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  • CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Went to Costco last night just for pizza. Saw half the cleaning shelves just empty. No TP, paper towels, Lysol, etc. 
    I still don’t understand why this virus makes people want to stock up on toilet paper? Do they think they’ll stop making it or something?
    Wait, you went to Costco ..... for pizza? 

    😜😜
    Best pizza in Manhattan
    They sell Lou Malnati's at Costco?
    I almost would prefer getting The Rona to eating at Lou's and getting the accompanying "Taking a Lou" when the explosive diarrhea sets in.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,332

    How testing failures allowed coronavirus to sweep the U.S.

    The Trump administration’s decision to forgo a World Health Organization test and create its own had fateful consequences, experts say


    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166?=
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,325
    edited March 2020
    I find it a little disingenuous to ask the average person to chill out at Costco when Wall Street has sold off 40% of their retirement savings in just three weeks time. If I decide not to go to Denver now, it will be because I need to save my money. Jesus.
    What does one have to do with the other? I’m sorry you’re in that boat, sucks for everyone who is. But why does that make it disingenuous to ask why are people raiding Costco of supplies? Ive never seen isles in Costco completely empty and sold out like I did this week. To buy shopping carts full of just toilet paper is freaking out. Buying pallets of bottle water when the tap water is fine is freaking out when you don’t need to.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Went to Costco last night just for pizza. Saw half the cleaning shelves just empty. No TP, paper towels, Lysol, etc. 
    I still don’t understand why this virus makes people want to stock up on toilet paper? Do they think they’ll stop making it or something?
    Wait, you went to Costco ..... for pizza? 

    😜😜
    Best pizza in Manhattan
    They sell Lou Malnati's at Costco?
    I almost would prefer getting The Rona to eating at Lou's and getting the accompanying "Taking a Lou" when the explosive diarrhea sets in.

    I would have said pequod's. But I don't want my little Chicago pizza. secret to get out.

    Not familiar with The Rona?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    mace1229 said:
    I find it a little disingenuous to ask the average person to chill out at Costco when Wall Street has sold off 40% of their retirement savings in just three weeks time. If I decide not to go to Denver now, it will be because I need to save my money. Jesus.
    What does one have to do with the other? I’m sorry you’re in that boat, sucks for everyone who is. But why does that make it disingenuous to ask why are people raiding Costco of supplies? Ive never seen isles in Costco completely empty and sold out like I did this week. To buy shopping carts full of just toilet paper is freaking out. Buying pallets of bottle water when the tap water is fine is freaking out when you don’t need to.

    I agree to both points, Mace. 

    What dreams, I too am sorry if your savings are taking a hit.  So are mine and at my age, my prospects of building a bigger retirement portfolio are not great.  I'm still working, but because I'm in retail, that may not be for long.  But that does not give me the right nor the inclination to buy shit loads of toilet paper and bottled water.  I'm not going to get caught up in that kind of hysteria.  How long will that stuff last anyway?  And then what?  People are not thinking, they are reacting.  And they are reacting in a typically predictable, senseless manner.   We humans are creating our own undoing. 

    I've seen this coming for decades.  Somehow, I'd hoped it would not come down to this.  I'd somehow hoped we would find a way to sensibly resolve our current difficult issues like we have done at times in the past.  Maybe we still will find away out of this mess.  But I'm not holding my breath.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    https://apple.news/AiDb8xR5ESNiDnWz7cOTPlA
    he really believes the virus is contained I bet s as lot of his supporters believe him! Unreal how much of an arrogant idiot he really is!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,730
    brianlux said:
    myoung321 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    myoung321 said:
    dignin said:
    I've talked with two different people this week....one is a lab technician and another a surgeon.

    Both say that this virus is nothing to be real concerned about.  The surgeon told me that there are likely hundreds of people that have had the virus and just considered it an upper respiratory cold. 

    Interesting perspectives.  They are either correct or insane.
    I’m no doctor, but I’ve read and listen to them. I do think that for the normal population this isn’t a huge deal other than the fear of the unknown. But for the at risk population it’s an enormously big deal 
    Yes. If your immune system is compromised or have any chronic lung issues this could be a very big deal. Both my father and mother are high risk, father has COPD and mother has Lupus that has damaged her lungs.

     
    or any type of Heart issues... 
    Yes, that too.

    Stay safe, at least the big man is taking charge.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1236059773231079430?s=12

    Unbelievable.

    "Trump muses that he could’ve become a research scientist instead of president."

    Uhhh, yeah.  And if I had wanted to, I coulda been a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix.  Riiiiiiiight.
    I think of all Trump "moments" this CDC thing is simply mind-blowing!!!. How anyone with any basic common sense can watch that and not see his idiocy is beyond my ability to comprehend. Seriously... WTF people? 

    Truly!  Mind blowing it is.  How the fuck did (at least some of) America get this way?
    I blame Obama
    Or was it Hillary
    Or the SOCIALISTS
    I get confused 
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    brianlux said:
    myoung321 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    myoung321 said:
    dignin said:
    I've talked with two different people this week....one is a lab technician and another a surgeon.

    Both say that this virus is nothing to be real concerned about.  The surgeon told me that there are likely hundreds of people that have had the virus and just considered it an upper respiratory cold. 

    Interesting perspectives.  They are either correct or insane.
    I’m no doctor, but I’ve read and listen to them. I do think that for the normal population this isn’t a huge deal other than the fear of the unknown. But for the at risk population it’s an enormously big deal 
    Yes. If your immune system is compromised or have any chronic lung issues this could be a very big deal. Both my father and mother are high risk, father has COPD and mother has Lupus that has damaged her lungs.

     
    or any type of Heart issues... 
    Yes, that too.

    Stay safe, at least the big man is taking charge.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1236059773231079430?s=12

    Unbelievable.

    "Trump muses that he could’ve become a research scientist instead of president."

    Uhhh, yeah.  And if I had wanted to, I coulda been a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix.  Riiiiiiiight.
    I think of all Trump "moments" this CDC thing is simply mind-blowing!!!. How anyone with any basic common sense can watch that and not see his idiocy is beyond my ability to comprehend. Seriously... WTF people? 

    Truly!  Mind blowing it is.  How the fuck did (at least some of) America get this way?
    I blame Obama
    Or was it Hillary
    Or the SOCIALISTS
    I get confused 
     

    "The [coronavirus] tests are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. This was not a perfect as that, but pretty good." 

    Embedded video
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    myoung321 said:
    brianlux said:
    myoung321 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    myoung321 said:
    dignin said:
    I've talked with two different people this week....one is a lab technician and another a surgeon.

    Both say that this virus is nothing to be real concerned about.  The surgeon told me that there are likely hundreds of people that have had the virus and just considered it an upper respiratory cold. 

    Interesting perspectives.  They are either correct or insane.
    I’m no doctor, but I’ve read and listen to them. I do think that for the normal population this isn’t a huge deal other than the fear of the unknown. But for the at risk population it’s an enormously big deal 
    Yes. If your immune system is compromised or have any chronic lung issues this could be a very big deal. Both my father and mother are high risk, father has COPD and mother has Lupus that has damaged her lungs.

     
    or any type of Heart issues... 
    Yes, that too.

    Stay safe, at least the big man is taking charge.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1236059773231079430?s=12

    Unbelievable.

    "Trump muses that he could’ve become a research scientist instead of president."

    Uhhh, yeah.  And if I had wanted to, I coulda been a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix.  Riiiiiiiight.
    I think of all Trump "moments" this CDC thing is simply mind-blowing!!!. How anyone with any basic common sense can watch that and not see his idiocy is beyond my ability to comprehend. Seriously... WTF people? 

    Truly!  Mind blowing it is.  How the fuck did (at least some of) America get this way?
    I blame Obama
    Or was it Hillary
    Or the SOCIALISTS
    I get confused 
     

    "The [coronavirus] tests are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. This was not a perfect as that, but pretty good." 

    Embedded video

    The man is a master of words.  At least in terms of butchering the language.  Did someone take an egg beater to his brains?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,448
    52 in Sweden now.  Damn people skiing in Italy.
    94 in Sweden now.
    137 cases in Sweden now.
    161 cases in Sweden now.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,783
    Lebron says he won't play for an empty arena.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    52 in Sweden now.  Damn people skiing in Italy.
    94 in Sweden now.
    137 cases in Sweden now.
    161 cases in Sweden now.



    I'm not sure keeping score is helpful.  I'm not saying, "Hey don't do that", but maybe consider that it serves only to drive up anxiety in others (and maybe that's just me because I am older, and I am more vulnerable that many and I don't want to miss out on turning 70, etc.)   It's going to speared, the numbers will increase.  I think we all know that.  Regular reminders might not be very helpful. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,430
    edited March 2020
    Way to instill confidence there Matt. On the House floor no less.


      couple days after one of his constituents died of covid-19...... and 2 new cases in his district......
     

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,371
    Respect


  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,430
    edited March 2020


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    CM189191 said:
    The hypocrisy & smugness of Republicans is disgraceful disgusting despicable! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,447
    Definitely the right call imo.  The us is too fucking ignorant to do something like this.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    I find it a little disingenuous to ask the average person to chill out at Costco when Wall Street has sold off 40% of their retirement savings in just three weeks time. If I decide not to go to Denver now, it will be because I need to save my money. Jesus.
    What does one have to do with the other? I’m sorry you’re in that boat, sucks for everyone who is. But why does that make it disingenuous to ask why are people raiding Costco of supplies? Ive never seen isles in Costco completely empty and sold out like I did this week. To buy shopping carts full of just toilet paper is freaking out. Buying pallets of bottle water when the tap water is fine is freaking out when you don’t need to.

    I agree to both points, Mace. 

    What dreams, I too am sorry if your savings are taking a hit.  So are mine and at my age, my prospects of building a bigger retirement portfolio are not great.  I'm still working, but because I'm in retail, that may not be for long.  But that does not give me the right nor the inclination to buy shit loads of toilet paper and bottled water.  I'm not going to get caught up in that kind of hysteria.  How long will that stuff last anyway?  And then what?  People are not thinking, they are reacting.  And they are reacting in a typically predictable, senseless manner.   We humans are creating our own undoing. 

    I've seen this coming for decades.  Somehow, I'd hoped it would not come down to this.  I'd somehow hoped we would find a way to sensibly resolve our current difficult issues like we have done at times in the past.  Maybe we still will find away out of this mess.  But I'm not holding my breath.
    I guess my point is that people may not have started to panic if Wall Street hadn't panicked first. Shit didn't start flying off the Costco shelves until the stock market tanked. 
    Just to be clear, I have not panicked. I did go to WalMart to buy Lysol wipes to clean my students' desks at school because one of them gave me ringworm this past week, but that's it. 
  • rhanishanerhanishane Posts: 505
    3rd death in Australia now but we're all quite old people. Panic buying insanity people are seriously mental here🙄2 woman charged yesterday for punching on over a pack of toilet rolls and they wouldn't give up one packet out of their trolley load! And another fighting with an old lady who just wanted one pack of toilet rolls whilst other lady had 4 jumbo packs. So many selfish dumb arses.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    I went to the supermarket this morning and it was quiet for a weekend. People probably staying at home in fear of contracting the virus. The toilet paper and tissue aisle was completely empty.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mcgruff10 said:
    Definitely the right call imo.  The us is too fucking ignorant to do something like this.  


    I suppose that's one way to look at it.

    Another way to look at it is: we're a giant country with a huge population and border. 

    We can't keep people from coming and going, how can we expect to stop a virus?

    But you know, protectionism and isolationism have worked so well in the past...

    🙄
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    edited March 2020
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    I find it a little disingenuous to ask the average person to chill out at Costco when Wall Street has sold off 40% of their retirement savings in just three weeks time. If I decide not to go to Denver now, it will be because I need to save my money. Jesus.
    What does one have to do with the other? I’m sorry you’re in that boat, sucks for everyone who is. But why does that make it disingenuous to ask why are people raiding Costco of supplies? Ive never seen isles in Costco completely empty and sold out like I did this week. To buy shopping carts full of just toilet paper is freaking out. Buying pallets of bottle water when the tap water is fine is freaking out when you don’t need to.

    I agree to both points, Mace. 

    What dreams, I too am sorry if your savings are taking a hit.  So are mine and at my age, my prospects of building a bigger retirement portfolio are not great.  I'm still working, but because I'm in retail, that may not be for long.  But that does not give me the right nor the inclination to buy shit loads of toilet paper and bottled water.  I'm not going to get caught up in that kind of hysteria.  How long will that stuff last anyway?  And then what?  People are not thinking, they are reacting.  And they are reacting in a typically predictable, senseless manner.   We humans are creating our own undoing. 

    I've seen this coming for decades.  Somehow, I'd hoped it would not come down to this.  I'd somehow hoped we would find a way to sensibly resolve our current difficult issues like we have done at times in the past.  Maybe we still will find away out of this mess.  But I'm not holding my breath.
    I guess my point is that people may not have started to panic if Wall Street hadn't panicked first. Shit didn't start flying off the Costco shelves until the stock market tanked. 
    Just to be clear, I have not panicked. I did go to WalMart to buy Lysol wipes to clean my students' desks at school because one of them gave me ringworm this past week, but that's it. 

    I didn't know the market tanked before the panic buying.  It's all happened so fast!  I'm guessing some companies stocks are soaring due to that panic buying while others plunge.   Overall though, you're right, the market has taken a hit. 

    Good move buying the Lysol wipes. Schools are a major concern for the spread of virus so I'm glad to hear you did that as well as glad to hear that some schools in general are being pro-active about sanitizing class rooms.  Hopefully parents are teaching kids about general good personal hygiene. 

    I too went out earlier in the week and bought a few containers of wipes and what little I could find in the way of hand sanitzer to use at the bookstore. Unfortunately, right now there is none to be had.  Hopefully stores will be able to re-stock soon.  Soap still seems to be fairly available. 

    I'm getting a bit nervous about working with the public.  A young couple were in the store this afternoon and the guy was sniffling and snorting and the girl was coughing a lot.  I thought, "REALLY?  You people are out in public?"  I stayed as far away as possible.  People need to stay home if they are sick or appear sick.  It's unnerving as hell to be around them!


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rhanishanerhanishane Posts: 505
    11.2 million people in Aus now have compromised lungs after the bushfires. It's spreading from doctors to healthcare workers to patients and schools and nursing homes. Western Sydney is a hot spot for it. Those tested positive in self isolation have continued to work and expose the virus to multiple people including one student who continued to work in a busy hotel. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    11.2 million people in Aus now have compromised lungs after the bushfires. It's spreading from doctors to healthcare workers to patients and schools and nursing homes. Western Sydney is a hot spot for it. Those tested positive in self isolation have continued to work and expose the virus to multiple people including one student who continued to work in a busy hotel. 

    Very sorry to hear that, rhanishane.  I hope you are well.  How is it that people are testing positive in self isolation and continuing to work?  Do you mean working from home?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    Disgraceful gutter rats are advertising toilet paper and hand sanitiser that they raided from supermarkets in a Facebook buy, swap, sell group I am part of.
    Some sick bitch advertised small bottles of hand sanitiser for $50 each. She raided a supermarket shelf and is now on-selling for way more than they are worth.
    There's been people selling packs of toilet paper rolls for very high amounts.
    These people are scum. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    Disgraceful gutter rats are advertising toilet paper and hand sanitiser that they raided from supermarkets in a Facebook buy, swap, sell group I am part of.
    Some sick bitch advertised small bottles of hand sanitiser for $50 each. She raided a supermarket shelf and is now on-selling for way more than they are worth.
    There's been people selling packs of toilet paper rolls for very high amounts.
    These people are scum. 

    That is totally disgusting.  Even if they didn't steal it in the first place and are just selling their own, that's just wrong.  I hope no one takes the bait.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    Disgraceful gutter rats are advertising toilet paper and hand sanitiser that they raided from supermarkets in a Facebook buy, swap, sell group I am part of.
    Some sick bitch advertised small bottles of hand sanitiser for $50 each. She raided a supermarket shelf and is now on-selling for way more than they are worth.
    There's been people selling packs of toilet paper rolls for very high amounts.
    These people are scum. 

    That is totally disgusting.  Even if they didn't steal it in the first place and are just selling their own, that's just wrong.  I hope no one takes the bait.
    Not stolen, they've been filling their shopping trollies full of toilet paper, tissues, and hand sanitiser.
    Maybe you thought I meant stolen when I said raided. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    brianlux said:
    Disgraceful gutter rats are advertising toilet paper and hand sanitiser that they raided from supermarkets in a Facebook buy, swap, sell group I am part of.
    Some sick bitch advertised small bottles of hand sanitiser for $50 each. She raided a supermarket shelf and is now on-selling for way more than they are worth.
    There's been people selling packs of toilet paper rolls for very high amounts.
    These people are scum. 

    That is totally disgusting.  Even if they didn't steal it in the first place and are just selling their own, that's just wrong.  I hope no one takes the bait.
    Not stolen, they've been filling their shopping trollies full of toilet paper, tissues, and hand sanitiser.
    Maybe you thought I meant stolen when I said raided. 

    Ah, I see.  Thanks for clarification.  In any case, it's worse than highway robbery.  Highway robbery is bad enough- random theft of random victim.  But this sounds more like plunder, deprivation, and fleecing all rolled onto one nasty ball.  Bad karma!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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