The Democratic Presidential Debates

Hi!

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

mcgruff10

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

PJ_Soul

Hi! said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

Okay. I'm specifically upset about the sexism.

Jason P

I'm not seeing much coverage of the candidates in the last month.  Is everyone turtling while the trump stuff goes on and on?

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

Hi! said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

Okay. I'm specifically upset about the sexism.

I don’t like her because I hate her ideas but I do understand your concern.  

mrussel1

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Hi!

PJ_Soul said:

Hi! said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

Okay. I'm specifically upset about the sexism.

Yeah, people suck. I also understand your concern. I’m sure I have a little sexism in myself, but I would never not vote for someone based on gender. IDK, Hillary won nomination and got more votes for president, so while sexism will always be a problem, I don’t know that this is the exact reason Warren will or won’t be successful.

mcgruff10

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

mrussel1

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

mcgruff10

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

Obviously none of them (although I felt Obama did for some reason).   Being so close to nyc I would read about Bloomberg everyday in the news and quickly disliked him.  

Hi!

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

Bloomberg knows you don’t need ID for groceries?

mrussel1

Hi! said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

Bloomberg knows you don’t need ID for groceries?

I know.. that's funny.  But I guess my point is, none of these candidates ever know what it's like for true working Americans.   So let's not kid ourselves.  Regarding Bloomberg personally, I like that he's business friendly and socially liberal.  That's right up my alley.  I don't have a strong personal opinion of him, but I don't live in metro NYC either.  He's not going to do the early states.  It looks like he's waiting to see how much traction Warren truly gets, and then may decide to parachute in.  He certainly has the money and political apparatus to do such a thing.  He also has extensive ties to mayors across the country.  You can't underestimate the power of those relationships. 

mrussel1

PJ_Soul said:

Hi! said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

Okay. I'm specifically upset about the sexism.

From the story.. 

At the same time, 41 percent of the voters who support Mr. Biden but not Ms. Warren say they agree with the statement that most of the women who run for president “just aren’t that likable,” likely bolstering concerns among some Democrats that sexism could be a burden on her candidacy.

What's sad is if you look at the crosstabs, Warren's sexism problem includes women voters.  They appear to be almost as likely to dislike her for being a woman as a man.  

Hi!

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

Bloomberg knows you don’t need ID for groceries?

I know.. that's funny.  But I guess my point is, none of these candidates ever know what it's like for true working Americans.   So let's not kid ourselves.  Regarding Bloomberg personally, I like that he's business friendly and socially liberal.  That's right up my alley.  I don't have a strong personal opinion of him, but I don't live in metro NYC either.  He's not going to do the early states.  It looks like he's waiting to see how much traction Warren truly gets, and then may decide to parachute in.  He certainly has the money and political apparatus to do such a thing.  He also has extensive ties to mayors across the country.  You can't underestimate the power of those relationships. 

Yeah, IDK. Kinda my feelings, really. Seems like a reasonable human being, maybe a touch elitist. I think he ran window air conditioners in is huge Suburbans when he was mayor  because it was against law to keep cars running, lol. If you’re  the Biden campaign, bet you don’t like someone messing with you’re southern strategy. 

dignin

Pretty much.

dignin

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Hi! said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Troubling news.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html#click=https://t.co/lOTo3Vx8cc

In the daily podcast they talked about how voters in these swing states take issue with the possibility of a woman president.

There’s just something about her that I just don’t like,” she said. “I just don’t feel like she’s a genuine candidate. I find her body language to be very off-putting. She’s very cold. She’s basically a Hillary Clinton clone.”

As for female presidential candidates in general, she said, “They’re super unlikable.”

Troubling indeed. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that deep-seated sexism would be a problem for Warren, and it makes me so mad I don't even what to address it.

All the candidates have their issues with likability or electability. Biden’s ageism, homophobia against Pete ect. She ain’t out of it yet and is polling well against Trump in other polls. 

Okay. I'm specifically upset about the sexism.

From the story.. 

At the same time, 41 percent of the voters who support Mr. Biden but not Ms. Warren say they agree with the statement that most of the women who run for president “just aren’t that likable,” likely bolstering concerns among some Democrats that sexism could be a burden on her candidacy.

What's sad is if you look at the crosstabs, Warren's sexism problem includes women voters.  They appear to be almost as likely to dislike her for being a woman as a man.  

It's very disappointing.

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

darwinstheory said:

Yeah. That's what we need. Just 1 more candidate to share the spotlight. 

I loathe Bloomberg.  Please just go away.  

Why do you hate him? Is it the gun control issue?

Yes and he was a terrible mayor imo.  We need another guy in his late 70's running?  And yet another billionaire that has no clue what real life is like for the majority of america.  

Which candidate knows what life is like for a majority of Americans?  

Bloomberg knows you don’t need ID for groceries?

I know.. that's funny.  But I guess my point is, none of these candidates ever know what it's like for true working Americans.   So let's not kid ourselves.  Regarding Bloomberg personally, I like that he's business friendly and socially liberal.  That's right up my alley.  I don't have a strong personal opinion of him, but I don't live in metro NYC either.  He's not going to do the early states.  It looks like he's waiting to see how much traction Warren truly gets, and then may decide to parachute in.  He certainly has the money and political apparatus to do such a thing.  He also has extensive ties to mayors across the country.  You can't underestimate the power of those relationships. 

as long as money is the main driver of how the top candidates are selected, the common man will never be adequately represented. 

mrussel1

dignin said:

Pretty much.

What does that even mean? Is he saying that they shouldn't run for president and only financially support a candidate who they disagree with on key policies? And if they don't then everything is their fault? If that is the point then that's outrageously ridiculous. 

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

Pretty much.

What does that even mean? Is he saying that they shouldn't run for president and only financially support a candidate who they disagree with on key policies? And if they don't then everything is their fault? If that is the point then that's outrageously ridiculous. 

I think he is saying they should be blitzing the airways with anti-trump ads. thats something they can readily afford. yet I dont recall seeing any from a pac associated with them or from them as citizens....

2, because they have that lind of casj, they are in their way subverting the party system. both entered very late(in relative terms) this cycle.

3. I think Bloomberg is more effective shifting the needle on guns with his group.

Hi!

Steyer been running anti trump ads since day one. I can see his point with Bloomberg, I don’t like it,