You have the drummer that did Jesus Christ Pose. This is like using Frank Thomas to bunt.
yeh, and one of the greatest rhythm guitar players ever playing bass, greatest bass players playing keyboards, and greatest lead guitarist playing 3 notes over and over again... I think it was written yesterday, a few hours before release... 1st Take. LOL
@brianlux you need to give it a chance brother. I thought I was gonna hate it after the first listen. It has gotten better and better each listen and Im loving it now.
I made it through about 1/2 minute before moving on. Sorry guys, but this sounds like a bad imitation of 80's new wave with David Byrne with a scratchy throat. on vocals.
Also, if you're giving up after 30 seconds ... it's really at about the 2-minute mark where Mike slides in with the Prince-sounding guitar that things really start to get good.
Full disclosure, this really isn't my style of music. I wasn't a huge fan of 80s new wave when it was new. Probably I would have pulled the plug 30 seconds in on any other band. I kept with it and have re-listened because it's these guys. And it's fine. It's not my favorite track they've ever done, but there are definitely things about it I like. I will enjoy hearing it performed live.
This is dead on for me last night. I don’t love new wave but with each listen this song really works. It’s great!
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Take a bow Pearl Jam , take a bow... 10 albums in and they could have easily rehashed one of them to release somethig which sounds the same . But they've come up with DotC which is simply phenomenal..have had 2 days with it and simply adore it ... that outro live is going to huuuuge! Will take something special to supplant this as track of the year for me... We as fans are very lucky indeed.
Take a bow Pearl Jam , take a bow... 10 albums in and they could have easily rehashed one of them to release somethig which sounds the same . But they've come up with DotC which is simply phenomenal..have had 2 days with it and simply adore it ... that outro live is going to huuuuge! Will take something special to supplant this as track of the year for me... We as fans are very lucky indeed.
Maybe Superblood Wolfmoon will with such a crazy title it has to be big just listened to DotC again... yep, still awesome
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Getting back to the song itself, the more I get acquainted with it the more I find myself enjoying it more and more. Listening to the groove and how the band as a whole contributes to the synergy that occurs - of course that is present in all of their songs however with a style such as this which is very groove based both drum-wise and guitar and bass-wise, it is even more evident
You have the drummer that did Jesus Christ Pose. This is like using Frank Thomas to bunt.
Underrated post.
Although going back to that idea - wouldn't going all "Jesus Christ Pose" on this song be a bit overkill?
As a guitar player, I know when it is time to do my Steve Vai impression, and when to hang out on one note and really make that one note count a la BB King. Matt Cameron is a competent drummer, I find what he is doing to this song is adding music, not simply drum parts. And that is why it works so well.
Going "Jesus Chris Pose" on a four on the floor New Wave song with a vibey meditative ostinado jam would be just as out of place as doing a Neil Peart drum fill over a Norah Jones song in my opinion
I give them an “A” for trying something different. I give them a “C” for execution.
I’d prefer the synth sound in the first ~20-25 seconds be removed and then remove the last ~25-30 seconds of the song to shorten/tighten it up so I don’t lose interest.
It will be interesting to hear how it sounds when performed live.
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Only given it 4-5 listens over 24 hours. I like it! It’s different, the bands always evolving, looking forward to the rest of the record. I don’t want to listen to it too much so I listen with fresh ears when the albums released as a whole.
The music video reminds me of that video Eddie, Jeff, and Cliff were watching in the "Singles" movie. Remember that part when they were watching some bee pollination video or something?
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Would I love this song if played by any other band ? Not sure, but probably not. Played by this band? Damn sure I love it. Haunting track. They wouldn't have released many more albums playing Got Some-like and Let The Record Play-like songs. But I can see then evolving into a new sound for the next decade. So Dance of the Clairvoyants is mostly welcomed.
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The music video reminds me of that video Eddie, Jeff, and Cliff were watching in the "Singles" movie. Remember that part when they were watching some bee pollination video or something?
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The Rolling Stone review said it best that you can tell the band is still trying and its a group effort to write and play this music...these guys arent cashing it in 30 years later and we should be happy about that
Ive had this song on repeat non-stop...love it...can't wait to hear it live in St. Louis
1st time poster :-). On first listen to my ears it's got a definite Cure groove. New directions and horizons are good, the band needs to keep on evolving. Would have liked Ed a bit more up,front and centre in the mix. I'm sure rest of album won't disappoint.
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I'm liking the song.
HOPE this is a good sign for the rest of the album.
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with such a crazy title it has to be big
just listened to DotC again... yep, still awesome
Getting back to the song itself, the more I get acquainted with it the more I find myself enjoying it more and more. Listening to the groove and how the band as a whole contributes to the synergy that occurs - of course that is present in all of their songs however with a style such as this which is very groove based both drum-wise and guitar and bass-wise, it is even more evident
As a guitar player, I know when it is time to do my Steve Vai impression, and when to hang out on one note and really make that one note count a la BB King. Matt Cameron is a competent drummer, I find what he is doing to this song is adding music, not simply drum parts. And that is why it works so well.
Going "Jesus Chris Pose" on a four on the floor New Wave song with a vibey meditative ostinado jam would be just as out of place as doing a Neil Peart drum fill over a Norah Jones song in my opinion
I’d prefer the synth sound in the first ~20-25 seconds be removed and then remove the last ~25-30 seconds of the song to shorten/tighten it up so I don’t lose interest.
It will be interesting to hear how it sounds when performed live.
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My thoughts too! Make me laugh! THE BEES!
By the way, great video!
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Ive had this song on repeat non-stop...love it...can't wait to hear it live in St. Louis
On first listen to my ears it's got a definite Cure groove.
New directions and horizons are good, the band needs to keep on evolving.
Would have liked Ed a bit more up,front and centre in the mix.
I'm sure rest of album won't disappoint.