Free college under $125k? How to pay for it? Any details? without specific targeted trades or skills it's just a bad non-plan.
Seriously! I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Military, paved roads, police, fire department, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, public schools.
Who pays for all these FREE services? Where's all this money magically come from?
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I'd agree to Obama's plan. Free community college then they can transfer to Other schools..... with revamped student loan system.
CC on to State/private University is smarter financially anyway. Why pay that much for required courses anyway.
NEED to push trade/vocational education as much as they do college. Some folks just dont fit the college mold.
100% on all points except... I don't believe the gov't should ever pay for someone's entrance into a private institution. Public only.
well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Free college under $125k? How to pay for it? Any details? without specific targeted trades or skills it's just a bad non-plan.
Seriously! I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Military, paved roads, police, fire department, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, public schools.
Who pays for all these FREE services? Where's all this money magically come from?
🙃
I'd agree to Obama's plan. Free community college then they can transfer to Other schools..... with revamped student loan system.
CC on to State/private University is smarter financially anyway. Why pay that much for required courses anyway.
NEED to push trade/vocational education as much as they do college. Some folks just dont fit the college mold.
100% on all points except... I don't believe the gov't should ever pay for someone's entrance into a private institution. Public only.
well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
This is fantastic. It's seeming more and more like Sanders knows he's not going to win, but wants to get commitments from the Biden campaign to include more progressive policies before he drops out. This is the right time to use this leverage, and arguably the USA will never be more receptive of M4A than they would be right now.
Agree..Sanders knows he cant win but is putting the screws to Biden to get his ideas in there.
......some revolution......
Now will Bernie drop out and support Biden finally?
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Free college under $125k? How to pay for it? Any details? without specific targeted trades or skills it's just a bad non-plan.
Seriously! I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Military, paved roads, police, fire department, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, public schools.
Who pays for all these FREE services? Where's all this money magically come from?
🙃
I'd agree to Obama's plan. Free community college then they can transfer to Other schools..... with revamped student loan system.
CC on to State/private University is smarter financially anyway. Why pay that much for required courses anyway.
NEED to push trade/vocational education as much as they do college. Some folks just dont fit the college mold.
100% on all points except... I don't believe the gov't should ever pay for someone's entrance into a private institution. Public only.
well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
So is Biden advocating only 2 years of education?
not to my knowlege. You'll note I initially said I liked what Obama had in mind. Not thats what Joe would do
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Free college under $125k? How to pay for it? Any details? without specific targeted trades or skills it's just a bad non-plan.
Seriously! I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Military, paved roads, police, fire department, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, public schools.
Who pays for all these FREE services? Where's all this money magically come from?
🙃
I'd agree to Obama's plan. Free community college then they can transfer to Other schools..... with revamped student loan system.
CC on to State/private University is smarter financially anyway. Why pay that much for required courses anyway.
NEED to push trade/vocational education as much as they do college. Some folks just dont fit the college mold.
100% on all points except... I don't believe the gov't should ever pay for someone's entrance into a private institution. Public only.
well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
So is Biden advocating only 2 years of education?
not to my knowlege. You'll note I initially said I liked what Obama had in mind. Not thats what Joe would do
The point I was trying to make was that I'm okay with free education if: 1. There's a income cut 2. If for a four year degree, the first two years are community and the last two are public, not private institutions.
Biden is alive on a bit of a technicality. It’s an important choice (assuming he has a chance to beat God’s Chosen One). For me Warren is the one most ready to be president. Not to mention a potential draw for the Bernie Bros.
Technicality? What does that mean?
He’s a walking corpse. I think both running mates are more like than normal to become President in less than four years.
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Biden is alive on a bit of a technicality. It’s an important choice (assuming he has a chance to beat God’s Chosen One). For me Warren is the one most ready to be president. Not to mention a potential draw for the Bernie Bros.
Technicality? What does that mean?
He’s a walking corpse. I think both running mates are more like than normal to become President in less than four years.
Yeah I think Biden's running-mate might be the most scrutinized in history...just based on his age.
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I was all for Sanders fighting to the end, and I really dislike the notion of people suggesting he should just get out of Biden's way and concede. But...with this pandemic making going out to vote risky, the delegate math (and polls of upcoming primaries) firmly in Biden's favor, and Biden making concessions that he'd be willing to adopt some of Sanders' policies, it might be the right time for him to drop out.
Free college under $125k? How to pay for it? Any details? without specific targeted trades or skills it's just a bad non-plan.
Seriously! I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Military, paved roads, police, fire department, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, public schools.
Who pays for all these FREE services? Where's all this money magically come from?
🙃
I'd agree to Obama's plan. Free community college then they can transfer to Other schools..... with revamped student loan system.
CC on to State/private University is smarter financially anyway. Why pay that much for required courses anyway.
NEED to push trade/vocational education as much as they do college. Some folks just dont fit the college mold.
100% on all points except... I don't believe the gov't should ever pay for someone's entrance into a private institution. Public only.
well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
So is Biden advocating only 2 years of education?
not to my knowlege. You'll note I initially said I liked what Obama had in mind. Not thats what Joe would do
The point I was trying to make was that I'm okay with free education if: 1. There's a income cut 2. If for a four year degree, the first two years are community and the last two are public, not private institutions.
There should be some requirements for what type of degrees are included
I was all for Sanders fighting to the end, and I really dislike the notion of people suggesting he should just get out of Biden's way and concede. But...with this pandemic making going out to vote risky, the delegate math (and polls of upcoming primaries) firmly in Biden's favor, and Biden making concessions that he'd be willing to adopt some of Sanders' policies, it might be the right time for him to drop out.
Plus he continues to fund raise off people that can ill afford it.
Biden is alive on a bit of a technicality. It’s an important choice (assuming he has a chance to beat God’s Chosen One). For me Warren is the one most ready to be president. Not to mention a potential draw for the Bernie Bros.
Technicality? What does that mean?
He’s a walking corpse. I think both running mates are more like than normal to become President in less than four years.
We must have different definitions of 'technicality'. Your statement is also wrong, considering all of the health data that Biden has released.
no word yet here if its been ordered by a judge. I dont know why he is taking it to court when the SOS could order it delayed. If falls under that office.
unless it was to guard against a suit by one of the campaigns who I doubt would protest
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
no word yet here if its been ordered by a judge. I dont know why he is taking it to court when the SOS could order it delayed. If falls under that office.
unless it was to guard against a suit by one of the campaigns who I doubt would protest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought primaries fall within the jurisdiction of the party exclusively? If that's true, does a court of law even have any influence over this?
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no word yet here if its been ordered by a judge. I dont know why he is taking it to court when the SOS could order it delayed. If falls under that office.
unless it was to guard against a suit by one of the campaigns who I doubt would protest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought primaries fall within the jurisdiction of the party exclusively? If that's true, does a court of law even have any influence over this?
There are more things on the ballet then the primary
no word yet here if its been ordered by a judge. I dont know why he is taking it to court when the SOS could order it delayed. If falls under that office.
unless it was to guard against a suit by one of the campaigns who I doubt would protest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought primaries fall within the jurisdiction of the party exclusively? If that's true, does a court of law even have any influence over this?
They are facilitated by the Secretary of State, generally.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I understand the need but I do not like the precedent being set by delaying elections.
Imagine if it was November and trump was doing just that
An interesting counter to that would be for pelosi to say fine, your term is over. Step aside.
I've been saying for awhile that it is less than 100% we will even have an election in the fall. Sounds crazy but so does almost every other thing Trump has done.
no word yet here if its been ordered by a judge. I dont know why he is taking it to court when the SOS could order it delayed. If falls under that office.
unless it was to guard against a suit by one of the campaigns who I doubt would protest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought primaries fall within the jurisdiction of the party exclusively? If that's true, does a court of law even have any influence over this?
They are facilitated by the Secretary of State, generally.
right. the poll workers are all volunteers. Trained by the various counties following state guidelines. County owns the machines. State would be liable if any harm came to the volunteers.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I thought we were all Democrats. This is very confusing.
We?
I'm not a democrat. I don't vote in the States.
Okay so maybe your use of 'side' doesn't work in the States. Either way, Bernie continues to put the elderly and high risk people at risk with his futile campaign, and he also is fundraising on the backs of people that he claims are working class. It's amazing how successful Biden has been with no money. Maybe he's really the man of the people after all.
I thought we were all Democrats. This is very confusing.
We?
I'm not a democrat. I don't vote in the States.
Okay so maybe your use of 'side' doesn't work in the States. Either way, Bernie continues to put the elderly and high risk people at risk with his futile campaign, and he also is fundraising on the backs of people that he claims are working class. It's amazing how successful Biden has been with no money. Maybe he's really the man of the people after all.
I don't trust either side enough to support one, but Biden is the man of his party. Bernie got axed by the DNC in 2016 and it is happening again. Interestingly enough people still have faith in this system...
I thought we were all Democrats. This is very confusing.
We?
I'm not a democrat. I don't vote in the States.
Okay so maybe your use of 'side' doesn't work in the States. Either way, Bernie continues to put the elderly and high risk people at risk with his futile campaign, and he also is fundraising on the backs of people that he claims are working class. It's amazing how successful Biden has been with no money. Maybe he's really the man of the people after all.
No need for money when you got the...
OBAMA E S T A B L I S H M E N T
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well the point was for the "higher" education , that's on the student be it a State institution or a private one. the community colleges can be publically funded.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Now will Bernie drop out and support Biden finally?
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1. There's a income cut
2. If for a four year degree, the first two years are community and the last two are public, not private institutions.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Imagine if it was November and trump was doing just that
An interesting counter to that would be for pelosi to say fine, your term is over. Step aside.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm not a democrat. I don't vote in the States.
I'm The Left Party:
Or the Green Party:
Or Feminist Iniative:
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
OBAMA E S T A B L I S H M E N T
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