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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    edited March 2020
    @brianlux if you need sanitizer at work you can mix it yourself. The WHO has recipes. You take Isopropyl (at least 70%) and can mix it with hydrogen peroxide (against germs) and glycerol (keeps your hands hydrated). So it’d be a good start to get Isopropyl 
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,206
    So, i must take out of my mind my Italy trip In May??
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    23scidoo said:
    So, i must take out of my mind my Italy trip In May??
    At least be prepared. I plan to go the first two weeks of June and I’m thinking of alternatives just in case.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,206
    JPPJ84 said:
    23scidoo said:
    So, i must take out of my mind my Italy trip In May??
    At least be prepared. I plan to go the first two weeks of June and I’m thinking of alternatives just in case.
    Which is??
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    23scidoo said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    23scidoo said:
    So, i must take out of my mind my Italy trip In May??
    At least be prepared. I plan to go the first two weeks of June and I’m thinking of alternatives just in case.
    Which is??
    Well I’m thinking about the Shetlands but that may not be your cup of tea ;)
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,683
    Shetlands looks very peaceful
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,521
    edited March 2020
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,448
    52 in Sweden now.  Damn people skiing in Italy.
    94 in Sweden now.
    137 cases in Sweden now.
    161 cases in Sweden now.


    203 cases in Sweden now. 

    Now the US has joined in, having one being infected over there.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    I don’t believe anything this administration has to say about any issues at all! I rebuke all their info 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,381
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    I don’t believe anything this administration has to say about any issues at all! I rebuke all their info 
    This is how I feel about ANY administration 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    I don’t believe anything this administration has to say about any issues at all! I rebuke all their info 
    This is how I feel about ANY administration 
    Present tense!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,332
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    I don’t believe anything this administration has to say about any issues at all! I rebuke all their info 
    This is how I feel about ANY administration 
    No. No administration in my lifetime has lied like this one has.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,381
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!
    This is clearly the case.  They know the numerator but the denominator is “self reported.”   Actually, the administration was pointing this out.  
    I don’t believe anything this administration has to say about any issues at all! I rebuke all their info 
    This is how I feel about ANY administration 
    No. No administration in my lifetime has lied like this one has.
    Ok. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,594
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    JPPJ84 said:
    @brianlux if you need sanitizer at work you can mix it yourself. The WHO has recipes. You take Isopropyl (at least 70%) and can mix it with hydrogen peroxide (against germs) and glycerol (keeps your hands hydrated). So it’d be a good start to get Isopropyl 

    Good idea, JPP, thanks.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,594
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,448
    edited March 2020

    Your dinner is worse than Corona


    The SARS outbreak in Asia in 2003 seems to have begun with the delicacy of palm grove, a red-gray cat-like animal. MERS, with a mortality rate of over 30% that has plagued the Arabian Peninsula since 2013 in various outbreaks, seems to come from human association with camels. Both SARS and MERS are coronavirus, now under control. But here we are again - with a new virus from the same family, which is also believed to be derived from man's meddlesomeness contact with animals. In the case of covid-19, the researchers' hypotheses point to a fish market. Studies also indicate that bats, with their special immune system, are a central carrier of the very disease-causing coronavirus.

    /.../

    I often think about how strange it is to sit in special STRAMA rounds in the hospital and carefully go through antibiotic selection for the patients with infection specialists, to then go off to the staff dining room and squeeze in a halloumi casserole or pork chop. Why don't we talk about this in healthcare? Why does STRAMA chirp "Eat more Swedish meat (we have the strictest rules on antibiotics in animals in the world)!" like another meat  commercial?

    Enter the outspoken professor of infectious diseases again: "It is a kind of rape on one of medicine's greatest miracles."

    It is the hardhitting and most powerful I have ever heard someone say on the issue. Björn Olsen continues in the same interview:
    “One thing we can do, which we actually have to do, is agree on an absolute stop for antibiotic use in meat production, agriculture, everything like that. Antibiotics are exclusive to a single animal species on earth, and it is human. And it should be used for the weakest people, those who really need it. Otherwise, this will go to hell. ”

    By 2050, fifty million people are estimated to die from antimicrobial resistance - more than cancer and diabetes together, according to a report commissioned by the British government. It is also likely far far more lives than covid-19 will harvest. The purpose of this text is not to inflame dystopian thoughts in the midst of people's concerns and confusion over hand washing (do it more) and mouth protection (don't use it), but to point out the connections. Coronavirus and influenza will come and go. If we are really unlucky, we can suffer from something that is combined immensely contagious and deadly. The best thing we can do to increase the chance of our own species' survival is not just to research new drugs and  not to spread infection. We have to stop with dirty animal markets. We have to shut down industrial factory breeding. We have to stop wasting antibiotics. Perhaps through the simplest strategy of all: Just leave the animals in peace.

    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/?fbclid=IwAR2ZPJIjZwPp_vqS49Puvp81ISsEASPV5nfMSIVmxccqboq6JPdHO-MN4qU
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  

    I can chant USA as a perjorative every day if I want to, and twice on Sundays. And since it's Sunday..... USA! USA! USA!

    Also, you misunderstood - that was the Trump administration chanting USA!
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  

    I can chant USA as a perjorative every day if I want to, and twice on Sundays. And since it's Sunday..... USA! USA! USA!

    Also, you misunderstood - that was the Trump administration chanting USA!

    I'm not into chanting USA as either a jingoist or nationalist, nor in a hateful mocking manner like yours.  But, yeah, you can chant.  No one will stop you.  But so what?  You think all Americans are alike?  Think again. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  

    I can chant USA as a perjorative every day if I want to, and twice on Sundays. And since it's Sunday..... USA! USA! USA!

    Also, you misunderstood - that was the Trump administration chanting USA!

    I'm not into chanting USA as either a jingoist or nationalist, nor in a hateful mocking manner like yours.  But, yeah, you can chant.  No one will stop you.  But so what?  You think all Americans are alike?  Think again. 
    Someone’s sarcasm detector is broken :weary: 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,594
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  

    I can chant USA as a perjorative every day if I want to, and twice on Sundays. And since it's Sunday..... USA! USA! USA!

    Also, you misunderstood - that was the Trump administration chanting USA!

    I'm not into chanting USA as either a jingoist or nationalist, nor in a hateful mocking manner like yours.  But, yeah, you can chant.  No one will stop you.  But so what?  You think all Americans are alike?  Think again. 
    Someone’s sarcasm detector is broken :weary: 
    I understand you're not seeking to be malicious, but a few things on this topic:

    1. Chanting USA is common at all political rallies, even Democratic ones.  You'll hear it at the convention this summer.  We also chant the same at Olympic events, as I'm sure you have Canadian pride.  

    2. More importantly, the mindset of that the Republicans own such a chant and own patriotism in general is core to Trump's strategy.  He seeks to divide us with patriotism.  He says all the time that a shot at him is a shot that USA because he IS the USA.  He's not.  So for many of us down here, it's really important that we don't give yield patriotism to him. Democrats already yielded Jesus, which bothers me to this day. And now his teachings are distorted constantly.
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Northern Italy is on lockdown. Curious to see how other countries follow up.
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2020
    100 years ago in Seattle Newspaper Oct 1918... funny, we haven't changed that much. 

    Zoomable PDF History.org version -  

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3?amp I’m sure this administration would rebuke this information!

    The US has certainly bungled the whole testing issue. 
    Because the Trump administration values loyalty and political expediency,  not competence. 
    USA! USA! USA!

    The bungling started when the US refused to use perfectly adequate test kits developed elsewhere, like Germany, and decided it needed to develop its own, which of course took time.  And then they bungled the first kit.
    yes, agreed, but don't chant "USA" as a pejorative.  More than half the country thinks he's an idiot.  

    I can chant USA as a perjorative every day if I want to, and twice on Sundays. And since it's Sunday..... USA! USA! USA!

    Also, you misunderstood - that was the Trump administration chanting USA!

    I'm not into chanting USA as either a jingoist or nationalist, nor in a hateful mocking manner like yours.  But, yeah, you can chant.  No one will stop you.  But so what?  You think all Americans are alike?  Think again. 
    Someone’s sarcasm detector is broken :weary: 

    Fair enough, sorry.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    edited March 2020
    Don't die in silence!



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