The Democratic Presidential Debates

brianlux

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

OnWis97 said:

Dems continue to eat each other.  

Can we just give trump his 4 more years and move on?

That does seem to be what the Dems are aiming for.    From what I've heard so far, I'm glad my TV reception was such that I couldn't watch it.  I probably wold have cringed through the whole thing.   It's depressing as hell to watch this shit come down.

the moderators bear responsibility in this situation.  Asking bad questions.. "Why do you think you're qualified to be commander in chief?" Yawn.  Did my 11 year old write that?  The NPR debate was good because they asked better questions.  

Wow- that's pretty sad!

brianlux

OnWis97 said:

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

OnWis97 said:

Dems continue to eat each other.  

Can we just give trump his 4 more years and move on?

That does seem to be what the Dems are aiming for.    From what I've heard so far, I'm glad my TV reception was such that I couldn't watch it.  I probably wold have cringed through the whole thing.   It's depressing as hell to watch this shit come down.

I don't think it is, but geez...maybe I need to tone down my scrolling through Twitter, but given how thin the margin can be in swing states, I feel like angry supporters of primary losers are going to stay home (except for those that vote Trump out of spite). The question is, can the party unite behind the eventual winner like it did for the most part (minus a few Hillary supporters) behind Obama?  I envision high-fives among Bernie supports in 2016 when Trump won...and I'm concerned they'll be doing it again this fall.

Am I reading this right?  Are you saying you think Bernie supporters were glad Trump won?  I doubt it!

Yes, I hope the party unites under one dem and show up to vote.  Anyone who stays home on election day should____________. (Fill in the blank!)

dankind

brianlux said:

OnWis97 said:

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

OnWis97 said:

Dems continue to eat each other.  

Can we just give trump his 4 more years and move on?

That does seem to be what the Dems are aiming for.    From what I've heard so far, I'm glad my TV reception was such that I couldn't watch it.  I probably wold have cringed through the whole thing.   It's depressing as hell to watch this shit come down.

I don't think it is, but geez...maybe I need to tone down my scrolling through Twitter, but given how thin the margin can be in swing states, I feel like angry supporters of primary losers are going to stay home (except for those that vote Trump out of spite). The question is, can the party unite behind the eventual winner like it did for the most part (minus a few Hillary supporters) behind Obama?  I envision high-fives among Bernie supports in 2016 when Trump won...and I'm concerned they'll be doing it again this fall.

Am I reading this right?  Are you saying you think Bernie supporters were glad Trump won?  I doubt it!

Yes, I hope the party unites under one dem and show up to vote.  Anyone who stays home on election day should____________. (Fill in the blank!)

Sleep well?

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

And for the record, Biden won his senate seat from a Republican and was a huge underdog, with almost no money.  Good for Joe to not be petty enough to contradict a silly point.  

Then he brought the death penalty back like it was a The Eagles reunion like the true mensch he is. Good for him he didn't bring that up to lure some Trump voters over.

(Sanders disputing the 30 years thing was a bit cringey. But it seems like he didn't pick up on her saying "30 years" so whatevz. He should have just said "when did I lose an election?" and bring the pressure back on her to have her facts straight) 

Yeah good point.  Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act.  But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  
Warren's artificial box of 30 years was stupid, arbitrary and designed to drop a zinger.  Someone should have said "yeah, but Liz, you're the only one here that was a Republican in the last 30 years".  

Man that would have been such a great comeback. 

mickeyrat

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

And for the record, Biden won his senate seat from a Republican and was a huge underdog, with almost no money.  Good for Joe to not be petty enough to contradict a silly point.  

Then he brought the death penalty back like it was a The Eagles reunion like the true mensch he is. Good for him he didn't bring that up to lure some Trump voters over.

(Sanders disputing the 30 years thing was a bit cringey. But it seems like he didn't pick up on her saying "30 years" so whatevz. He should have just said "when did I lose an election?" and bring the pressure back on her to have her facts straight) 

Yeah good point.  Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act.  But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  
Warren's artificial box of 30 years was stupid, arbitrary and designed to drop a zinger.  Someone should have said "yeah, but Liz, you're the only one here that was a Republican in the last 30 years".  

Man that would have been such a great comeback. 

to which she could have responded, well bernie, you're only a Democrat when running for president.....

Ledbetterman10

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

And for the record, Biden won his senate seat from a Republican and was a huge underdog, with almost no money.  Good for Joe to not be petty enough to contradict a silly point.  

Then he brought the death penalty back like it was a The Eagles reunion like the true mensch he is. Good for him he didn't bring that up to lure some Trump voters over.

(Sanders disputing the 30 years thing was a bit cringey. But it seems like he didn't pick up on her saying "30 years" so whatevz. He should have just said "when did I lose an election?" and bring the pressure back on her to have her facts straight) 

Yeah good point.  Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act.  But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  
Warren's artificial box of 30 years was stupid, arbitrary and designed to drop a zinger.  Someone should have said "yeah, but Liz, you're the only one here that was a Republican in the last 30 years".  

Man that would have been such a great comeback. 

to which she could have responded, well bernie, you're only a Democrat when running for president.....

And that would have been a good response if Bernie had called her out. I don't know what she'd say to the rest of them though. 

mrussel1

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

haha. snl is going to have a field day with this one. 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

haha. snl is going to have a field day with this one. 

It seems like Bernie is on the defensive. 

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

Sanders did call her a liar. But since he apparently doesn’t respect women it’s not a surprise. Dude has the same populist message as trump just in the far left side. Bernie wasn’t to be a dictator just as bad as trump. I hope warren kicks his ass down a set of stairs 

pjl44

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

haha. snl is going to have a field day with this one. 

It seems like Bernie is on the defensive. 

If he's telling the truth, this does not help his case

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

Sanders did call her a liar. But since he apparently doesn’t respect women it’s not a surprise. Dude has the same populist message as trump just in the far left side. Bernie wasn’t to be a dictator just as bad as trump. I hope warren kicks his ass down a set of stairs 

Just because Trump is a big (yuge) embarrassing piece of shit stain on your side, doesn't mean you have to reach all you can to fabricate an equivalence on the less shitty side.

Spiritual_Chaos

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

And for the record, Biden won his senate seat from a Republican and was a huge underdog, with almost no money.  Good for Joe to not be petty enough to contradict a silly point.  

Then he brought the death penalty back like it was a The Eagles reunion like the true mensch he is. Good for him he didn't bring that up to lure some Trump voters over.

(Sanders disputing the 30 years thing was a bit cringey. But it seems like he didn't pick up on her saying "30 years" so whatevz. He should have just said "when did I lose an election?" and bring the pressure back on her to have her facts straight) 

It was petty. Not every Sanders flaw needs to be sugar-coated, just like not every non-Sanders flaw needs to be embellished. 

I don't think "petty" is the right word to use here. But I do agree with the rest.

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

 

Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act. But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  

Funny you choose to use the word "compromises" regarding it.



https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-touted-crime-bill-1992-death-penalty-jaywalking-senate-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

brianlux

dankind said:

brianlux said:

OnWis97 said:

brianlux said:

Lerxst1992 said:

OnWis97 said:

Dems continue to eat each other.  

Can we just give trump his 4 more years and move on?

That does seem to be what the Dems are aiming for.    From what I've heard so far, I'm glad my TV reception was such that I couldn't watch it.  I probably wold have cringed through the whole thing.   It's depressing as hell to watch this shit come down.

I don't think it is, but geez...maybe I need to tone down my scrolling through Twitter, but given how thin the margin can be in swing states, I feel like angry supporters of primary losers are going to stay home (except for those that vote Trump out of spite). The question is, can the party unite behind the eventual winner like it did for the most part (minus a few Hillary supporters) behind Obama?  I envision high-fives among Bernie supports in 2016 when Trump won...and I'm concerned they'll be doing it again this fall.

Am I reading this right?  Are you saying you think Bernie supporters were glad Trump won?  I doubt it!

Yes, I hope the party unites under one dem and show up to vote.  Anyone who stays home on election day should____________. (Fill in the blank!)

Sleep well?

Once in a bluuuuuuuuue moon.

Hi!

Any chance we can get Jordan as the nominee? Barkley?

Hi!

I’m giving serious consideration to Bloomberg. I’m hoping he will be in next debate, I haven’t seen the qualifications yet. 

OnWis97

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Holy crap... this is getting worse not better.  CNN has the audio.   

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

Sanders did call her a liar. But since he apparently doesn’t respect women it’s not a surprise. Dude has the same populist message as trump just in the far left side. Bernie wasn’t to be a dictator just as bad as trump. I hope warren kicks his ass down a set of stairs 

I don’t think he wants to be a dictator.  I think an understanding and appreciation for what the country is built on (ie, not for the president to be a dictator) is a key difference.  That said, there is some Trump in him...some “us against the world” crap.  Populist?  Yeah; he’s getting there.

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

 

Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act. But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  

Funny you choose to use the word "compromises" regarding it.



https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-touted-crime-bill-1992-death-penalty-jaywalking-senate-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

You don't understand the point of the speech nor the rampant criminality of the times.  The speech was designed to peel off some conservative Republicans that didn't believe the bill was tough enough.  Clearly it was hyperbole and sarcasm.  We've already talked about the racist CBC and African-American community leaders that fully supported this bill.  In fact, we've had this discussion at length months ago, when the 'progressives' were taking their shot at Biden.  That failed.

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

 

Funny that you failed to mention the violence against women act, hate crimes, sex crimes and other liberal priorities that were in the same act. But I guess if you were a senator you would have been able to pass such a bill without any compromises, so good for you.  

Funny you choose to use the word "compromises" regarding it.



https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-touted-crime-bill-1992-death-penalty-jaywalking-senate-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

You don't understand the point of the speech nor the rampant criminality of the times.  The speech was designed to peel off some conservative Republicans that didn't believe the bill was tough enough.  Clearly it was hyperbole and sarcasm.  We've already talked about the racist CBC and African-American community leaders that fully supported this bill.  In fact, we've had this discussion at length months ago, when the 'progressives' were taking their shot at Biden.  That failed.

I don't know. I've never voted for and rooted for a Death Penalty-touter. Didn't happen when I voted in 2018. Pretty sure I won't be a "Death-Penalty-touter"-touter in 2022 either.