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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
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    Massachusetts

    How much the state improved:

    Massachusetts started reopening on May 25. But since then, the rate of new cases has gone down, not up.

    Between May 25 and July 10, the rate of daily new cases in Massachusetts has dropped by 75%, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Between April 15 and July 14, Covid-19 hospitalizations have dropped by about 84%, and the rate of new deaths has dropped by about 95%, according to data from the Massachusetts Department of Health.

    How they helped quell coronavirus:

    Massachusetts waited to start reopening and was one of the last states to do so.

    It also enacted a mask mandate before most other states did, on May 6. But unlike some states, the mandate in Massachusetts also applies to outdoor public areas where it might not be possible to stay 6 feet away from others.

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Massachusetts is doubling down on testing to try to snuff out coronavirus in the state.

    This month, Gov. Charlie Baker announced a "Stop the Spread" testing initiative that will last until mid-August.

    The effort will focus on eight communities where the rates of Covid-19 are higher than the statewide average.

    "The goal of this initiative is to provide widespread asymptomatic testing in an easy-to-access location within these communities" to help stop community spread, Baker said.

    And Massachusetts is aiming to resume classroom education this fall -- but with face masks and distancing rules.

    "Students in grade 2 and above are required to wear a mask/face covering that covers their nose and mouth," according to initial guidance from the state education department. The same applies to teachers and staff members.

    For those unable to wear a mask, face shields may be used. And mask breaks should occur throughout the day if there's adequate distancing or ventilation.

    New Jersey

    How the state has improved:

    New Jersey was hit hard early in this pandemic, with hospitalizations and deaths soaring. The state has the highest rate of Covid-19 deaths per capita: 175 per 100,000 people.

    But now, New Jersey is among just a handful of states on track to contain Covid-19, according to CovidActNow.org, which tracks each state in four key areas: the infection rate, the test positivity rate, hospital capacity and contact tracing ability.

    While testing has increased, the rate of new cases has decreased. New Jersey now has a test positivity rate of about 1.3%.

    And the rate of transmission (Rt) is about 0.91, which means fewer and fewer people are getting infected.

    How New Jersey helped changed its course:

    In mid-March, Gov. Phil Murphy activated the National Guard and issued sweeping orders, including:

    -- The closure of all schools and universities starting on March 18

    -- The closure of all casinos, racetracks, theaters and gyms

    -- The closure of all nonessential retail, recreational and entertainment businesses after 8 p.m. each day

    New Jersey was the first state to issue a mask mandate, back on April 8.

    Businesses must provide masks to employees and deny entry to any customer who refuse to wear them inside the business. Those riding public transit in the state must also wear face masks.

    New Jersey also joined forces with New York and Connecticut on requiring visitors from hot-spot states to quarantine for 14 days.

    How New Jersey is trying to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Officials are urging residents not to get complacent just because the numbers have improved.

    "Our rate of transmission is in a good place today, but only a week ago ... it was above 1.0," the governor said Monday.

    "And if we change course, it's going to not only rise, but so will the number of positive test results, so will the number of hospitalizations, and so will the number, sadly, of residents who pass."

    Vermont

    How well the state is doing:

    Vermont has the lowest test positivity rate in the nation -- 0.78% as of Wednesday, according to Johns Hopkins University.

    It also has the 3rd lowest number of coronavirus cases per capita and the 10th lowest Covid-19 death rate of any state.

    How they helped keep their numbers low:

    Contact tracing has steadily improved in Vermont -- from an average of 2.7 contacts made per case in April to 4.8 contacts made per case in June.

    As of last week, "2,469 contacts have been identified," the Vermont Department of Health said.

    "172 contacts became a COVID-19 case. This means that this group of people knew to stay home, and likely did not spread the virus further."

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    When schools reopen this fall, "All staff and students are required to wear facial coverings while in the building, as well as outside where physical distancing cannot be maintained," according to guidance issued last month by state health and education officials. That guidance could change before the school year starts.

    And despite having the lowest test positivity rate in the country, Vermont's state of emergency will be extended for another month, Gov. Phil Scott announced Tuesday.

    "It's the vehicle we need to keep certain protections in place (and) control outbreaks as they come up, so we can keep the economy open and manage this ongoing crisis," Scott said.

    "As long as the data stays consistent, we will stick with our effort to incrementally lift restrictions and get closer to a point where this order is no longer necessary."

    It's  interesting because some people on this forum have argued that leadership doesn't really matter. That Americans will do what they are going to do regardless. These states show the opposite.
    I always believed the state level was more important than the federal level.
    It has been but I think that's probably more to do with a lack of leadership from the top. The governors that ignored Trump and did their own thing are currently in much better shape than those who took their lead from Trump.

    Also, if we think macro governing level has more of an impact, why is a Repub Trumpy governor ordering cities in his state to not make masks mandatory? Taking away their choice. It kinda defies conservative logic to me. If states know best to handle their unique situation, wouldn't we further conclude that cities would know even better? I'm left scratching my head.
    This makes no sense unless you're saying Cuomo and Murphy took their lead from Trump
    It’s weird to hear people saying NY did a great job. We lost what, 30k people? I think actual NYers were scared shit then did a good job wearing masks and staying home. If NY was a red state I’m sure people would be all over our death count and the nursing home debacle. 
    There's this weird desire to make it a red/blue thing or attempt to look at success/failure through the lens of Trump. It always results in a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening. 
    There’s scattered logic all over the place on this. Look at CA currently.  Blue as blue gets, strict early lockdowns, didn’t open too early, not a “mouth breather” state, yet they’re getting hammered.  The red/blue argument doesn’t carry weight there. 
    So what makes a state a "mouth-breather" state? 
    I’d like to know this as well
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 


    /ˈmouTHˌ brēT͟Hər/
    noun
    INFORMAL
    1. a stupid person.
    Definitions from Oxford Languages

    If a state (or person) votes for Trump....does the shoe fit?

    I'm not stating they are, just asking the question.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    Thoughts and prayers to the mouth breather states.
    ___________________________________________

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    When my allergies are really bad and I have to breath through my mouth, I get this weird overwhelming fear that I'm becoming a right wing Republican.  Damn those Republican pollination trees and plants!  
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    JimmyV said:
    Thoughts and prayers to the mouth breather states.
    https://youtu.be/tkD4xSqNVII
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  • dignin said:
    bbiggs said:
    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:

    Massachusetts

    How much the state improved:

    Massachusetts started reopening on May 25. But since then, the rate of new cases has gone down, not up.

    Between May 25 and July 10, the rate of daily new cases in Massachusetts has dropped by 75%, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Between April 15 and July 14, Covid-19 hospitalizations have dropped by about 84%, and the rate of new deaths has dropped by about 95%, according to data from the Massachusetts Department of Health.

    How they helped quell coronavirus:

    Massachusetts waited to start reopening and was one of the last states to do so.

    It also enacted a mask mandate before most other states did, on May 6. But unlike some states, the mandate in Massachusetts also applies to outdoor public areas where it might not be possible to stay 6 feet away from others.

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Massachusetts is doubling down on testing to try to snuff out coronavirus in the state.

    This month, Gov. Charlie Baker announced a "Stop the Spread" testing initiative that will last until mid-August.

    The effort will focus on eight communities where the rates of Covid-19 are higher than the statewide average.

    "The goal of this initiative is to provide widespread asymptomatic testing in an easy-to-access location within these communities" to help stop community spread, Baker said.

    And Massachusetts is aiming to resume classroom education this fall -- but with face masks and distancing rules.

    "Students in grade 2 and above are required to wear a mask/face covering that covers their nose and mouth," according to initial guidance from the state education department. The same applies to teachers and staff members.

    For those unable to wear a mask, face shields may be used. And mask breaks should occur throughout the day if there's adequate distancing or ventilation.

    New Jersey

    How the state has improved:

    New Jersey was hit hard early in this pandemic, with hospitalizations and deaths soaring. The state has the highest rate of Covid-19 deaths per capita: 175 per 100,000 people.

    But now, New Jersey is among just a handful of states on track to contain Covid-19, according to CovidActNow.org, which tracks each state in four key areas: the infection rate, the test positivity rate, hospital capacity and contact tracing ability.

    While testing has increased, the rate of new cases has decreased. New Jersey now has a test positivity rate of about 1.3%.

    And the rate of transmission (Rt) is about 0.91, which means fewer and fewer people are getting infected.

    How New Jersey helped changed its course:

    In mid-March, Gov. Phil Murphy activated the National Guard and issued sweeping orders, including:

    -- The closure of all schools and universities starting on March 18

    -- The closure of all casinos, racetracks, theaters and gyms

    -- The closure of all nonessential retail, recreational and entertainment businesses after 8 p.m. each day

    New Jersey was the first state to issue a mask mandate, back on April 8.

    Businesses must provide masks to employees and deny entry to any customer who refuse to wear them inside the business. Those riding public transit in the state must also wear face masks.

    New Jersey also joined forces with New York and Connecticut on requiring visitors from hot-spot states to quarantine for 14 days.

    How New Jersey is trying to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Officials are urging residents not to get complacent just because the numbers have improved.

    "Our rate of transmission is in a good place today, but only a week ago ... it was above 1.0," the governor said Monday.

    "And if we change course, it's going to not only rise, but so will the number of positive test results, so will the number of hospitalizations, and so will the number, sadly, of residents who pass."

    Vermont

    How well the state is doing:

    Vermont has the lowest test positivity rate in the nation -- 0.78% as of Wednesday, according to Johns Hopkins University.

    It also has the 3rd lowest number of coronavirus cases per capita and the 10th lowest Covid-19 death rate of any state.

    How they helped keep their numbers low:

    Contact tracing has steadily improved in Vermont -- from an average of 2.7 contacts made per case in April to 4.8 contacts made per case in June.

    As of last week, "2,469 contacts have been identified," the Vermont Department of Health said.

    "172 contacts became a COVID-19 case. This means that this group of people knew to stay home, and likely did not spread the virus further."

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    When schools reopen this fall, "All staff and students are required to wear facial coverings while in the building, as well as outside where physical distancing cannot be maintained," according to guidance issued last month by state health and education officials. That guidance could change before the school year starts.

    And despite having the lowest test positivity rate in the country, Vermont's state of emergency will be extended for another month, Gov. Phil Scott announced Tuesday.

    "It's the vehicle we need to keep certain protections in place (and) control outbreaks as they come up, so we can keep the economy open and manage this ongoing crisis," Scott said.

    "As long as the data stays consistent, we will stick with our effort to incrementally lift restrictions and get closer to a point where this order is no longer necessary."

    It's  interesting because some people on this forum have argued that leadership doesn't really matter. That Americans will do what they are going to do regardless. These states show the opposite.
    I always believed the state level was more important than the federal level.
    It has been but I think that's probably more to do with a lack of leadership from the top. The governors that ignored Trump and did their own thing are currently in much better shape than those who took their lead from Trump.

    Also, if we think macro governing level has more of an impact, why is a Repub Trumpy governor ordering cities in his state to not make masks mandatory? Taking away their choice. It kinda defies conservative logic to me. If states know best to handle their unique situation, wouldn't we further conclude that cities would know even better? I'm left scratching my head.
    This makes no sense unless you're saying Cuomo and Murphy took their lead from Trump
    It’s weird to hear people saying NY did a great job. We lost what, 30k people? I think actual NYers were scared shit then did a good job wearing masks and staying home. If NY was a red state I’m sure people would be all over our death count and the nursing home debacle. 
    There's this weird desire to make it a red/blue thing or attempt to look at success/failure through the lens of Trump. It always results in a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening. 
    There’s scattered logic all over the place on this. Look at CA currently.  Blue as blue gets, strict early lockdowns, didn’t open too early, not a “mouth breather” state, yet they’re getting hammered.  The red/blue argument doesn’t carry weight there. 
    So what makes a state a "mouth-breather" state? 
    I’d like to know this as well
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 


    /ˈmouTHˌ brēT͟Hər/
    noun
    INFORMAL
    1. a stupid person.
    Definitions from Oxford Languages

    If a state (or person) votes for Trump....does the shoe fit?

    I'm not stating they are, just asking the question.
    Annnnnd going to let this opportunity to by to add about ten terms to the list which I also use.

    The shoe does fit, imo.  Fits well.
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    Poncier said:
    bbiggs said:
    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:

    Massachusetts

    How much the state improved:

    Massachusetts started reopening on May 25. But since then, the rate of new cases has gone down, not up.

    Between May 25 and July 10, the rate of daily new cases in Massachusetts has dropped by 75%, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Between April 15 and July 14, Covid-19 hospitalizations have dropped by about 84%, and the rate of new deaths has dropped by about 95%, according to data from the Massachusetts Department of Health.

    How they helped quell coronavirus:

    Massachusetts waited to start reopening and was one of the last states to do so.

    It also enacted a mask mandate before most other states did, on May 6. But unlike some states, the mandate in Massachusetts also applies to outdoor public areas where it might not be possible to stay 6 feet away from others.

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Massachusetts is doubling down on testing to try to snuff out coronavirus in the state.

    This month, Gov. Charlie Baker announced a "Stop the Spread" testing initiative that will last until mid-August.

    The effort will focus on eight communities where the rates of Covid-19 are higher than the statewide average.

    "The goal of this initiative is to provide widespread asymptomatic testing in an easy-to-access location within these communities" to help stop community spread, Baker said.

    And Massachusetts is aiming to resume classroom education this fall -- but with face masks and distancing rules.

    "Students in grade 2 and above are required to wear a mask/face covering that covers their nose and mouth," according to initial guidance from the state education department. The same applies to teachers and staff members.

    For those unable to wear a mask, face shields may be used. And mask breaks should occur throughout the day if there's adequate distancing or ventilation.

    New Jersey

    How the state has improved:

    New Jersey was hit hard early in this pandemic, with hospitalizations and deaths soaring. The state has the highest rate of Covid-19 deaths per capita: 175 per 100,000 people.

    But now, New Jersey is among just a handful of states on track to contain Covid-19, according to CovidActNow.org, which tracks each state in four key areas: the infection rate, the test positivity rate, hospital capacity and contact tracing ability.

    While testing has increased, the rate of new cases has decreased. New Jersey now has a test positivity rate of about 1.3%.

    And the rate of transmission (Rt) is about 0.91, which means fewer and fewer people are getting infected.

    How New Jersey helped changed its course:

    In mid-March, Gov. Phil Murphy activated the National Guard and issued sweeping orders, including:

    -- The closure of all schools and universities starting on March 18

    -- The closure of all casinos, racetracks, theaters and gyms

    -- The closure of all nonessential retail, recreational and entertainment businesses after 8 p.m. each day

    New Jersey was the first state to issue a mask mandate, back on April 8.

    Businesses must provide masks to employees and deny entry to any customer who refuse to wear them inside the business. Those riding public transit in the state must also wear face masks.

    New Jersey also joined forces with New York and Connecticut on requiring visitors from hot-spot states to quarantine for 14 days.

    How New Jersey is trying to keep Covid-19 under control:

    Officials are urging residents not to get complacent just because the numbers have improved.

    "Our rate of transmission is in a good place today, but only a week ago ... it was above 1.0," the governor said Monday.

    "And if we change course, it's going to not only rise, but so will the number of positive test results, so will the number of hospitalizations, and so will the number, sadly, of residents who pass."

    Vermont

    How well the state is doing:

    Vermont has the lowest test positivity rate in the nation -- 0.78% as of Wednesday, according to Johns Hopkins University.

    It also has the 3rd lowest number of coronavirus cases per capita and the 10th lowest Covid-19 death rate of any state.

    How they helped keep their numbers low:

    Contact tracing has steadily improved in Vermont -- from an average of 2.7 contacts made per case in April to 4.8 contacts made per case in June.

    As of last week, "2,469 contacts have been identified," the Vermont Department of Health said.

    "172 contacts became a COVID-19 case. This means that this group of people knew to stay home, and likely did not spread the virus further."

    How they're planning to keep Covid-19 under control:

    When schools reopen this fall, "All staff and students are required to wear facial coverings while in the building, as well as outside where physical distancing cannot be maintained," according to guidance issued last month by state health and education officials. That guidance could change before the school year starts.

    And despite having the lowest test positivity rate in the country, Vermont's state of emergency will be extended for another month, Gov. Phil Scott announced Tuesday.

    "It's the vehicle we need to keep certain protections in place (and) control outbreaks as they come up, so we can keep the economy open and manage this ongoing crisis," Scott said.

    "As long as the data stays consistent, we will stick with our effort to incrementally lift restrictions and get closer to a point where this order is no longer necessary."

    It's  interesting because some people on this forum have argued that leadership doesn't really matter. That Americans will do what they are going to do regardless. These states show the opposite.
    I always believed the state level was more important than the federal level.
    It has been but I think that's probably more to do with a lack of leadership from the top. The governors that ignored Trump and did their own thing are currently in much better shape than those who took their lead from Trump.

    Also, if we think macro governing level has more of an impact, why is a Repub Trumpy governor ordering cities in his state to not make masks mandatory? Taking away their choice. It kinda defies conservative logic to me. If states know best to handle their unique situation, wouldn't we further conclude that cities would know even better? I'm left scratching my head.
    This makes no sense unless you're saying Cuomo and Murphy took their lead from Trump
    It’s weird to hear people saying NY did a great job. We lost what, 30k people? I think actual NYers were scared shit then did a good job wearing masks and staying home. If NY was a red state I’m sure people would be all over our death count and the nursing home debacle. 
    There's this weird desire to make it a red/blue thing or attempt to look at success/failure through the lens of Trump. It always results in a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening. 
    There’s scattered logic all over the place on this. Look at CA currently.  Blue as blue gets, strict early lockdowns, didn’t open too early, not a “mouth breather” state, yet they’re getting hammered.  The red/blue argument doesn’t carry weight there. 
    So what makes a state a "mouth-breather" state? 
    I’d like to know this as well
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 

    Its an ignorant way of painting folks with a broad brush and doesn't make liberals look very liberal or very affable.
    Agreed. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    Gotta say, though, judge a person by the quality of their mind, the goodness of their heart, and the fruit of their deeds, not some label. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    63 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. If we are judging people, they deserved to be judged for that.
    ___________________________________________

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,470
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    JimmyV said:
    63 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. If we are judging people, they deserved to be judged for that.

    Oh, for sure.  You know I'm not a fan of Trump or people voting for Trump.  I'm the guy who banned myself from these forums for 6 months for saying appropriate things to other forum members here who voted for Trump.  If I'm being an asshole to people I think are assholes, that makes me an asshole too.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    ___________________________________________

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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    brianlux said:
    JimmyV said:
    63 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. If we are judging people, they deserved to be judged for that.

    Oh, for sure.  You know I'm not a fan of Trump or people voting for Trump.  I'm the guy who banned myself from these forums for 6 months for saying appropriate things to other forum members here who voted for Trump.  If I'm being an asshole to people I think are assholes, that makes me an asshole too.
    Haha.  Deep stuff right there, Brian.  Very yoda-ish.  ;)

  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.
    My head is spinning just trying to process all of this.  LOL.  This is what it has come to for something as simple as sending kids to school.  We're living in the twilight zone.

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,470
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   

    Good to hear, man. Best of luck to all involved.
    ___________________________________________

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,093
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.
    My head is spinning just trying to process all of this.  LOL.  This is what it has come to for something as simple as sending kids to school.  We're living in the twilight zone.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    bbiggs said:
    pjl44 said:
    I need more details but if you're gonna close schools doing this seems patently insane on the surface 


    Yep. Let’s pull kids out of classrooms and halt their education to slow the virus spread. Then, let’s throw them into day care with no educational value.  Brilliant idea! 
    DeBlasio is full of brilliant ideas. 
    Because Team Trump Treason stole all the really good ones. Maybe Betsy has a plan for re-opening schools? Oh yea, right. Criticize all you want, at least DeBlasio is trying to figure it out. Something that's never been tried before, I might add. Some colleges and universities are looking at WeWork space, with distant learning, to reduce the numbers in classrooms. But yea, lets try nothing and hope it'll magically disappear.

    https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/07/16/city-plans-child-care-for-100-000-kids-when-schools-partially-reopen-1301436

    It was only a matter of time before this went to Trump. I can’t even critique my Mayor without it going to Trump. 
    Man, don't waste your time
    I’m not. Thank you though. 
    He has shown zero leadership on this whole crisis, I’m sure most would agree with that no ? 

    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   
    Yeah good luck 🍀 I’m sure you can handle it but I’m sure it’s not going to be easy but we will all be here to show support. I know it felt great to feel the support from you guys when we were going through it at the height of crisis here in NY..
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   


    That’s probably the best way to approach it. I think about 25 pages back I suggested this format to what dreams.

    I am concerned the big issue not many doctors are talking about are closed loop HVAC systems. The same air circulating through a building seems to be a bad idea. There must be some reason why Miami, Phoenix, LA and Houston are having a more difficult time than other cities.


  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,633
    edited July 2020
    The hospital wants to do an autopsy on my Step Dad after potential organ harvesting in case they missed something. He tested negative for Covid-19 a few days ago, and they retested last night. They said his lungs looked similar to covid cases.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,470
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   


    That’s probably the best way to approach it. I think about 25 pages back I suggested this format to what dreams.

    I am concerned the big issue not many doctors are talking about are closed loop HVAC systems. The same air circulating through a building seems to be a bad idea. There must be some reason why Miami, Phoenix, LA and Houston are having a more difficult time than other cities.


    The windows legit don’t open in both middle schools in my district.   It is going to be interesting.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • MalrothMalroth Posts: 2,524
    had to go to the grocery store during peak time last week.
    Packed, could barely get around.
    Less than 5 percent wearing masks.
    Today i hear store is going mask required next week.
    I am going again late tonight, I expect it to be packed and empty shelves as non-maskers hoard.

    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,872
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   



    I am concerned the big issue not many doctors are talking about are closed loop HVAC systems. The same air circulating through a building seems to be a bad idea. There must be some reason why Miami, Phoenix, LA and Houston are having a more difficult time than other cities.


    Couple weeks ago when the sun belt started its spike, I heard some expert talking about the "reverse summer effect", that instead of the heat and sunlight slowing/killing the virus like it does with the flu and most other similar viruses, those areas are so hot, it drove many folks indoors to air conditioned gathering spots and this virus just spreads like wildfire in that environment.
    They say airplanes have filters that can basically kill the virus, but air has to circulate in from outside through the system, not recirculate from within, and most buildings do not have outside air intake type systems.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    edited July 2020
    bbiggs said:
    brianlux said:
    JimmyV said:
    63 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. If we are judging people, they deserved to be judged for that.

    Oh, for sure.  You know I'm not a fan of Trump or people voting for Trump.  I'm the guy who banned myself from these forums for 6 months for saying appropriate things to other forum members here who voted for Trump.  If I'm being an asshole to people I think are assholes, that makes me an asshole too.
    Haha.  Deep stuff right there, Brian.  Very yoda-ish.  ;)


    LOL, b!  But of course, nobody ever called Pablo Picasso or Yoda an asshole!

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  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited July 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.

    How do you feel about it? I don't envy you parents having to decide what to do.
    I think I am ok with what I am reading.   


    That’s probably the best way to approach it. I think about 25 pages back I suggested this format to what dreams.

    I am concerned the big issue not many doctors are talking about are closed loop HVAC systems. The same air circulating through a building seems to be a bad idea. There must be some reason why Miami, Phoenix, LA and Houston are having a more difficult time than other cities.


    The windows legit don’t open in both middle schools in my district.   It is going to be interesting.  
    The windows don't open in my school either. The air coming out of the HVAC is filthy -- in normal times, the custodians wipe down the students' desks. They're fine. Every other surface is lined with a greasy dust. In our available forum to pose questions to the district, I asked where I could access an air quality report, and was reassured "our air is clean."  Yeah right.

    @Lerxst1992, my division considered the alternating day you suggested. Every school division I know considered this format. We can't abide by CDC social distancing guidelines even at half capacity, and my district is not willing to take the liability risk by not complying with the guidelines. I personally was fully prepared to go back to school 100% and teach my students because these half week/rotating schedules coupled with online preparation/delivery are a teaching nightmare. They sound good to you. You don't do the job and have no idea what it will take for these teachers being asked to hold live classes and produce online learning at the same time. I really wish all those teachers the best. They will be completely maxed out, burnt out by the end of September. Coupled with the stress of teaching during a pandemic, they are being asked to do a double prep. That is why I rejected the "half ass" solution. For me, it was either 100% live or 100% online. I'm not superhuman.

    In general, I'm sick of the "teachers don't want to work; fire them and get new teachers." I'm not saying anyone here is saying that. I just hear it everywhere else. Plenty of teachers are ready to do their jobs. We don't get to decide. We get told what to do and we do it.
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    I just went to pick up a 4 pack of beer for the weekend.  Same spot I’ve been going to for a long time that has strictly enforced masks throughout. It is also a taproom with indoor and outdoor seating. The place was packed and aside from one bartender there were zero people with masks on tonight. The door that opens up to the outside patio was closed so zero fresh air intake. Not sure what the fuck changed but I’ll be voicing my opinion to the owner when I see him.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    bbiggs said:
    I just went to pick up a 4 pack of beer for the weekend.  Same spot I’ve been going to for a long time that has strictly enforced masks throughout. It is also a taproom with indoor and outdoor seating. The place was packed and aside from one bartender there were zero people with masks on tonight. The door that opens up to the outside patio was closed so zero fresh air intake. Not sure what the fuck changed but I’ll be voicing my opinion to the owner when I see him.

    That sucks!  I hope you got your beer.  I'm not a heavy drinker but keep a couple of 12 packs around for safe measure!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Why would Americans want to come to Canada? 


  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423

    PJNB said:
    Why would Americans want to come to Canada? 



    “If you want to get away from Americans, you might” would also have been an acceptable answer. 

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