The coronavirus

dignin

static111 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

Wait you mean people don’t actually need what baby cow’s need? 

I've always found this interesting.

 https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an-evolutionary-whodunit-how-did-humans-develop-lactose-tolerance

Benefits of being lactase persistent in adulthoodEdit

The consumption of lactose has been shown to benefit humans with lactase persistence through adulthood. For example, the 2009 British Women's Heart and Health Study[46] investigated the effects on women's health of the alleles that coded for lactase persistence. Where the C allele indicated lactase nonpersistence and the T allele indicated lactase persistence, the study found that women who were homozygous for the C allele exhibited worse health than women with a C and a T allele and women with two T alleles. Women who were CC reported more hip and wrist fractures, more osteoporosis, and more cataracts than the other groups.[47] They also were on average 4–6 mm shorter than the other women, as well as slightly lighter in weight.[47] In addition, factors such as metabolic traits, socioeconomic status, lifestyle, and fertility were found to be unrelated to the findings, thus it can be concluded that the lactase persistence benefited the health of these women who consumed dairy products and exhibited lactase persistence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Spiritual_Chaos

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Spiritual_Chaos

According to a daily report on the corona situation from the County Administrative Board, there are now “signs of flock immunity in Stockholm”.

Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke is not surprised by the conclusion:

- Yes, it is perfectly reasonable that being the case. 50 percent of Stockholmers will have had covid-19 within a month.

He bases his view on the DNA tests and antibody studies done so far.

- Right now, about 30 percent of Stockholmers have had this infection. It's about 500,000-600,000 people, says Johan Giesecke.

What are the consequences?

- It will have small consequences for all these restrictions in our daily lives, they will be put in place for some time, but that means we have better control over the spread.

When can we feel we are passed this?

- We cannot by then because there are always some that are not infected. But when you reach 60 percent, you can safely say that it is about to shrink away.

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.

rgambs

Dude has good taste in eyeglass frames though 👌

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

Etc. 

And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.

Show me those schools outbreaks m8.

Countries are opening up their schools now. Sweden leads the way once again. This is the 1970s law against corporal punisment of children all over again. Sweden the avant garde. Leading the pack. Ahead of the curve. ABBA.

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

Etc. 

And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.

None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

I hope the tests work

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

Etc. 

And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.

None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

I hope the tests work

I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

But one expert says:

Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 
Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.

F Me In The Brain

Well godjohan would wipe the groceries it sounds like.

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Useful

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

Etc. 

And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.

None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

I hope the tests work

I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

But one expert says:

Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 
Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

What now Giesecke??

Spiritual_Chaos

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

It is terrible in my opinion.
See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.

Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

Etc. 

And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.

None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

I hope the tests work

I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

But one expert says:

Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 
Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

What now Giesecke??

What does it say?

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.

I know where you stand. The constant Sweden posts make it clear. I choose to be vigilant. Thanks again 

Halifax2TheMax

Either more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy or just more of the same chaotic and haphazard response to the pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/politics/rick-bright-vaccine-agency-coronavirus/index.html

And don't worry, just take it, what do you have to lose?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/hydroxychloroquine-veterans-study/index.html

Spiritual_Chaos

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.

I know where you stand.

https://youtu.be/7-vXEVCFldM

brianlux

Say what?

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 

I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 

Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.

True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.

Show me those schools outbreaks m8.

Countries are opening up their schools now. Sweden leads the way once again. This is the 1970s law against corporal punisment of children all over again. Sweden the avant garde. Leading the pack. Ahead of the curve. ABBA.

Sweden isn't leading, but it is #10 on the most deaths/1M population due to coronavirus.  I think it was an interesting idea to see how it would play out, unfortunately people were at risk of dying.  Now - it isn't over.  Maybe other countries with a second wave or whatever will fly past Sweden in this terrible statistic.  

Regardless, I just hope this ends soon.