and intensely disliked by others. Today he is suntanned and relaxed, having just returned from his summer holiday, and wearing an open-necked polo shirt. Here is a summary of what he said:

-      In terms of migrants, travel and urban areas Sweden is more similar to the Netherlands and the UK than Norway or Finland

-      Lockdown may have made a difference, but closing schools and people being out of work is also bad for public health

-      Numbers of new infections arriving at the same time seems to make a big difference, so Stockholm half-term travellers to the Alps a big factor for Stockholm epidemic

-      Eradication is not an option, ‘we have to learn to live with this disease’

-      Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now

-      Additional immunity such as T cells playing a substantial role in slowing spread – ‘what we see right now is a rapid fall in the number of cases, and of course some kind of immunity has to be involved in that as nothing else has changed.’

-      Sweden will be better placed than other countries to limit further waves and outbreaks because of higher immunity

-      IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

-      Judge me in a year, he says.

I’m sure many will judge him in a year.

I already am with statements like this,

 "Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now".

  IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

Yeah, I was going to say the same, especially with the first part you quoted. 

mcgruff10

Spunkie

https://www.cdc.gov/mis-c/cases/index.html

I am still keeping an eye on government reporting of covid in children and found some more data. 

oftenreading

This week our government published guidelines on how to safely have sex during Covid, which apparently led to an entire country googling the term "glory hole"  

http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/prevention-risks/covid-19-and-sex

If you’re feeling fine and have no symptoms of COVID-19, you can still have sex. If you’re feeling sick, skip sex.

Sex can be very important for mental, social and physical well-being; it is a part of everyday life. People can, will and should continue to have sex during the COVID-19 pandemic. Messages that discourage or shame people from sexual contact can be harmful and may discourage people from seeking essential sexual health services.

You should always make informed and consensual decisions about sex. This resource offers some tips and strategies to help reduce the spread of COVID-19 to you, your partner(s) and your community.

How COVID-19 spreads

The COVID-19 virus is spread by liquid droplets in saliva and respiratory (breathing) fluids when a person coughs, sneezes and, sometimes, when a person talks or sings. It can be spread to people who are within 2 metres (about 6 ft) of a person with the virus if the droplets are inhaled (breathed in) or land in the mouth or nose of someone nearby - whether you are engaged in sexual activity or not. It can also be passed by touching contaminated surfaces and then touching the face, eyes, nose, or mouth.

The virus has been found in semen and feces (poop). It is not yet known if the virus is found in blood or internal genitalia/vaginal fluids. It is not yet clear if the virus can be transmitted through sex. You are your safest sex partner; your next-safest sex partner(s) is/are the person(s) you live with, or the person(s) who has close contact with only you and no one else.

If you’re feeling sick, skip sex

You should not have sex with anyone if you or your partner(s) has:

• Symptoms of COVID-19,
• Been a contact of, or had exposure to, a known case of COVID-19, or
• Been advised to self-isolate.
  

If you’re feeling well and have no symptoms of COVID-19, you can have sex

Masturbating:

You are your safest sex partner. Masturbating by yourself (solo sex) will not spread COVID-19. If you masturbate with a partner(s), physical distancing will lower your chance of getting COVID-19.

Virtual Sex:

Video dates, phone chats, sexting, online chat rooms and group cam rooms are ways to engage in sexual activity with no chance of spreading COVID-19.  Be aware of the risks of sharing information or photos online, and web camming. Some people do not share personal information or show their face or other identifiable body parts, for more privacy.

Sex with partner(s):

Having 1, or a few, regular sex partner(s) can help lower the chances of being exposed to COVID-19. Talk with your sex partner(s) about:

• The types of sexual activities you want to have with them, and
• The precautions that you can each take to make sex safer for you and your sex partner(s), like wearing a mask and social distancing, and
• Whether you or your sex partner(s), or anyone you are in contact with, have a higher chance of getting a more serious COVID-19 illness (such as someone with an underlying medical condition like diabetes, lung disease, cancer or a weakened immune system)
  

Talking about these things will help you and your sex partner(s) make informed decisions about sex, your health and the health of others.

Steps to protect yourself during sex

Here are some ways to lower the chances of being exposed to COVID-19 during sex with others:

• Ask your partner(s) if they’re feeling unwell or have any  symptoms of COVID-19.
• Consider keeping contact information for your partner(s) so that you can reach them if one of you develops symptoms.
• Before and after sex:
• Wash your body with soap and water.
• Wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds.
• Wash sex toys thoroughly per the manufacturer’s instructions. Most, but not all, can be cleaned with mild unscented soap and water. Do not share them with multiple partners.
• Wear a face covering or mask. Heavy breathing during sex can create more droplets that may transmit COVID-19.
• Avoid or limit kissing and saliva exchange.
• Choose sexual positions that limit face-to-face contact.
• Use barriers, like walls (e.g., glory holes), that allow for sexual contact but prevent close face-to-face contact.
  
• Using condoms, lubricant, and dental dams may help to further reduce the chances by minimizing contact with saliva, semen, feces, blood and/or internal genitalia/vaginal fluids during sex.

Continue to seek sexual health services, such as testing for HIV and STIs or for contraception.

• Most sexual health clinics are still open but many have reduced their hours or services.
• Check clinic finder on SmartSexResource or contact your local clinic before visiting.
• First Nations people (covered by First Nations Health Authority) may access regular, non-urgent STI testing services by either visiting their healthcare provider, if they can, or by calling 1-855-344-3800 to book an appointment with a virtual-doctor-of-the-day.
• Medical Office Assistants are available for First Nations people 7 days a week from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.
• If you want to get tested for STIs without seeing a healthcare provider in person, GetCheckedOnline is a confidential program developed by the BC Centre for Disease Control. After creating an online account, your tests will be recommended based on online assessment questions, and you can provide your samples for testing at participating lab locations in Vancouver, Victoria, Duncan, Kamloops, Nelson, and Kimberley. If you do not have an existing account, you can create one at GetCheckedOnline.
• If you have symptoms of an STI, were notified as a contact to someone with an STI, need to get started on HIV Pre Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP), have questions about birth control or pregnancy, or have another reason to be seen, contact your local sexual health clinic or health care provider.
• Regular sexual health screening is also important if you are sexually active, even if you don’t have symptoms. 
• If you have been exposed to HIV in the past 3 days and think you might need Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP), go to your nearest emergency department or contact one of the consultation sites listed on the HIV Post-Exposure Prophylaxis page of BC Centre for page of BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS website

F Me In The Brain

Hahaha.  A suggestion is to use Glory Holes.
I love Canada.  . 

oftenreading

F Me In The Brain said:

Hahaha.  A suggestion is to use Glory Holes.
I love Canada.  . 

Barriers are where it’s at, man. 

Spunkie

When I saw that all I could think of was a white, heterosexual sex. Vanilla. I think they forgot a few. I was glad that they included the covid risk pertaining to all of the bodily fluids.

Edit: re fam content

Bentleyspop

tish said:

When I saw that all I could think of was a white, heterosexual sex. Vanilla. I think they forgot a few. I was glad that they included the covid risk pertaining to all of the bodily fluids.

Damn @tish this is a family friendly site!! 😄

josevolution

Halifax2TheMax said:

hedonist said:

I was thinking it'd be quite beneficial if some emphasis were put on healthy (or healthier) living to build up immunity:  eating habits, exercise, hydration, sleep, vitamins and nutrients, etc.

I haven't seen much in the way of this; have any of you?

Well, we formally had a First Lady who put in a vegetable garden at the White House and encouraged healthy eating and more nutritious school lunch programs but she was widely ridiculed for such subversive thinking.

also blumberg for trying to get folks not to drink a gallon of soda with their Big Mac's

Zod

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/xh9wso6bEAc

In just a few short months Anders Tegnell, architect of Sweden’s unique response to the Covid-19 pandemic, has gone from unknown physician and technocrat to a household celebrity in Sweden and in countries around the world. He is beloved by some (people have even had tattoos made with his face) and intensely disliked by others. Today he is suntanned and relaxed, having just returned from his summer holiday, and wearing an open-necked polo shirt. Here is a summary of what he said:

-      In terms of migrants, travel and urban areas Sweden is more similar to the Netherlands and the UK than Norway or Finland

-      Lockdown may have made a difference, but closing schools and people being out of work is also bad for public health

-      Numbers of new infections arriving at the same time seems to make a big difference, so Stockholm half-term travellers to the Alps a big factor for Stockholm epidemic

-      Eradication is not an option, ‘we have to learn to live with this disease’

-      Evidence for masks still very weak, and they may yet be counterproductive. With all the trends going sharply down, it would make no sense to introduce them now

-      Additional immunity such as T cells playing a substantial role in slowing spread – ‘what we see right now is a rapid fall in the number of cases, and of course some kind of immunity has to be involved in that as nothing else has changed.’

-      Sweden will be better placed than other countries to limit further waves and outbreaks because of higher immunity

-      IFR of Covid-19 in final account will be 0.1% to 0.5% - “and that is not radically different to what we see with the yearly flu”

-      Judge me in a year, he says.

I’m sure many will judge him in a year.

If the lockdown, wear masks and wait for a vaccine approach actually works (and working vaccine becomes real) then I sort of think it makes Sweden look mildly bad.

If we're sitting hear a year from now, and the Vaccine's turns out to be a red herring.   I think Sweden looks pretty good.

It feels like the world can only stay on pause for so long.   They money starts to run out.  Both from people and governments.  It feels like it's all a big gamble on a workable vaccine getting distributed.   If that ends up not working, then any country the successfully curbed the spread, has most of it's population not exposed to the virus.  Meaning countries (like mine) won't be any better off 1 year from now (just broker).

No one really knows whats going to happen.   Sweden definitely feels like it's in, we've trying to work our population through coronavirus at a rate we can keep up, to create immunity, in case a vaccine is a bust.   Ergo their solution being better than other countries, will be based on the outcome of vaccines.