2020 Fall North American rumour thread

Zod

RatherStarved said:

on2legs said:

Matts3221 said:

I just think at this point they should scrape the North American Dates , refund everyone and just put together another tour when they can. I don't think 2021 is going to have concerts. I really hope I am wrong but I just don't see it happening.  At least in the US.

They gave anyone who needed their money back an opportunity to get a refund.  The rest of us would like to hold our tickets until the dust settles. Even if it’s in 2022. 

I agree, however, most people who held tickets probably expected the shows to be in 2021.  That could still happen, but if the shows are delayed beyond 2021, I would hope another refund window would be offered.

I don’t think public health officials will sign off on capacity indoor shows until 75% of people are vaccinated, unless the treatment drugs become highly effective and available, which could happen first.  All we can do is wait and see.  Sooooo frustrating!

The other thing that could happen to start up events sooner, is that you would need to show some kind of proof of vaccination to fly, go to public gatherings etc... might be a cost of doing business.

RatherStarved

There’s a lot of guesswork in all this.  Just for one example, Elton John is currently scheduled to restart on 01 Sep 21.  That seems like it might work, if the vaccines are approved soon.

BV84003

RatherStarved said:

There’s a lot of guesswork in all this.  Just for one example, Elton John is currently scheduled to restart on 01 Sep 21.  That seems like it might work, if the vaccines are approved soon.

That's also Europe, though. His US tour resumes January 2022, which is probably still optimistic.

HughFreakingDillon

i have two shows, one in december and one in january, that are both reschedules, but haven't been postponed/cancelled again. i really don't know what they're waiting for. those shows are NOT happening. 

JimmyV

"Socially-distanced" indoor shows announced last week to be played in February of 2021?

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/oteil-burbridge-trio-colorado-announcement/

RatherStarved

BV84003 said:

RatherStarved said:

There’s a lot of guesswork in all this.  Just for one example, Elton John is currently scheduled to restart on 01 Sep 21.  That seems like it might work, if the vaccines are approved soon.

That's also Europe, though. His US tour resumes January 2022, which is probably still optimistic.

I don’t think US vs EU makes a difference.  One isn’t going to have the vaccine materially before the other.  FWIW in my opinion January 2022 is somewhere between realistic and pessimistic.  I don’t think it’s optimistic.  Amsterdam 6/16/21:  that’s optimistic! 

Weston1283

Looking at things from a realistic, logistical and completely non political standpoint, Spring is definitely out at this point.  Will be a miracle if Summer EU Tour happens.  

JojoRice

Still holding out hope for Fall 21' US dates

AmishGuy91

One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  

ryph raph

AmishGuy91 said:

One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  

Or they may just call it quits.

And only do the one off charity performances every few years.

RatherStarved

AmishGuy91 said:

One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  

I see it differently.  They applied reason and logic to determine they should cancel, rather than waiting for bureaucrats.  Barring any new information, reason and logic indicate the vaccine should have things well under control by the summer.  It is completely reasonable for them to book fall dates.  Two festivals are already on the books, not to mention an entire European tour.  

Zod

ryph raph said:

AmishGuy91 said:

One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  

Or they may just call it quits.

And only do the one off charity performances every few years.

That went dark fast :(

I always kind of felt like PJ would keep going until they couldn't.   They've always been pretty good at figuring out the balance that lets them continue (shorter small tours etc..).   I bet the unwanted time off will make them jones more to play live.   Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

I would of said PJ wouldn't be the kind of band to schedule in dates, that they would have to bump yet a 2nd time, but next summers Euro tour seems questionable.   I would hope they tour in 2022.

I also expect a lot of bands will be jonesing to do live shows when the pandemic ends.  Either because they haven't played in years, they need the income, or they want to make sure their crew gets paid.    I feel like the competition for venues and fan's ticket money will be high that first year (or two) after the pandemic ends.

on2legs

I’m optimistic we’ll see some shows next fall.  Especially with vaccines rolling out soon.  Not a given but I feel like we’re moving in the right direction.  

Groda03

I think Ohana happens at the end of September.  Outdoors, smaller venue, 10 months from now.  I am really hopeful for this.  

tschav

Groda03 said:

I think Ohana happens at the end of September.  Outdoors, smaller venue, 10 months from now.  I am really hopeful for this.  

Been feeling the same - don't expect much before then, at least for the US. At this rate, I'd almost prefer to see Ohana and others pause ticket sales so that if they need to do it with reduced crowds they have it set in place (and open tickets up if things are looking more positive in the spring/summer). Get some more sponsors to offset the lower ticket sales if needed.

ComeToTX

Agree.  I think Ohana is the next PJ show and I'm glad I have tickets.  I'd love for the rollout to go quickly and get to use my Budapest tix but I'm not betting on it.

mcgruff10

I'm optimistic for next year.  Last week I got charged for the sea, hear, now festival.

HughFreakingDillon

i'd love to do ohana. ed and the band on the beach in one weekend. fugggg. 

DEGBTI

I also see Ohana as the first gig, and I'm pretty fricken happy I have tickets!

Weston1283

Spring 2021 is completely out.  I think there is still some degree of hope for Europe Summer 2021 depending on how this winter goes and how the vaccines are distributed.  The logistics of the EU tour are already planned, dates announced, tickets sold, etc, which saves a huge step on the bands end.  I bet they haven't even begun to try and re plan the canceled US Spring 2020 dates (rightfully so).  I would look for the canceled US shows to be coordinated next fall around Ohana and Sea.Hear.Now.