Not one county in FL, just like Michigan. He even lost counties he won in 16, when he lost at about the same clip. There really is no argument for Bernie as the message isn't resonating. I respect the guy, for what he is. But it's time to consolidate the party and move towards November. There's no argument for his candidacy.
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Not one county in FL, just like Michigan. He even lost counties he won in 16, when he lost at about the same clip. There really is no argument for Bernie as the message isn't resonating. I respect the guy, for what he is. But it's time to consolidate the party and move towards November. There's no argument for his candidacy.
Yeah this was the end, but it was a good run going back to 2015. I enjoyed his “revolution” even if I didn’t agree with it all. Endorse Biden, get him to commit to some of your more reasonable policies, and campaign for him.
yes it is. he went from winning no counties in florida to barely winning just one in illinois to barely winning 2 in arizona..... bernie is on the move......
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So happy that people are rejecting Bernie. Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.
I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses. We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain. On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella. I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Sad to see Bernie doing so poorly. Personally, I'm fine with anybody over Trump, but Bernie is the only candidate that is willing to fix the healthcare disaster we have in this country.
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democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
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This is where I'd normally say something like "This is tantamount to the Detroit Tigers assessing their World Series chances," but it's uncertain that any team will have a chance at the World Series this year.
"in the coming weeks"... I guess because the next primary is, at best, three weeks away. So he has time to do some fundraising or something? I don't know what he expects to change other than sickness befalling Joe. If I were the Biden campaign I would not participate in the next debate and completely rotate my messaging to the general election. Speak to Bernie's supporters, but ignore Bernie. Biden has some serious organizational catch up to do against Trump. No time to lose.
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
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democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
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democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election.
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election.
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election.
I think it's a bit of both: 1. Bernie has not made inroads with the black community or women. That's on him. 2. White males have moved away from him, that tells you that 2016 was anti-Hillary for many 3. His voters are passionate and hard core. I think a lot of people are ambivalent about him, although respect his passion. That's where I am. But I don't like ALL of his policies either.
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,880
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election.
I think it's a bit of both: 1. Bernie has not made inroads with the black community or women. That's on him. 2. White males have moved away from him, that tells you that 2016 was anti-Hillary for many 3. His voters are passionate and hard core. I think a lot of people are ambivalent about him, although respect his passion. That's where I am. But I don't like ALL of his policies either.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Bernie was helped by a wide field.
popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.
I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals
I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election.
I think it's a bit of both: 1. Bernie has not made inroads with the black community or women. That's on him. 2. White males have moved away from him, that tells you that 2016 was anti-Hillary for many 3. His voters are passionate and hard core. I think a lot of people are ambivalent about him, although respect his passion. That's where I am. But I don't like ALL of his policies either.
I’m a pretty hardcore supporter and I don’t like all of his policies either. To me it has really always been the view that politics is about compromise and if you can get some of the really radical stuff into the discussion that policy can change. There are some drastic long term changes that need to be made for the health of our planet and society. Granted a cranky old man that has consistently stood his ground with an all or none attitude is not the face of compromise for most. At the very least the Sanders movement has hopefully shown the Dems that it is safe to move to the left of moderate Republicans. Which is a lesson I think Democrat’s have needed to learn for quite a while.
So happy that people are rejecting Bernie. Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.
I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses. We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain. On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella. I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Hahaha so because I’m against how Bernie does things and how he goes about things I am against all social safety nets? Sounds like a bernie bro.
So happy that people are rejecting Bernie. Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.
I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses. We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain. On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella. I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Hahaha so because I’m against how Bernie does things and how he goes about things I am against all social safety nets? Sounds like a bernie bro.
Not what I said at all. Although, to be honest, your tone of derision toward Bernie's proposals on these boards is very conservative, and far less moderate than you position it.
So happy that people are rejecting Bernie. Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.
I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses. We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain. On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella. I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Hahaha so because I’m against how Bernie does things and how he goes about things I am against all social safety nets? Sounds like a bernie bro.
Not what I said at all. Although, to be honest, your tone of derision toward Bernie's proposals on these boards is very conservative, and far less moderate than you position it.
Cool. I'm sorry you lost your candidate (truly am). But I believe Bernie is not what we need. I believe several of his positions are fine and what we need, but others are terrible.
He is certainly be spot on, or very close to it, with the medical world we live in. I'm ok with any plan that ensures coverage for all, and I'm willing to do whatever needed to pay for that. I'll admit I was much slower than Bernie to get there. I do feel that Obamacare with a public option is a great idea for today. And if public option is better, people will head that way. We shall see. I'm basically for whatever Biden plan is since he has to beat trump.
So happy that people are rejecting Bernie. Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.
I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses. We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain. On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella. I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Hahaha so because I’m against how Bernie does things and how he goes about things I am against all social safety nets? Sounds like a bernie bro.
Not what I said at all. Although, to be honest, your tone of derision toward Bernie's proposals on these boards is very conservative, and far less moderate than you position it.
Cool. I'm sorry you lost your candidate (truly am). But I believe Bernie is not what we need. I believe several of his positions are fine and what we need, but others are terrible.
He is certainly be spot on, or very close to it, with the medical world we live in. I'm ok with any plan that ensures coverage for all, and I'm willing to do whatever needed to pay for that. I'll admit I was much slower than Bernie to get there. I do feel that Obamacare with a public option is a great idea for today. And if public option is better, people will head that way. We shall see. I'm basically for whatever Biden plan is since he has to beat trump.
democracy in action actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......
Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
Its actually 9.99 million votes and the 2.5 million difference (one third of sanders total vote count) would be much greater if Ohio voted and there was no virus holding down votes in IL.
Democrats screamed and yelled because Hillary "won" by 2.8 million votes amongst the entire country, while biden has roughly the same lead only accounting for roughly half of one party's primary vote.
This was a complete rejection of Sanders candidacy and actually stripped him of his perceived 2016 strength.
Curious, how big was trump's lead at this point in 2016? Did Rubio's voters get a big say in the platform?
Trump won Super Tuesday over Cruz by 35 delegates and the vote was 34% to 29%. Seems very close in comparison
Yet trumps perceived strength from that day expanded his power over voters in the following races. He never looked back and never had to grant concessions.
A couple weeks after Super Tuesday trump essentially declared himself nominee by announcing he was done with debates and the remaing debates never happened.
While biden has a much more decisive win and is being leveraged by the loser.
Trump won Super Tuesday over Cruz by 35 delegates and the vote was 34% to 29%. Seems very close in comparison
Yet trumps perceived strength from that day expanded his power over voters in the following races. He never looked back and never had to grant concessions.
A couple weeks after Super Tuesday trump essentially declared himself nominee by announcing he was done with debates and the remaing debates never happened.
While biden has a much more decisive win and is being leveraged by the loser.
This is why Democrats lose elections.
So Democrats should be more like Republicans? check. It’s looking more and more like election 2016 out there.
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We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike. All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain.
On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella.
I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it? Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?
Personally, I'm fine with anybody over Trump, but Bernie is the only candidate that is willing to fix the healthcare disaster we have in this country.
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Bernie Sanders to 'assess' presidential campaign
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/bernie-sanders-assess-2020-campaign/index.html
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Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million
thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers. To reject Sanders’ movement and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes. You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.
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1. Bernie has not made inroads with the black community or women. That's on him.
2. White males have moved away from him, that tells you that 2016 was anti-Hillary for many
3. His voters are passionate and hard core. I think a lot of people are ambivalent about him, although respect his passion. That's where I am. But I don't like ALL of his policies either.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
He is certainly be spot on, or very close to it, with the medical world we live in. I'm ok with any plan that ensures coverage for all, and I'm willing to do whatever needed to pay for that. I'll admit I was much slower than Bernie to get there. I do feel that Obamacare with a public option is a great idea for today. And if public option is better, people will head that way. We shall see. I'm basically for whatever Biden plan is since he has to beat trump.
Stop, you left wing extremist!
Its actually 9.99 million votes and the 2.5 million difference (one third of sanders total vote count) would be much greater if Ohio voted and there was no virus holding down votes in IL.
Democrats screamed and yelled because Hillary "won" by 2.8 million votes amongst the entire country, while biden has roughly the same lead only accounting for roughly half of one party's primary vote.
This was a complete rejection of Sanders candidacy and actually stripped him of his perceived 2016 strength.
Curious, how big was trump's lead at this point in 2016? Did Rubio's voters get a big say in the platform?
Yet trumps perceived strength from that day expanded his power over voters in the following races. He never looked back and never had to grant concessions.
A couple weeks after Super Tuesday trump essentially declared himself nominee by announcing he was done with debates and the remaing debates never happened.
While biden has a much more decisive win and is being leveraged by the loser.
This is why Democrats lose elections.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden