I cant get over how out there this is for these guys and I fucking love it. Just wow. Over time it wont be a top 20 PJ song or anything but it's fun and I hope the whole album is this exciting. I can live without another cdm or mym.
In the "cool endings to Pearl Jam" songs category?
Ah so you like that minute long end of the song? It's the part I actually am not in love with. And it comes as a total surprise to me that we would have differing opinions on it since we seem to agree about everything else!
I think it ends stronger than it starts. That synth that Jeff throws on in the beginning feels a bit out of place and "cheap". But what do I know. I can't sing in tune to save my life.
But I am very curious to hear the edited down radio version (because this can't be it with it clocking in on over 4 minutes?). If it being tighter will make it work even better. Maybe.
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So a band that has a massive range of musical influences, looking to be true artists for themselves(not us), took 7 years to make a new record, endured a ton of REAL LIFE shit, got inducted into the hall of fame(which comes with its own mind fuck), lost CC, and then puts out a new song which might actually reflect ALL OF THAT, well then hell, I think they may have accomplished something. We might not all like the song, but how can anyone deny that the band feels reinvigorated? Isn't that what we want? Not victory lap tour after victory lap tour. C'mon man. We know a nostalgia band is for failed artists. And DotC also speaks to what the band has always said. Make the song for the record and then LIVE it can become something more! One step at a time. One. Step. At. A. Time.
WEBN in Cincinnati premiered the song this morning - stopped the song about 30 seconds in and finished it off w a mix of Cannonball and Talking Heads.
Next song they played, Yellowledbetter.
Yikes.
that's what they call a sick burn
First time I'd ever heard a city's major rock radio station stop a premiere song 30 seconds in (while talking through the first part ripping it up). Take a phone call from a listener destroying the song. Then play Yellowledbetter right after.
That's brutal - especially in drive time after all this PR work the PJ team did. That's rough.
This song is going to get absolutely destroyed by critics and casual fans. Almost guaranteed. Just because its so different for this band and they're kind of on the outs with the aforementioned crowds anyways. Saying this as someone who likes the song.
When U2 did Achtung Baby it was a radical departure but was universally accepted because the songs were strong.
Ditto Nirvana unplugged.
PJ could easily release a synth pop album if the songs are killer. This is filler.
I can see why CDM was scrapped from inclusion on this record (if this song is indicative of the album sound).
I would have also loved an angry CDM record. If they did scrap things, maybe they can send them to me since I seem like one of the only ones that liked it.
I can see why CDM was scrapped from inclusion on this record (if this song is indicative of the album sound).
I would have also loved an angry CDM record. If they did scrap things, maybe they can send them to me since I seem like one of the only ones that liked it.
I dig CDM. the chorus is a bit weak, but I appreciated the passion. I thought that's where this record was likely going to go. But I suppose not. anything can happen when you have 2 years between single releases. LOL
Shocked folks are saying this song takes too long to end. I feel like it ends much stronger than it starts. Doesn't really "hook" me til the 3 or 4 minute mark.
I'm more convinced than ever that when many people say they want Pearl Jam to be experimental, these people really mean they just want Pearl Jam to remake No Code.
Its fun sitting back watching Pearl Jam fans dealing with this band's OK Computer ----> Kid A moment (based off of this single). And bravo to the band for stretching out and trying something like this after almost 30 years.
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Its fun sitting back watching Pearl Jam fans dealing with this band's OK Computer ----> Kid A moment (based off of this single). And bravo to the band for stretching out and trying something like this after almost 30 years.
That's a little unfair. Radiohead is sui generis, and Pearl Jam has tried to stretch its boundaries going back as far as "W.M.A.," to the loopy songs that litter "Vitalogy," to "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" and so on.
3 listens. I like it. Music bridge between different genres? Feels much deeper with a lot more substance compared to some of the other incredible artists mentioned. Way to early to know, but thankful and happy. ✌👏👍
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Listened for the second time and it sounds much better. Bass line reminds me of Breeders-Cannonball This song will definitely grow on me. I like the band taking chances and not just mailing it in. Hoping the entire album is a sort that flows from one song to the next.
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Its fun sitting back watching Pearl Jam fans dealing with this band's OK Computer ----> Kid A moment (based off of this single). And bravo to the band for stretching out and trying something like this after almost 30 years.
That's a little unfair. Radiohead is sui generis, and Pearl Jam has tried to stretch its boundaries going back as far as "W.M.A.," to the loopy songs that litter "Vitalogy," to "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" and so on.
Exactly. I remember when No Code came out my freshman year of college and some kid in my history class told me Pearl Jam "sucks now" when he saw that I had my "Freak" t-shirt from 94' on. I also remember our high school 'newspaper' did a piece on Vitalogy calling it "not Pearl Jam".
WOW, I really like this new fresh style, its nice to see they did something different than they usually do! Also, both my wife and kids asked who is that? I really like it! So not only does it give the current fans something, but it opens the door for the new generation of fans. I can also see this single played on many different types of radio stations, let's see where this goes my PJ friends.
If you think about it; legend bands like the Beatles and Pink Floyd put out albums that experimented with new stuff all the time. Break the mold man! On Pearl Jam radio Stone talks about how the song was born and how each member eased into it, really interesting and fun to hear. Thank you Pearl Jam! New music is just what we needed.
I am digging it. way different but i'd rather have this, at this time, than a regular formula rocker like most of Backspacer and Lightning Bolt. Not sure how it will translate live but it's weird and strange and i can groove to it.
and the beginning beat reminds me of the song 'cannonball' from like the early to mid 90s maybe?
The best way I can put it is, whenever I hear a new song from an artist, even a band I may not be into, like Coldplay for example, I hear something where I think “I wish PJ would play something that cool” or “try something that different” (I’m thinking that new Arabesque?song). Something different. Especially when I hear bands I do like always pushing their sound: Beck, MMJ, Radiohead, Arcade Fire. With PJ last two albums, and especially the song Lightening Bolt, we got dad rock. I feared we’d get safe Springsteen (sorry don’t mean to slight the man, I do enjoy some of his music) for the rest of their career. Whether you like the song or not this is bold, different, exciting. And, it still makes sense when thinking of their influences. We’ve got a ton of The Who, nice to hear the Talking Heads/Bowie influence
I love it. I'm glad it's "different". Sure, it sounds to me like some other bands, but still sounds like PJ to me. It makes me excited for the rest of the album!
I'm loving this just on one listen and I'm sure I will enjoy even more during further listens. The song and the recording are solid. Talking Heads influence is obvious and appreciated. I hope the whole album veers this way, which will undoubtedly tick some people off, which is a good thing.
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But I am very curious to hear the edited down radio version (because this can't be it with it clocking in on over 4 minutes?). If it being tighter will make it work even better. Maybe.
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Ditto Nirvana unplugged.
PJ could easily release a synth pop album if the songs are killer. This is filler.
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'00 - Jones Beach (x2)
'03 - Nassau Coliseum/Tweeter Center/ MSG (x2)
'04 - Reading, PA
'05 - Wachovia Center
'06 - Irving Plaza; Continental Airlines Arena (x2)
'08 - MSG (x2); Beacon Theater
'09 - Philly Spectrum (x2)
'10 - XL Center; Prudential Center; MSG (x2)
'11 - Alpine Valley (x2)
'12 - Made In America
'13 - Wrigley Field; DCU Center; Barclay Center (x2); Wells Fargo Center; XL Center
'15 - Ed Sullivan Theater
'16 - MSG (x2)
'17 - Barclay Center (R&RHOF)
'18 - Fenway Park
'22 - MSG
I like it. Music bridge between different genres? Feels much deeper with a lot more substance compared to some of the other incredible artists mentioned. Way to early to know, but thankful and happy. ✌👏👍
This song will definitely grow on me. I like the band taking chances and not just mailing it in. Hoping the entire album is a sort that flows from one song to the next.
www.UNOS.org
Donate Organs and Save a Life
If you think about it; legend bands like the Beatles and Pink Floyd put out albums that experimented with new stuff all the time. Break the mold man! On Pearl Jam radio Stone talks about how the song was born and how each member eased into it, really interesting and fun to hear. Thank you Pearl Jam! New music is just what we needed.
and the beginning beat reminds me of the song 'cannonball' from like the early to mid 90s maybe?
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