The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Warren says she's going to get rid of the Electoral College for her second term. Prez will be elected by direct vote. 
    Lol...that’s all I have to say about that.
    does it or does it not make sense, regardless if you think it can/will be done?
    Is Liz saying she's against it only,  or did she actually say she will get it done? If the latter, that's delusional.  How do you get 2/3 of the states' senators or state legislatures vote to reduce their own power?  Granted some will increase in power but not enough to get the votes. 
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-town-hall-electoral-college.html

    she eyes a constitutional amendment. 
    Ok.  She supports it.  I thought she was saying saying she was going to get it done.  That's over committing. 
    she said, and I quote "I will be the last president voted in by the EC". To me that's getting it done. 
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  • dankind said:
    AG Harris
    Why would Donald Trump want Kamala Harris to be his AG?
    exactly what i was thinking. because there is one whole party and 40% of the population that looks the other way on corruption like we have never seen in this country, trump is going to win.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dankind said:
    AG Harris
    Why would Donald Trump want Kamala Harris to be his AG?
    exactly what i was thinking. because there is one whole party and 40% of the population that looks the other way on corruption like we have never seen in this country, trump is going to win.
    I obviously meant if the democrats won the election. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Warren says she's going to get rid of the Electoral College for her second term. Prez will be elected by direct vote. 
    Lol...that’s all I have to say about that.
    does it or does it not make sense, regardless if you think it can/will be done?
    Is Liz saying she's against it only,  or did she actually say she will get it done? If the latter, that's delusional.  How do you get 2/3 of the states' senators or state legislatures vote to reduce their own power?  Granted some will increase in power but not enough to get the votes. 
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-town-hall-electoral-college.html

    she eyes a constitutional amendment. 
    Ok.  She supports it.  I thought she was saying saying she was going to get it done.  That's over committing. 
    she said, and I quote "I will be the last president voted in by the EC". To me that's getting it done. 
    I didn't see that quote.  Silly.  
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited December 2019
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Kamala Harris just dropped out.....

    Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race https://n.pr/2P7koyR
    Guess I can sit out the primary as well as the general this year. 
    This illustrates why I envy the right.  They're united (they even had an event).  Nobody says "I'll only vote for one candidate in the general otherwise I am sitting out." They all just suck it up and vote for Trump.
    I know, right? Sucks how some of us are capable of independent thought.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    edited December 2019
    AG Harris
    Her and Joe can take the reefer off the streets that has been menacing the youth.  Like crimefighters. 
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138

    that has to be photoshopped, right?
  • Jason P said:

    that has to be photoshopped, right?
    no, but it looks much worse than the actual video. 

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jason P said:

    that has to be photoshopped, right?
    no, but it looks much worse than the actual video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=Or1WvZ2CxXo&feature=emb_logo
    Well, at least it was his wife.  I imagine she was like "WTF are you doing!" as soon as they got back to the malarkey bus.
  • Jason P said:
    Jason P said:

    that has to be photoshopped, right?
    no, but it looks much worse than the actual video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=Or1WvZ2CxXo&feature=emb_logo
    Well, at least it was his wife.  I imagine she was like "WTF are you doing!" as soon as they got back to the malarkey bus.
    the malarkey bus. LMAO
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  • i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dankind said:
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Kamala Harris just dropped out.....

    Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race https://n.pr/2P7koyR
    Guess I can sit out the primary as well as the general this year. 
    This illustrates why I envy the right.  They're united (they even had an event).  Nobody says "I'll only vote for one candidate in the general otherwise I am sitting out." They all just suck it up and vote for Trump.
    I know, right? Sucks how some of us are capable of independent thought.
    "I reject reality and substitute my own!"

    Independent thought not necessarily mean coherent 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Kamala Harris just dropped out.....

    Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race https://n.pr/2P7koyR
    Guess I can sit out the primary as well as the general this year. 
    This illustrates why I envy the right.  They're united (they even had an event).  Nobody says "I'll only vote for one candidate in the general otherwise I am sitting out." They all just suck it up and vote for Trump.
    I know, right? Sucks how some of us are capable of independent thought.
    "I reject reality and substitute my own!"

    Independent thought not necessarily mean coherent 
    Neat. 
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  • mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,424
    mrussel1 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 
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  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    I really, really take issue with ageist attitudes, and I have always been a big fan . . . but for real, even I am beginning to think Biden is no longer working with a full deck. It's embarrassing to watch, even when he's not in the middle of a gaffe. Listening to him talk, I sense that he's really not in touch with the current world. I just can't support him in the primary.

    I'm still hoping Amy Klobuchar breaks out of the pack soon. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    mrussel1 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 
    Don't put your hangups on him.  
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    mrussel1 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 


    Seriously? 

    Joe ever walk into a locker room full of naked teenagers? 

    Joe ever brag about grabbing and kissing without consent? 

    Joe ever cheat on his wife with a porn star? 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,954
    edited December 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,479
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


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  • mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


    we JUST had that person Brian......
    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 3 years seems so long ago.
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  • This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
    That's an old clip, but I'm sure there are many more.

    Biden is not the guy to beat Trump like a drum.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    dignin said:
    This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
    That's an old clip, but I'm sure there are many more.

    Biden is not the guy to beat Trump like a drum.
    Then find that person.  It ain't Warren.  I hope it's Pete, but I fear he's too nice.  I want to see him get amped.  
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Lol creepy Joe...just plain creepy
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