Ughhh... sounds like a demo written in 20 minutes... Ed's not even singing, just blurting our cliches... is Stone even in the band anymore???
This sounds like a rough draft...not thought out...put together on a whim.
Do fans even pay attention to who PJ is anymore?
Well, they sell out every show so i would say yes...
This is not technically true. They came close to selling out, but did not actually sell out, any 2018 show for which box office data was made available, according to Billboard Boxscore.
I don't have older data at my fingertips, but they also have not sold out shows in the South and Midwest in recent years, and they have not sold out all shows on some multiple-night stands.
I think we all want to like Pearl Jam and have given the song a chance. I played it for someone at work who is not a fan and they laughed when Ed started singing. It sounds forced. I like it because I gave it a chance, but am curious how the non-fans will take it. I'll probably have a bunch of coworkers listen and see what they say.
All the non-fans who can't stand or like to parody Vedder's vocal delivery are gonna have a great time trashing this song and probably the entire album. Not that I really care what they think.
Ughhh... sounds like a demo written in 20 minutes... Ed's not even singing, just blurting our cliches... is Stone even in the band anymore???
This sounds like a rough draft...not thought out...put together on a whim.
Do fans even pay attention to who PJ is anymore?
Well, they sell out every show so i would say yes...
This is not technically true. They came close to selling out, but did not actually sell out, any 2018 show for which box office data was made available, according to Billboard Boxscore.
I don't have older data at my fingertips, but they also have not sold out shows in the South and Midwest in recent years, and they have not sold out all shows on some multiple-night stands.
yeah, because nobody buys the 50 seats in the far back corner top row a mile away, so "technically" not a sell out... yet every arena has been packed to the ceiling for 30 years so I'd consider it a "sell-out".
Sounded like new RHCP based on the snippet we first received, I did not think of Talking Heads right away until a buddy shared his feedback, maybe a little Townshend growl and then a Peter Gabriel vibe on the 2nd half. (Glancing through the comments, people have all picked up on that and more!)
Jury is still out for me though. Need a bunch more listens.
1995 - Milwaukee, Night 1 ~~~ 2004 - VFC Toledo ~~~ 2006 - Chicago, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2009 - Chicago, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2011 - PJ 20 East Troy, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2013 - Wrigley ~~~ 2014 - Moline ~~~ 2016 - Wrigley, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2018 - Wrigley, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2022 - STL~~~ 2023 - Chicago, Night 1 & 2
I think we all want to like Pearl Jam and have given the song a chance. I played it for someone at work who is not a fan and they laughed when Ed started singing. It sounds forced. I like it because I gave it a chance, but am curious how the non-fans will take it. I'll probably have a bunch of coworkers listen and see what they say.
All the non-fans who can't stand or like to parody Vedder's vocal delivery are gonna have a great time trashing this song and probably the entire album. Not that I really care what they think.
When I say non-fans, I mean people who may not even know a PJ song. They could be 23 years old and listening to Ariana Grande. I'm not talking about 40 year olds who still think Nirvana is the best ever and hate Eddie.
My first response was "this must be a bad parody" but then got to the chorus and gave it a for more listens. Love it.
i'm guessing this tour is going to have really ramped up production; big video screen with tons of visuals of nature and how the world has changed and images of corporate america and stuff like that.
I like it, was stunned when I first heard it and didn’t get it but it’s different and a welcome change. Now I really like it. It’s not a sing along and will piss the old frats boys out of the equation which I like. I like that they did something so new. It’s ok if you don’t like it, it’s their opinion but it’s stuck in my head and I think people’s opinions will change by next week. I’m not sure how they pull this off live, especially the last minute or so of the song. They released this single on purpose, they know what they are doing. For a radio station to play 30 seconds and then stop it is ridiculous and shows that their dj is a dipshit.
I like it, was stunned when I first heard it and didn’t get it but it’s different and a welcome change. Now I really like it. It’s not a sing along and will piss the old frats boys out of the equation which I like. I like that they did something so new. It’s ok if you don’t like it, it’s their opinion but it’s stuck in my head and I think people’s opinions will change by next week. I’m not sure how they pull this off live, especially the last minute or so of the song. They released this single on purpose, they know what they are doing. For a radio station to play 30 seconds and then stop it is ridiculous and shows that their dj is a dipshit.
Exactly. And those saying they are trying to hard to be current or gain new fans I don’t think they give a fuck at all. To me it is them exploring their sound and pushing their experimentation. I can pretty pretty confidently say I don’t think these guys give a rats ass about radio play or staying “trendy”. To me it sounds like they wanted to really dive into their creativity and do something totally new and different.
Well, I love it. It is fresh and experimental (for them). I do particularly like when artists push their traditional formulas, and I loved No Code immediately upon release. I am glad to read that the majority is into it. I can't wait to hear the rest of the album!
Edit: the vocal layering at the end is awesome! There must be at least like 10 tracks of vocals there.
Post edited by gettingright on
"...what a different life had i not found this love with you..."
I think we all want to like Pearl Jam and have given the song a chance. I played it for someone at work who is not a fan and they laughed when Ed started singing. It sounds forced. I like it because I gave it a chance, but am curious how the non-fans will take it. I'll probably have a bunch of coworkers listen and see what they say.
All the non-fans who can't stand or like to parody Vedder's vocal delivery are gonna have a great time trashing this song and probably the entire album. Not that I really care what they think.
When I say non-fans, I mean people who may not even know a PJ song. They could be 23 years old and listening to Ariana Grande. I'm not talking about 40 year olds who still think Nirvana is the best ever and hate Eddie.
My first response was "this must be a bad parody" but then got to the chorus and gave it a for more listens. Love it.
For what its worth, I'm not much older than that and all my friends both know and like Ariana Grande and could tell you the names of at least 5 Pearl Jam songs despite the fact that I have never even bothered to share with all but one or two of them. They're not as elusive to young folks as you might expect.
This is a good song, it's fresh, it's got a great groove and it's way more interesting than anything on BS or LB. There's some great lyrics here. I love the music, and Ed's vocals serve the song. These guys are 30 years into their career and for them to still take chances like this....is really cool.
Love it and love that it is nothing like I would have expected. I realize that this may fall flat with some people, but I appreciate them taking a chance like this.
it’s difficult for me to be constructive when forming any opinions about anything this band does because I love them so much. The song is different from anything they have done and I do feel a part of me was craving that - I don’t feel this is a be careful what you wish for situation. It immediately reminded me of Peter Gabriel’s “Digging In The Dirt” a song I’ve always liked. Now that I’ve seen the video the similarities and feel are more striking to me.
Listened again this morning, and I still like it. The video is perfect along with it. And while I heard a lot of other influences yesterday, today I heard more PJ out of it. To me, it has a really nice flow from beginning to end, and all the unexpected turns and the complexity make me want to listen another time and another time and another time... None of this I felt particularly with any song from the last two albums. On top of that, they all seem to be excited about it too.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
Comments
Ed Solo: 17-Louisville
I was thinking a little more this look
but I like how you think
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I don't have older data at my fingertips, but they also have not sold out shows in the South and Midwest in recent years, and they have not sold out all shows on some multiple-night stands.
“Falling down, not staying down
Could’ve held me up, brother, tear me down
Drown in the river”
I love this part of the song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJwuP5wPCLQ
Jury is still out for me though. Need a bunch more listens.
2011 - PJ 20 East Troy, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2013 - Wrigley ~~~ 2014 - Moline ~~~ 2016 - Wrigley, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2018 - Wrigley, Night 1 & 2 ~~~ 2022 - STL~~~ 2023 - Chicago, Night 1 & 2
When I say non-fans, I mean people who may not even know a PJ song. They could be 23 years old and listening to Ariana Grande. I'm not talking about 40 year olds who still think Nirvana is the best ever and hate Eddie.
My first response was "this must be a bad parody" but then got to the chorus and gave it a for more listens. Love it.
www.headstonesband.com
Gotta see how this matures …
Edit: the vocal layering at the end is awesome! There must be at least like 10 tracks of vocals there.
There's some great lyrics here. I love the music, and Ed's vocals serve the song. These guys are 30 years into their career and for them to still take chances like this....is really cool.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Fenway Park: 9/2/2018
Fenway Park: 9/4/2018
http://www.vhnd.com/2009/05/20/eddie-van-halens-extended-1984-keyboard-solo/
https://youtu.be/X0C3DHp36zc
2. Barrie, Ontario 08-22-1998 (MOLSON PARK)
3. Toronto, Ontario 10-05-2000 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
4. Toronto, Ontario 06-28-2003 (MOLSON AMPHITHEATRE)
5. Boston, Massachusetts 09-28-2004 FLEET CENTER (NOW TD GARDEN) VFC TOUR
6. Boston, Massachusetts 09-28-2004 FLEET CENTER (NOW TD GARDEN) VFC TOUR
7. Hamilton, Ontario 09-13-2005 (COPPS COLISEUM)
8. Toronto, Ontario 09-19-2005 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
9. St. Johns, Newfoundland 09-24-2005 (MILE ONE)
10. St. Johns, Newfoundland 09-25-2005 (MILE ONE)
11. Toronto, Ontario 05-09-2006 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
12. Toronto, Ontario 05-09-2006 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
13. Sydney, Australia 11-07-2006 (ACER ARENA)
14. Sydney, Australia 11-08-2006 (ACER ARENA)
15. Melbourne, Australia 11-13-2006 (ROD LAVER ARENA)
16. Melbourne, Australia 11-14-2006 (ROD LAVER ARENA)
17. Adelaide, Australia 11-21-2006 (ADELAIDE ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE)
18. Adelaide, Australia 11-22-2006 (ADELAIDE ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE)
19. Perth, Australia 11-25-2006 (SUBIACO OVAL)
20. New York, New York 06-24-2008 (MADISON SQUARE GARDEN)
21. New York, New York 06-25-2008 (MADISON SQUARE GARDEN)
22. Toronto, Ontario 08-21-2009 (MOLSON AMPITHEATRE)
23. Buffalo, New York 05-10-2010 (HSBC ARENA)
24. Toronto, Ontario 09-11-2011 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
25. Toronto, Ontario 09-12-2011 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
26. Hamilton, Ontario 09-15-2011 (COPPS COLISEUM)
27. London, Ontario 07-16-2013 (BUDWEISER GARDENS)
28. Buffalo, New York 10-12-2013 (FIRST NIAGARA CENTER) FORMERLY HSBC ARENA
29. Detroit, Michigan 10-16-2014 (JOE LOUIS ARENA)
30. Ottawa, Ontario 5-8-2016 (CANADIAN TIRE CENTRE)
31. Toronto, Ontario 5-10-2016 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
32. Toronto, Ontario 5-12-2016 (AIR CANADA CENTRE)
If it actually sounded like FS I'd be stoked.