The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    It’s awesome having friends at the caucus and getting some reporting 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    Yang ain’t doing well. And apparently at the place a friend is at they won’t go to another candidate. So dumb. Bernie-esque douchebagery
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    Yang ain’t doing well. And apparently at the place a friend is at they won’t go to another candidate. So dumb. Bernie-esque douchebagery
    Who else isn’t viable at the location?  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I really don't like the caucus.  It favors a class of people and not connected at all with how we vote.  I wish they would scrap it.


    Slightly off topic, Why do Iowans and New Hampshirites get 8 months of undivided attention from the candidates and the rest of the country not? 
    That too.  What is it..8 electoral votes?  I don't even know but it's all silliness. 
    I've never understood the interest in Iowa. I think Iowa has only picked the president 1 time on the Dem side since I've paid attention (since the 80's). They do a mostly decent job of picking who may end up the Dem nominee, but rarely does the winner in Iowa on the Dem side become president. Other than a little momentum going into NH, I don't understand why Iowa is interesting at all (except of course to Iowans). Bill Clinton didn't need Iowa. Hillary got Iowa. A small, insignificant state garners lots of attention for reasons unknown aside from being first.  If I controlled the party I'd make an important state (# of EC votes, total population) the first party caucus or primary, and get that field narrowed down in a hurry.

    I interpret that as it’s difficult to unseat an incumbent president. Usually the party with caucuses or primaries is the one challenging the president, like this year. But I recent history, 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    what dreams said:
    http://www.iowapbs.org/iowapathways/artifact/history-iowa-caucus
    Reminds me of a riddle a student shared with me this morning:  If you're in a race, and you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
    It makes no difference to me that Iowa is first. Someone has to be. As soon as a different state is picked, people in the other 49 will complain that state doesn't represent America either.

    But it is the same someone every four years. Why do Iowans get to have so much attention from the candidates? Is it in the constitution?

    why do they get to meet the candidates? I never met a candidate. Why do they get to have a coffee with the candidates? I never had a cup of coffee with the candidates. The candidates run into my state for about five minutes, while they are campaigning in many other states at the same time.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    Yang ain’t doing well. And apparently at the place a friend is at they won’t go to another candidate. So dumb. Bernie-esque douchebagery
    I can empathize with "Yang or bust"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    Yang ain’t doing well. And apparently at the place a friend is at they won’t go to another candidate. So dumb. Bernie-esque douchebagery

    Part of the problem is, Americans are slow to change and have a hard time seeing outside the box.  I've probably related this story before, but in the first hour of the first day of my first college level Education class the first thing the Prof in that class said to us was, "I'm sure many of you are sitting there thinking about how great it will be when you graduate and you go on to receive your teaching credential but I need to tell you, education in America is an institution and institutions in America are very slow to change," and he really emphasized those last four words.

    Yang has been hoping to do well in Iowa but has sounded more confident about New Hampshire.  I'm still hoping.  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    Chadwick would have a helluva post about this delay...
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    russians?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    the anticipated pre-poll canceled.  now the results postponed. 
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-breakdown-in-iowa-casts-a-spotlight-on-the-caucus-system/2020/02/03/86f51282-45f4-11ea-8124-0ca81effcdfb_story.html

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-breakdown-in-iowa-casts-a-spotlight-on-the-caucus-system/2020/02/03/86f51282-45f4-11ea-8124-0ca81effcdfb_story.html

    Stupid system
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-breakdown-in-iowa-casts-a-spotlight-on-the-caucus-system/2020/02/03/86f51282-45f4-11ea-8124-0ca81effcdfb_story.html

    Stupid system
    they forget how to use the phone?
    to me this should require a change in who is first. not the first time theres an issue.

    new system for reporting. how many times was it tested, etc....

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited February 2020
    Gee, I wonder why shit like this never happened back in the first years I was eligible to vote?

    DOH!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    This is sure to wind up people in the rightwingosphere.....


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited February 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    For those scoring at home,  here's how it stands.  Looks to be a tight one. 


    Hmmmmmmmm. Deceptively edited out Yang at 100%....

    LOL, Yang for the win!
    Yang ain’t doing well. And apparently at the place a friend is at they won’t go to another candidate. So dumb. Bernie-esque douchebagery
    Less Hillary-people voted for Obama, than Bernie-buddies voted for Hillary.

    Fabricated narrative. Whatever polls say. Bernie-besties value democracy. Almost too much. Or maybe not. And you are correct.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    This better be the last Iowa Caucus, and they better not go first anymore

    this is a complete  embarrassment to the Democratic Party and gives  trump cannon fodder 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    Lerxst1992 said:
    This better be the last Iowa Caucus, and they better not go first anymore

    this is a complete  embarrassment to the Democratic Party and gives  trump cannon fodder 
    agree. fuck NH too. super tuesday first.  
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