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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    edited January 2020
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Literally within the last few minutes. 
    But, in fairness, only one person is saying it and no one is taking him seriously....
    Post edited by ecdanc on
  • SpinTheLastExit
    SpinTheLastExit Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 460
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Where have you been?
    2012 – Manchester II
    2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2016 – Wrigley I & II
    2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
    2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
    2019 – Dublin [EV]
    2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
    2023 – Chicago I & II
    2024 – Dublin, Manchester, Wrigley I & II, NYC I & II, Melbourne I & II, Sydney I & II
  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Correct. Seniority doesn't matter, nor should it for the lottery. However, with 99% odds, you should receive tickets. I checked odds just before pre sale ended and all 99% except for NY and Baltimore
  • SpinTheLastExit
    SpinTheLastExit Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 460
    edited January 2020
    JR86440 said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Correct. Seniority doesn't matter, nor should it for the lottery. However, with 99% odds, you should receive tickets. I checked odds just before pre sale ended and all 99% except for NY and Baltimore
    At the risk of being pedantic, that 1% are not going to get tickets.
    2012 – Manchester II
    2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2016 – Wrigley I & II
    2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
    2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
    2019 – Dublin [EV]
    2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
    2023 – Chicago I & II
    2024 – Dublin, Manchester, Wrigley I & II, NYC I & II, Melbourne I & II, Sydney I & II
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,540
    How can I go back and check if my last name is on the TM account?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    How can I go back and check if my last name is on the TM account?
    You log in to your Ticketmaster account then view your profile under "my account"
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    How can I go back and check if my last name is on the TM account?
    Log into ticketmaster.com and then go to My Account. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    Poncier said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Gonzo1977 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Looks like this is what we get for our $20 or $40

    So... yeah the priority ticketing is funny.  Also how'd you like that latest DEEP Magazine ? when's the last time one of those went out? Also...Sure loving those exclusive merch  which for some reason seems to be available to AMAZON members for a better price. Yeah, that annual T-shirt sure got me out of a few rough patches.  Look - I like all of the above...but you can't tell me some of that shit isn't a bit misleading and that any of that is truly worth the $40.00 membership....or that any of that compares to what you used to get with the 10 Club for $10-15.00 back in the day.  
    A T-Shirt and a bootleg.   Yeah, that could be worth 40 bucks.  Also you have access to 10C radio.   What the cost equivalent of SiriusXM?  (Keeping aside the shot at tickets here)
    Don't forget the right to post on this forum....which today has been priceless.
    Goddamn right about that! Tour time makes this whole place just go to shit, but does provided some much appreciated laughs.
  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    JR86440 said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Correct. Seniority doesn't matter, nor should it for the lottery. However, with 99% odds, you should receive tickets. I checked odds just before pre sale ended and all 99% except for NY and Baltimore
    At the risk of being pedantic, that 1% are not going to get tickets.
    99% is 100%. They just can't put that there for obvious reasons
  • UtahBolt
    UtahBolt Posts: 196
    If anyone is still keeping track and/or cares, I updated my last name this morning and landed both LA shows.  Seems like this has been debunked but just in case anyone is still worried about that drama from this morning.
  • faithful2you
    faithful2you Madison, WI Posts: 779
    317 new posts on this thread since last time I checked the forum.   :)   After reading through some of these posts for the lottery.....I completely understand the people I talk to at pre-shows that roll their eyes if anyone asks if they go to the message boards.   This shit is ridiculous.  

    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
  • pulling69
    pulling69 KBTL Posts: 1,005
    tdawe said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lessons learned from the new system:

    1. Go back to all seats
    2. Ditch the odds
    3. Close the forums until all tickets have been distributed and seat locations revealed

    It's the only way this will work. We've been given choice and information and it just short circuits everyone. 
    Are you not entertained?
    Oh this thread is great entertainment....Loads of people that can't read good, poorly filled out profiles, procedural errors, and piles and piles of butthurt. I for one hope this goes on through Sunday.



    "Populated with every reject and cutthroat from Bombay to Calcutta. It's worse than Detroit."
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Where have you been?
    I missed the first offender.....

    Yes,  you and I have no issues.  :)  I had responded to the wrong post at one point.  
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    edited January 2020
    317 new posts on this thread since last time I checked the forum.   :)   After reading through some of these posts for the lottery.....I completely understand the people I talk to at pre-shows that roll their eyes if anyone asks if they go to the message boards.   This shit is ridiculous.  

    I'm worried that when I lose Baltimore on Sunday I will lose my mind as well. If you see me on here ranting about seniority and how I deserved to win, please send help.
    Post edited by JimmyV on
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • SpinTheLastExit
    SpinTheLastExit Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 460
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    I'm sick of seeing the word "seniority".
    Why is that? Explain.
    I actually have to explain that?
    Yes, because it makes no sense.  That or you don't have any, which then I could see it would be irritating.
    It also makes no sense that we have to get personal about it, so quit the arrogance.

    Seniority is stupid because it's fundamentally irrelevant. People saying "I have this number" and boasting some sort of entitlement over other fans is pathetic. I pay the same amount of money as you, so we both should have equal opportunity in getting tickets.

    So THERE, that's why I hate the constant spitting of "seniority".
    I have seniority over you.   Over the years, I have paid way more than you.    But regardless, we still have the same shot at tickets.   Neat, huh?
    This isn't a pension pot.
    And we both have the same shot at tickets.  What is the problem here?
    None. I just want people to stop harping on about "seniority", that's all.
    Who is harping on about it, and why does that matter? 

    The only time seniority comes into play, is IF you get tickets and IF you get reserved seats.   Then the tickets are distributed by senority first.   There really isnt too much to brag about, otherwise.  
    Exactly, you're proving my point. I'm just saying people keep talking about how long they've been in the fan club and essentially saying they should get preferential treatment. Not just here, but people quoting their fan club numbers. Who cares?
    Are there seriously people who are saying "I have seniority, I should have better access to tickets than you!"


    Where have you been?
    I missed the first offender.....

    Yes,  you and I have no issues.  :)  I had responded to the wrong post at one point.  
    We're good! Hope you've been lucky in the draw.
    2012 – Manchester II
    2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2016 – Wrigley I & II
    2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
    2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
    2019 – Dublin [EV]
    2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
    2023 – Chicago I & II
    2024 – Dublin, Manchester, Wrigley I & II, NYC I & II, Melbourne I & II, Sydney I & II
  • What'd I miss?
    That I no longer give a fuck
    Who is wrong and who’s right
  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    What'd I miss?
    Lost the money pit.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    JimmyV said:
    317 new posts on this thread since last time I checked the forum.   :)   After reading through some of these posts for the lottery.....I completely understand the people I talk to at pre-shows that roll their eyes if anyone asks if they go to the message boards.   This shit is ridiculous.  

    I'm worried that when I lose Baltimore on Sunday I will lose my mind as well. 
    A wise man once said "you can't lose what you've already lost". =)
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
     All I'm saying...Never had an issue getting tickets until THIS tour.
    Maybe I've been lucky for 25 years...I don't fucking know.

    Regardless, still a bit strange to get shut out of 1 Canadian show when others are getting confirmed for all 4 Canadian shows.

    Anyways, looking forward to the new album.
    Enjoy your shows..I'm sure I'll eventually get my tickets through Ticketmaster and all will be good.

    If not, I'll catch them on the next album tour ...7 years from now... when a whole new ticketing system is in place.